TMDaines
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What the hell happened here? You have the biggest Republican nutters and the supposedly progressive “The Squad”.
While I agree the chances are remote, there is a wildcard in all of this and that is Putin and his physical and mental health.
People who are in power for decades unchallenged, have a tendency to feel untouchable. This combined with whisperings that he's in ill health, give me little confidence that the Russian administration will act rationally should their campaign in Ukraine continue to stall and falter.
What the hell happened here? You have the biggest Republican nutters and the supposedly progressive “The Squad”.
What the hell happened here? You have the biggest Republican nutters and the supposedly progressive “The Squad”.
What the hell happened here? You have the biggest Republican nutters and the supposedly progressive “The Squad”.
How would the West always know when a tactical nuke is deployed and made ready to fire? How do you know that the first knowledge of it won't come until the thing detonates?
And how do you know that Putin isn't willing to gamble on a belief that the West won't fire a nuke in return for fear of the consequences? And how do you know that the Russian officers involved in the nuclear launch sequence won't be hard-core and brainwashed nationalists who - perhaps like Putin - might either believe that the West won't retaliate, or else that a nuclear war is winnable?
I'm genuinely wondering how these spies managed to kill British citizens in the UK.
What the hell happened here? You have the biggest Republican nutters and the supposedly progressive “The Squad”.
Have you looked into it? I'd bet my hat there is rational reasoning.
I thought Mr. Vexler was saying Putin was interested in using the increased threat of nuclear war to influence the thinking of the West. Not that he thinks he'll launch any.
A decent part of western leftist/progressive organisations and their electorate have been absolutely disgusting since the start of the invasion. There is also a possibility that those politicians are just catching up to them.Have you looked into it? I'd bet my hat there is rational reasoning.
Does anyone know, or can take an educated guess, as to why they voted as they did? I’m coming from a position of generally respecting and trusting those guys, so I’m inclined to think there is an underlying reason which isn’t as reductive as simply some people on the left downplaying Stalin’s actions etc.
Horseshoe theory. The radical left and right are closer together than mid left/right.
We see this in many countries, it is not specific to the US.
Cool story and everything but none of “The Squad” are radical left or even close to it. They’re all centrists by anything other than the American Overton window so applying political theory that is based on the traditional Left/Right spectrum is beyond daft. They’re all a million miles away from Communists.It's a correct theory in my view. Both the radical right and left don't really want or believe in democracy - what they want is an authoritarian government that will rule by decree in ways that favour their prejudices. This is why it's always essential to hold together the centre ground - ranging from centre-left to centre-right - as a political constituency. Otherwise ....
“Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity …”
The Second Coming, by W. B. Yeats
US is delivering, quite a lot of cargo flight activity:
Denmark is also promising armoured vehicles etc:
Does anyone know, or can take an educated guess, as to why they voted as they did? I’m coming from a position of generally respecting and trusting those guys, so I’m inclined to think there is an underlying reason which isn’t as reductive as simply some people on the left downplaying Stalin’s actions etc.
A decent part of western leftist/progressive organisations and their electorate have been absolutely disgusting since the start of the invasion. There is also a possibility that those politicians are just catching up to them.
Cool story and everything but none of “The Squad” are radical left or even close to it. They’re all centrists by anything other than the American Overton window so applying political theory that is based on the traditional Left/Right spectrum is beyond daft. They’re all a million miles away from Communists.
No but your post is surely on the assumption that they are.Fine, but then I haven't said that they are radical left (in the sense of being as extreme as the alt-right).
They are against sanctions generally speaking due to the reasons you listed, unexpected long-term ramifications, and in other cases where they mostly end up hurting the common people and not the elite they were targeted at.I've seen a suggestion that it could be because of extensive court battles and legal costs expected as a result of such an action. Seizing yachts for example could prove more costly in the long run if they can't prove without doubt a certain Oligarch has a direct connection to the events unfolding in Ukraine.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/09/rus...his-is-what-happens-after-theyre-seized-.html
I've not seen what is in the bill though, it is completely common practise in the US for unrelated things to be attached on to bills that stop certain people voting for it just so it can be hung over their head for years "look everyone, they didn't vote for this".
American media has been asleep, but best I’ve seen is suggestion that they want a food aid policy for those countries likely to be affected by lack of Ukrainian harvest. Doesn’t add up.Have you looked into it? I'd bet my hat there is rational reasoning.
It's a correct theory in my view. Both the radical right and left don't really want or believe in democracy - what they want is an authoritarian government that will rule by decree in ways that favour their prejudices. This is why it's always essential to hold together the centre ground - ranging from centre-left to centre-right - as a political constituency. Otherwise ....
“Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity …”
The Second Coming, by W. B. Yeats
How long ago did he do that? And why? Completely missed that one.The second Putin recognized Kosovo he lost any love he had here in Serbia.
How long ago did he do that? And why? Completely missed that one.
Thanks. The smacks of desperation given the history Russia and Serbia have.He did it yesterday. By recognizing Kosovo he somehow thought that he would give validity to the reagions he wants to break away in the Ukraine.
Pretty amazing considering how few allies Russia has.He did it yesterday. By recognizing Kosovo he somehow thought that he would give validity to the regions he wants to break away in the Ukraine.
He did not. Just made parallels with Donbas.How long ago did he do that? And why? Completely missed that one.