TMDaines
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And you wonder why people are disgusted about the Red Cross seriously proposing to facilitate the evacuation of Ukrainian refugees to Russia:
You read Tom Clancy novels where the US opponents have similar dynamics, and yet you think "surely no one would be like that in the real world". Then you read that the Japanese did similar in WWII, not reporting their carrier losses at Midway to the emperor, falsely claiming more US carriers sunk than the US even had, and again you think "surely no one would be like that in 2022". Yet apparently here we are.
Does he really? All reports suggest that he lives extremely isolated since Covid started to be an issue, and also that he doesn't use modern technologies like smart phones etc, but instead relies on reports on paper. Someone has to get those to him, and it is plausible that those are carefully done in a way that favors the reporter.Then you read hundreds of tweets from journalists that meant nothing but made for a good story and you still see posts like this actually believing Putin does not know what his military is up to. He knows. Losses and all. He's not just playing ps5 getting calls from his generals.
Does he really? All reports suggest that he lives extremely isolated since Covid started to be an issue, and also that he doesn't use modern technologies like smart phones etc, but instead relies on reports on paper. Someone has to get those to him, and it is plausible that those are carefully done in a way that favors the reporter.
So it is absolutely plausible that a lot of his military decisions are/were based on very wrong information.
He definitely knows what's going on. The problem is that the logic of his decision making is based on the paranoia of his own isolation, as well as his inner circle not wanting to give him assessments they think would anger him (thereby jeopardizing their own positions and safety). In the absence of a proper advisor who isn't afraid of him, he will continue to blunder his way through a series of miscalculations.
This is a quote from a US govt official, so the journalist didn't make it up. The US official might have made it up, or it could be bad intelligence. But there is precedent for this sort of self-deception, in the case of Japan in WWII that I mentioned but also you could argue that in the case of the US govt itself and evaluations about the situation in Afghanistan all through the last 20 years.Then you read hundreds of tweets from journalists that meant nothing but made for a good story and you still see posts like this actually believing Putin does not know what his military is up to. He knows. Losses and all. He's not just playing ps5 getting calls from his generals.
How can he fully know what's going on if, as you suggest, his inner circle don't want to give him assessments they think would anger him?
That might give him a bit of a reality shock now, but in the build up of the war Western TV stations were mostly believing that Russia would seize Ukraine in 2-3 days, in line with his own believes.As someone obsessed with his own self-image, he watches a lot of TV and not just his own Russian channels.
Does he really? All reports suggest that he lives extremely isolated since Covid started to be an issue, and also that he doesn't use modern technologies like smart phones etc, but instead relies on reports on paper. Someone has to get those to him, and it is plausible that those are carefully done in a way that favors the reporter.
So it is absolutely plausible that a lot of his military decisions are/were based on very wrong information.
This is a quote from a US govt official, so the journalist didn't make it up. The US official might have made it up, or it could be bad intelligence. But there is precedent for this sort of self-deception, in the case of Japan in WWII that I mentioned but also you could argue that in the case of the US govt itself and evaluations about the situation in Afghanistan all through the last 20 years.
How can anyone believe he is living in a shell like that. It's a simple case of losing men and armory and miscalculations but not affording to back out to face the nation. I am not one of those folks who thinks Putin is some sort of chess master but the lengths people go to, to make it seem like he's in a basement thinking nothing wrong is going on, is pretty silly imo.
Honestly, if you look at Putin I've never seen him look more panicked and worried. His comments have never been more aggressive. He knows exactly what's going on and is stressed as hell about it.
But contrary to Putin’s fantasies, the ongoing transformation of the global energy system is not a process that can be bludgeoned into oblivion, confused by disinformation warfare or distracted by sleight-of-hand negotiations. It is being driven by fundamental economic factors. The diminishing returns and escalating costs of fossil fuel extraction are being outcompeted by exponentially declining costs and improving the performance of energy and transport technologies. The EROI of renewable energy plants is already higher than that of fossil fuels, and continually increasing. In comparison, the hyper-expensive exploitation of remote fossil fuel resources in Siberia is economically unsustainable, even amidst triple-digit oil prices, simply because such expensive, low-quality energy cannot compete.
How can anyone believe he is living in a shell like that. It's a simple case of losing men and armory and miscalculations but not affording to back out to face the nation. I am not one of those folks who thinks Putin is some sort of chess master but the lengths people go to, to make it seem like he's in a basement thinking nothing wrong is going on, is pretty silly imo.
