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In the middle of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, we have this. Anyone still think that Trump is not a Russian intelligence asset?



Remember when some in this thread were arguing that Trump was tougher on Russia than other presidents? Or that supposedly the faux actions his administration took to oppose Russia were stronger than any words he had on the subject?
 
Remember when some in this thread were arguing that Trump was tougher on Russia than other presidents? Or that supposedly the faux actions his administration took to oppose Russia were stronger than any words he had on the subject?

He was so tough on the Russians that's why they didn't dare to attack Ukraine during the Trump reign. They were petrified of his retaliations.

They have been emboldened by the weakness of Uncle Joe.






:) Trumplets can rationalise the world any way they see fit.
 
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I reckon it's too early to draw firm conclusions about this. First, most Russians are not aware of the huge military losses their troops are suffering, but these can't be hidden forever. If, for example, they have 50,000 troops out of action already (dead, wounded, captured, surrendered or deserted ), and if each one of those has, say, 10 close friends and/or family members, that's already half a million Russians who will eventually find out what happened, and each of these will in turn talk to other Russians in a snowball effect.

Second, it will take time for the real effects of the economic sanctions to work their way into the system, not least because there's a limit as to how long the government can artificially shield away these effects. But when GDP eventually shrinks by a third (let's say), when inflation hits 30%, when unemployment triples, when shortages in the shops accelerates, when spare parts for repairing all sort of things become unavailable etc etc etc ... then we shall see.

Third, most Russians are unware of the devastation being wrought in their name inside Ukraine. OK, many may well never know, assuming that Russia's internet shut-off remains permanent ... but that's a big assumption.

Absolutely all of this has happened in Serbia in the 1990s and it took more than 9 years after the start of the war + a NATO bombing during this time in order for Milosevic to go down.

You underestimate the importance of independent media. You and all the posters who claimed that the Russians are collectively reaponsible for this, since they support Putin. Yes, the average Russian will notice that his life has turned to shit, but will blame the dirty West rather than his president.
 
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Absolutely all of this has happened in Serbia in the 1990s and it took more than 9 years after the start of the war + a NATO bombing during this time in order for Milosevic to go down.

You underestimate the importance of independent media. You and all the posters who claimed that the Russians are collectively reaponsible for this, since they support Putin. Yes, the average Russian will notice that his life has turned to shit, but will blame the dirty West rather than his president.

I have said no such thing.

You may be right that most Russians will be propagandised into blaming the West for all the ills headed their way. But it'll be a hard sell to explain why mighty Russia failed to defeat Ukraine when not a single NATO soldier took part in the fight. And it'll be hard to sweep under the carpet what might eventually be - if this goes on for another several weeks - 100,000 dead or wounded Russian troops.
 
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Absolutely all of this has happened in Serbia in the 1990s and it took more than 9 years after the start of the war + a NATO bombing during this time in order for Milosevic to go down.

You underestimate the importance of independent media. You and all the posters who claimed that the Russians are collectively reaponsible for this, since they support Putin. Yes, the average Russian will notice that his life has turned to shit, but will blame the dirty West rather than his president.

If Slobo had nukes red button would have been pressed.
 
Good video on the latest situation. Doesn't seem to get bogged down with propaganda (like so much other analysis of this war).

 
More like a sociopathic person who doesn’t experience any empathy towards different people and uses literally anything for his individual advantage.

An enemy of the state. Or enema. Either or.
 
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Fresh on MSNBC's YouTube page. Putin learned all wrong lessons in past military disasters.



That throwback to the Chechen Wars, damn.
 
If Slobo had nukes red button would have been pressed.
Nah, NATO would have just not intervened. Bosna and Kosovo had shit armies in comparison to Serbia even without nukes, so they would have been easy defeated, and their population be exiled without foreign intervention.

Croatia on the other hand, that would have been interesting.
 


:lol: Military Superpower, tHeY are sAvInG tHe gOoD stuff!

Well, to be honest a Toyota 4 x 4 is probably a better choice. Reliable, tough and you can get spare parts in every nook and cranny of world without relying on threatened Russian supply lines.
 
Nah, NATO would have just not intervened. Bosna and Kosovo had shit armies in comparison to Serbia even without nukes, so they would have been easy defeated, and their population be exiled without foreign intervention.

Croatia on the other hand, that would have been interesting.

This might be a technicality, but I just want to point out that the Serbian army (as in, the army of Serbia as in JNA) did not intervene in Bosnia. They were supplying the Bosnian Serbs with weapons and helping with intel, but the army as such was not deployed.
 
Reading about the war in recent days is arguably more grim than it has ever been. Footage of the territory liberated by Ukrainians shows that the Russians were killing civilians and leaving their bodies to rot where they fell. More and more intercepts of audio are released with Russians bragging about rape and torture. Survivor testimonies from those that fell into occupation are utterly tragic.

