Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

sglowrider said:
I don't think they need to be told that the US is helping them. I am sure they already know it. But for it to leak out publically, if I was Russian I would be more pissed off. It reinforces the Putin narrative that they are already in WW3 and fighting NATO. And that opens up a whole can of worms.
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You think news like this would piss off Russian Generals?

Possible I suppose but you don't think it would make them wary of going to Ukraine or fear for their safety if they did?

There must be a reason that US Intelligence are happy for that information to be made public.
 
sglowrider said:
I don't think they need to be told that the US is helping them. I am sure they already know it. But for it to leak out publically, if I was Russian I would be more pissed off. It reinforces the Putin narrative that they are already in WW3 and fighting NATO. And that opens up a whole can of worms.
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It's a statement of contempt for Russian threats, that's what it is. The message probably isn't for Putin but his enablers.
 
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Carolina Red said:
I’d be shocked if anyone in Russia was shocked that we are giving that kinda info to Ukraine.
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The fact the US is willing to say it is the real message. They don't think there's anything Russia can or will do about it. It's about power, and saying that if you send your generals to Ukraine, we'll know and they will be killed.
 
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Sir Matt said:
I wish these officials would shut the hell up. There's no reason to tell anyone this level of detail.
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US and UK publicly announced we would aid with all intelligence we could when the war started m. I don’t know if now it’s all of NATO combined but suffice to say from day 1 this has been the case.
 
the hea said:
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Lukashenka definitely doesn't plan to go down with Putin's sinking ship.

I read somewhere that Lukashenka is actually much smarter than Putin, but deliberately plays at being stupid at times in order to get away with certain things. For example, the Russian invasion map/plan that he "stupidly" showed on camera.
 
Everything about this campaign from bumbling Putin stooges like Lukashenko to over a dozen Russian Generals getting clipped in the field to random Russian soldiers blundering their way through South/East Ukraine, has been a total disaster. I can't imagine any future war under which the Russian military will viewed as anything more than a self-reinforcing parody with nukes.
 
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Sir Matt said:
I wish these officials would shut the hell up. There's no reason to tell anyone this level of detail.
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There's a pretty good chance it was deliberately leaked to send a message to mid-tier Russian military leaders that they could die at any time if they enter Ukraine, as well as to seniors like Gerasimov, that they will remain safe should they try to move on Putin.
 
4bars said:
I have the feeling that even with all the news that the UA army is detroying this and that and nothing from the RA, and all the positive and no negative, when i see maps and comments i only see gains from the RA and barely gains for the UA besides the botch attempt in kiyv.

What is the real developement of the war? Is RA winning? The UA? Or there is stalling positions?
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At this point it seems like there's a stalemate on Donbas & Russia seems to have abandoned their offences on Kiyv, Chernigov etc. And the time in this case obviously works in Ukraine's favour. Russia keeps shelling Ukraine with bombs though.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I read somewhere that Lukashenka is actually much smarter than Putin, but deliberately plays at being stupid at times in order to get away with certain things. For example, the Russian invasion map/plan that he "stupidly" showed on camera.
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He's a slick politician without any real affiliations to anyone but himself but he's not smart.
 
sglowrider said:
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Huh, I always thought it was “walk softly”.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Lukashenka definitely doesn't plan to go down with Putin's sinking ship.

I read somewhere that Lukashenka is actually much smarter than Putin, but deliberately plays at being stupid at times in order to get away with certain things. For example, the Russian invasion map/plan that he "stupidly" showed on camera.
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Probably in this thread:

Absolutely worth reading
 
GlastonSpur said:
Lukashenka definitely doesn't plan to go down with Putin's sinking ship.

I read somewhere that Lukashenka is actually much smarter than Putin, but deliberately plays at being stupid at times in order to get away with certain things. For example, the Russian invasion map/plan that he "stupidly" showed on camera.
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Isn't he completely boned without Putin's support though? I thought he burnt all the bridges with everyone else in 2020.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Lukashenka definitely doesn't plan to go down with Putin's sinking ship.

I read somewhere that Lukashenka is actually much smarter than Putin, but deliberately plays at being stupid at times in order to get away with certain things. For example, the Russian invasion map/plan that he "stupidly" showed on camera.
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This is an interesting theory and not as crazy as it may sound initially. Would explain a lot of things that have been perplexing with regards to Belarus' involvement (or lack of it to some degree) in the current war.
 
sport2793 said:
This is an interesting theory and not as crazy as it may sound initially. Would explain a lot of things that have been perplexing with regards to Belarus' involvement (or lack of it to some degree) in the current war.
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600 missiles have been fired from Belarus towards Ukraine since the invasion has begun. World needs to sanction his regime to the ground.
 
Oly Francis said:
It's pretty hard to imagine the amount of intel the US gets either from the air or with undercover operators. It seems they pretty much know where everybody is and when.
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US intelligence has been absolutely incredible. I do wonder what part of it was signals intel, imagery intel and human intel.
 
The Firestarter said:
This conflict certainly raised the standing of the US IC, after Iraq it really had gotten a very bad rep.
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It's different situations though, sneaking US operators in Russia has pretty been a national sport since the 50's. And since there's far less turnover at the top of the state, it's easier to keep people in place for a while.
 
I'm really surprised by all the reports about international and foremost US intelligence.

It seems like not only the Russian weapons, equipment and strategies are far worse than expected, but also their capabilities regarding communication and information technology.
With all the reports about (successful) Russian cyber attacks in recent years I would've guessed that they could compete with the US in that regard.
 
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