Honestly, if you look at Putin I've never seen him look more panicked and worried. His comments have never been more aggressive. He knows exactly what's going on and is stressed as hell about it.
There's a lot of truth in the reports and articles that cover how Russia views Ukraine just as an extension of their own country, and there's virtually nobody of any influence who actually takes the time to study and understand Ukraine, its language and its cultural. It's pure colonialism all over again.I think the truth probably sits somewhere in the middle. One the one hand, he clearly didn't realise that Ukraine wouldn't just roll over and surrender, nor that most Ukrainians would be hostile to incoming Russian troops, nor that his forces would perform so badly due to poor equipment, poor leadership, low morale (etc etc). All that speaks to him having previously been living in a shell of some kind.
One the other hand, he was probably aware of the shattering of those illusions within the first week of the invasion. And now he's stuck with it: unable to retreat his forces back into Russia/Crimea, because that would probably be the end of him, but also seeing his forces unable to make significant breakthroughs.
I don't think that he doesn't know at all what is going on, that wasn't my point.How can anyone believe he is living in a shell like that. It's a simple case of losing men and armory and miscalculations but not affording to back out to face the nation. I am not one of those folks who thinks Putin is some sort of chess master but the lengths people go to, to make it seem like he's in a basement thinking nothing wrong is going on, is pretty silly imo.
Honestly, if you look at Putin I've never seen him look more panicked and worried. His comments have never been more aggressive. He knows exactly what's going on and is stressed as hell about it.
Not sure what to think of this article. First of all, it ignores the current heavy sanctions imposed on Russia. The war dragging on won't be nice for Russia in that sense, surely?Fascinating article about how the war may be all about oil prices and actually it was arguably never necessary to win it quickly in Putin's mind.
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/30/weak-oil-the-looming-collapse-of-putins-petro-dictatorship/
It is a comparison of before/after footage.I watched the first four seconds and can't see what is wrong?!
Maybe you should have watched more seconds.I watched the first four seconds and can't see what is wrong?!
It is a comparison of before/after footage.
Oh come on, guys. I had my Rossiya 1 hat on for that post.Maybe you should have watched more seconds.
достаточно честнoOh come on, guys. I had my Rossiya 1 hat on for that post.
The problem with this argument is Putin's Achilles heel - Russia's complete reliance on expertise and tech, from the very European countries he wants to destablise in order to keep prices high. It's pretty clear that his customers aren't going to let that happen.Fascinating article about how the war may be all about oil prices and actually it was arguably never necessary to win it quickly in Putin's mind.
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/30/weak-oil-the-looming-collapse-of-putins-petro-dictatorship/
He's a typical strongman who rules through fear.
I listened to a great podcast on audible about him (by Misha Glenny) and (in it's most simple form) he was selected by the oligarchs (principally Berezovsky) because they though he could be controlled. He wasn't as stupid as they thought and in the end, made sure the rich behaved themselves on pain of death (Berezovsky) or a stint in the gulag (Khodorkovsky). The others then fell into line, as have the politicians he's made rich and fearful of him in equal measure.
His problem now is that he's surrounded by yes men. I suspect because anyone who's clever or shows promise is a threat. Seems everyone is too scared to tell him what's happening. He's gaslighting himself.
Hopefully he goes the way most of his kind do, with a bullet in the head from someone close. He'll be looking for someone to blame but we could be witnessing his end here. At some stage the tide will turn and the rats will start deserting the ship.
Thanks for sharing. The part in bold reminds me of how Xi was selected by people who thought they could control him.
Fascinating article about how the war may be all about oil prices and actually it was arguably never necessary to win it quickly in Putin's mind.
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/03/30/weak-oil-the-looming-collapse-of-putins-petro-dictatorship/
I ”hate” Trump and despise almost everything. He stands for. But calling him a “dictator” doesn’t make much sense. “Wanna be dictator” maybe.why does Xi not get the same worldwide scrutiny as other dictators like Putin or Trump?
why does Xi not get the same worldwide scrutiny as other dictators like Putin or Trump?
Not sure what to think of this article. First of all, it ignores the current heavy sanctions imposed on Russia. The war dragging on won't be nice for Russia in that sense, surely?
It also contradicts reports that they planned to take Kyiv in mere days, hence a quick victory over the Ukrainian government.
I think the article could have been better if the author took these things into account.
It does make an interesting case for Russian reluctance to unleash all their capabilities.