They seem to quite like their Starlink and Brit/Swe NLAW's.
Who was it again who said Chechen soldiers were real life James Bonds? Was it the guy who recently had this break down claiming Russia is clearly winning the war?
They seem to quite like their Starlink and Brit/Swe NLAW's.
Yes. Though the Chechen reputation wasn't entirely without merit. I believe they were regarded as pretty good jihadist fighters in conflicts outside Chechnya such as Syria.Who was it again who said Chechen soldiers were real life James Bonds? Was it the guy who recently had this break down claiming Russia is clearly winning the war?
I know people are dismissing it as just bluster but all this Russian talk of nuclear warfare is creepy as feck. I understand that it's a different mentality in Russia but you'd think their citizens would be scared by this too and there'd be more internal pressure.
and yes i'm aware that any dissent is quickly cracked down upon but if enough people did it....
Who knew that nuclear armageddon was going to be decided by some guy on a football forum.I’m getting pretty fed up of this now. I am fully cognisant of the risks and potential global impact of escalating this, but to my mind the time has come to enforce our way of life. Every minute this goes on, the more we embolden Russia and the more we give away and erode that ethos. Ukraine might not be in NATO but this is now beyond that fact. History has told us that people like Putin don’t settle for a bit. The more we don’t do enough, the more he feels he can do. It’s time to take another step in support in my view, and that’s at least more significant equipment provision and a no fly zone. As I said I’m fully aware of what that means, but it’s time.
I know people are dismissing it as just bluster but all this Russian talk of nuclear warfare is creepy as feck. I understand that it's a different mentality in Russia but you'd think their citizens would be scared by this too and there'd be more internal pressure.
and yes i'm aware that any dissent is quickly cracked down upon but if enough people did it....
The BBC reports:
"... Vladimir Putin has made a fresh threat to the West, saying any country that sets out to intervene in Ukraine will face a "lightning-fast" military response.
"We have all the tools for this, that no one else can boast of having... we'll use them, if needed," he said. "We have already taken all the decisions on this ...
The expanded sharing is intended to help Ukraine defend and potentially retake territory in those regions, the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity about the sensitive matter.
Ironically this statement could have been made by the US, UK or NATO.
Ironically this statement could have been made by the US, UK or NATO.
" ... Maria Zakharova, the Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman, suggested that strikes could be authorized against NATO states who provide arms to Ukraine.
She warned: 'Do we understand correctly that for the sake of disrupting the logistics of military supplies, Russia can strike military targets on the territory of those NATO countries that supply arms to the Kyiv regime?"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ites-in-pro-ukraine-nato-countries/ar-AAWE2OK
Who knew that nuclear armageddon was going to be decided by some guy on a football forum.
Not much of a surprise that they are less than happy about the current situation.
Also, good fecking luck with that
If Putin really decided to use nukes, where would he even start? In Ukraine? In a NATO country that has nukes as well?
How would the response of the NATO probably look like?
Calm?
Or total nuclear annihilation of all Russian military bases and places where they have nukes?
These are very sad and crazy times but I still think the chances that this will escalate to a nuclear war are less than 1%.
If Putin really decided to use nukes, where would he even start? In Ukraine? In a NATO country that has nukes as well?
How would the response of the NATO probably look like?
Calm?
Or total nuclear annihilation of all Russian military bases and places where they have nukes?
These are very sad and crazy times but I still think the chances that this will escalate to a nuclear war are less than 1%.
Putin said multiple times that the worst thing in his life was the downfall of the soviet union.While I agree the chances are remote, there is a wildcard in all of this and that is Putin and his physical and mental health.
People who are in power for decades unchallenged, have a tendency to feel untouchable. This combined with whisperings that he's in ill health, give me little confidence that the Russian administration will act rationally should their campaign in Ukraine continue to stall and falter.
Is that the guy whose YouTubes you were spamming earlier? I’d be wary of using him as a reference point in this context.What concerns me - when combined with the views of Vlad Vexler as cited earlier in this thread regarding Putin's gambling willingness to escalate up to and including the use of nukes - is Russia's continually ratcheting up the threats.
They must know that such threats will not deter the West from supplying weapons - so why are they continuing making and intensifying these threats? What purpose does it serve? Might they in fact be psychologically preparing the Russian public for nuclear conflict, as well as geeing up their own nerves to actually do it?
Unlike some, I am much less complacent about all this not escalating to nukes.
It's said that there are three groups amongst observers re. the nuke-threat :
1) Those who say nukes have only been used once in war - and since that was nearly 80 years ago it means they won't ever be used again.
2) Those who believe absolutely that deterrence (Mutually Assured Destruction) will guarantee nukes will never be used again.
3) Those who don't at all accept the complacency of view 1, and are not completely confident about view 2.
I'm in this 3rd group.
It’s not complacency to believe nukes won’t be used.
Unless you believe there is no logic left, even twisted, warped logic, then what would be the reasoning behind using them?
They’re great as a threat, they serve very little use and cause a ton of problems from delivery to tactical reasoning when being deployed.
And MAD is very much a thing, the rest of the world won’t distinguish between a ‘tactical’ nuke and a normal one, they’ll be firing up the silos as soon as Russia go to deploy and at that stage, you’re reliant on everyone under Putin having a deathwish, which they don’t/won’t.
Is that the guy whose YouTubes you were spamming earlier? I’d be wary of using him as a reference point in this context.
Aside from not trusting random Youtubers with crap thumbnails, suggesting Putin is planning on trying to nuke a NATO country before using a tactical nuke in Ukraine reduces one’s credibility.Why?
Aside from not trusting random Youtubers with crap thumbnails, suggesting Putin is planning on trying to nuke a NATO country before using a tactical nuke in Ukraine reduces one’s credibility.
Does she understand that NATO countries can strike Russian targets within Russia?Referring to Britain specifically:
" ... Maria Zakharova, the Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman, suggested that strikes could be authorized against NATO states who provide arms to Ukraine.
She warned: 'Do we understand correctly that for the sake of disrupting the logistics of military supplies, Russia can strike military targets on the territory of those NATO countries that supply arms to the Kyiv regime?"
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...ites-in-pro-ukraine-nato-countries/ar-AAWE2OK
Russia are losing the war, they will collapse economically and never recover their military power during Putin's lifetime. So why escelate this now to a possible nuclear war?
They must know that such threats will not deter the West from supplying weapons - so why are they continuing making and intensifying these threats? What purpose does it serve?
I'm genuinely wondering how these spies managed to kill British citizens in the UK.
I'm genuinely wondering how these spies managed to kill British citizens in the UK.