The calculus when nuclear armed states are involved is different. I don't believe he would, but we absolutely should make sure that he would not, by rearming and redeploying. That NATO border needs to become a fortress. Nothing like an expensive high tech arms race to force Russia to see sense.
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It's silly though. If you sentence someone for a crime before they commit it, there is no longer anything to stop them from committing it anyway.
Winning the last few wars will give him misplaced confidence.
Also, let's face it, he's clearly not one for rational thought.
CNN caring about the important stuff and airing the 26th doctor interview about the Queen covid , who repeat exactly the same thing as 25th interview.
Yes maybe. It was more of a cheap joke.
Still belive it would send some kind of message and that they would be very carefull threading those ways.
It means to me that the US expect those areas to fall to the Russians.
Seriously struggling as to why people aren’t getting this.
Those wars were not at all that easy and without casualties one would think btw.
I don’t think he’s like that though. As much as I dislike him, (wasn’t always like that) I don’t see him doing rash shit. He’s very calculated.
Fair enough. Cheers. Still a significant chunk there.
I hope Russia get hit with a semiconductor sanction. Graphics cards for all the nerds in the West!
Invading Ukraine and stealing Crimea turned NATO support in Ukraine from a small minority (15-20%) to part of their constitution with 60% support. Not exactly calculating from someone trying to maintain control over Ukraine.
Putin's wars have gone quite well though. Objectives achieved in Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine and Syria up to now, seemingly with minimal fuss or opposition at home.
That seems to only talk about gas. Russia are also a large supplier of coal. Recently, Europe has been asking for more, showing their reliance even further. Not a good position for Europe.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ussia-for-more-coal-is-set-for-disappointment
That speech was batshit , rash doesn't even begin to describe it. It's hard to walk back from this.
'seemingly' yes
I’m open to correction. Is there some undercurrent of discontent in Russia with how those wars have gone?
You have a lot of faith for a man standing on the edge of madness...
I only hope you are right.
I don’t think he’s rash. The build up to this was years in the making. Russian troops were amassing near Ukrainian borders for the past year. Furthermore, I think he had envisioned different eventualities from this crisis which leads me to believe that he’s in fact a very calculated individual. Total psychopath but a calculated one.
This rambling that he did, that would have struck with a lot of people in Ukraine and Russia. That wasn’t a message to the west imo.
So US/UK intelligence was right...?
Thanks. After my post I saw this on twitter. Seems in line with the article (and my glib paraphrase)
30 minutes ago you were aghast at the notion that the west knowingly armed neo-Nazis for years. Now you are dismissing very mainstream sources and asking who cares.
Patriotism is brain rot.
You have 247 posts in this thread. Hilarious you haven't heard of this.
A lot of conscripts were killed in the earlier adventures , that wasn't taken well let's say. But I am not over there, it's what I heard.
Being calculated in the past doesn't mean he isn't capable of misinterpretation or overstepping in the future. He is clearly past the point of no return with this latest land grab and will never be accepted back as a statesman who can be negotiated with.
Shhhh…
I guess that could be viewed from his perspective as a forgone conclusion, in terms of NATO agenda, in the long term. So he decided action now is better than inaction later. Anyway, I don’t see him as a Trump type, mad man whom wants to blow shit.
They are not mainstream sources, and I am not dismissing them. I said even if this was removed , it was later reinstated. And I am not American ffs.
Depends which intel you mean. Those reports that said Putin ordered a full scale invasion of Ukraine...then no, not yet.
Am I the only one immature enough to think of Team America whenever I hear people cite intelligence?
And protect monuments. Why is Unesco not involved?
Yes.
The first casualty of war is the truth.
I’m comfortable with who I am.
I don’t see it as a restoration of a Soviet empire - he explicitly rejected the Soviet legacy tonight. It’s pre-Soviet imperial Russia he is invoking.
Agreed. But really mate can you see him doing something as stupid as trying to attack a Baltic state? I just can’t see it. Annexing Belarus and whole of Ukraine east of Dnieper — I can see that happening before a picking a fight with a NATO member.
Just listening to it now, he does appear to have a couple of sly digs at communism too.
You are living in a different world. The Jerusalem Post and the Nation are both very mainstream sources.
* in blood, but American in taste, in opinions