Ultimately 50% of this could shown to be falsified or misleading, and it would still be absolutely damning.
 
Not sure whose reputation has fallen further. The Russian military’s in general, or specifically the Kadyrovites’:



The top content is “Vanilla ISIS”.
 
Not sure whose reputation has fallen further. The Russian military’s in general, or specifically the Kadyrovites’:



The top content is “Vanilla ISIS”.

Look like fecking amateurs. No discipline.
 
Nah, NATO would have just not intervened. Bosna and Kosovo had shit armies in comparison to Serbia even without nukes, so they would have been easy defeated, and their population be exiled without foreign intervention.

Croatia on the other hand, that would have been interesting.

Completely and utterly wrong. You do know the the war raged for almost 9 years in Bosnia before NATO intervened? Yugoslavia (Serbia) did not defeat Bosnia nor the other way around. Control of areas changed hands almost weekly for years, it was a no win for both sides.
 
Completely and utterly wrong. You do know the the war raged for almost 9 years in Bosnia before NATO intervened? Yugoslavia (Serbia) did not defeat Bosnia nor the other way around. Control of areas changed hands almost weekly for years, it was a no win for both sides.

Whaaat? You are mixing up Croatian and Bosnian independence war with Kosovo war. Nato did not intervene in Bosnia or Croatia (except in an advisory role, towards the end).

In fact with Dayton treaty of 1995 the war in Bosnia was concluded. Shortly before that the war in Croatia was finished.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Agreement

The conflict in Kosovo is completely unrelated with those two wars, except that one of the involved party (aggressor) was again Serbia/Yugoslavia.
 
Not sure whose reputation has fallen further. The Russian military’s in general, or specifically the Kadyrovites’:



The top content is “Vanilla ISIS”.

Doesnt it end with an incident? I know absolutely nothing about weapons, but the last guy fires and his weapon catches fire at the end, he then lowers it and something drops out of it. He stops smiling and the video cuts. The first guy seems to use the same kind of weapon but the rear end doesnt catch fire when he fires it.
 
Completely and utterly wrong. You do know the the war raged for almost 9 years in Bosnia before NATO intervened? Yugoslavia (Serbia) did not defeat Bosnia nor the other way around. Control of areas changed hands almost weekly for years, it was a no win for both sides.
The entire war lasted less than four years, so I am not sure where does the 9 years come from.

Additionally, NATO intervened in Bosnan war, by introducing a no-fly zone, shooting down Serbian jets, and occasionally bombing Serbian positions. Of course, it was nowhere as a big intervention as in the war of Kosovo, where NATO essentially did all the decisive fighting.
 
"(Reuters) - Annual inflation in Russia accelerated to 15.66% as of March 25, its highest since September 2015 and up from 14.53% a week earlier, the economy ministry said on Wednesday, as the battered rouble sent prices soaring amid unprecedented Western sanctions.

Inflation in Russia has accelerated sharply in the past few weeks as the rouble's fall to an all-time low boosted demand for a wide range of goods, from food staples to cars, on expectations that their prices will rise even higher.

In February, annual inflation in Russia was at 9.15%."


https://money.usnews.com/investing/...limbs-above-15-6-highest-since-september-2015
 
Not sure whose reputation has fallen further. The Russian military’s in general, or specifically the Kadyrovites’:



The top content is “Vanilla ISIS”.


I don’t understand why the they came with a reputation anyway personally.

Some talking up these units like the SEALs or SAS. Bloody laughable.
 
The entire war lasted less than four years, so I am not sure where does the 9 years come from.

Additionally, NATO intervened in Bosnan war, by introducing a no-fly zone, shooting down Serbian jets, and occasionally bombing Serbian positions. Of course, it was nowhere as a big intervention as in the war of Kosovo, where NATO essentially did all the decisive fighting.

9 years of skirmishes within ex-Yugoslavia. There was never a proper peace within the country between 1991and 2000/2001.

I fought in that whole war and the statement that the Serbian forces would have easily won it is untrue. Villages and strategic positions changed hands constantly. There were uprisings early 90's in Kosovo aswell without Serbs gaining control. NATO made no difference in Bosnia, maybe in the movies they did.
 
Not sure whose reputation has fallen further. The Russian military’s in general, or specifically the Kadyrovites’:



The top content is “Vanilla ISIS”.


Are these the same guys that could apparently steamroll any army in Europe?
 
I don’t understand why the they came with a reputation anyway personally.

Some talking up these units like the SEALs or SAS. Bloody laughable.

'Chechens' do generally have a good reputation for being hardened effective fighters, as reported by various encounters with the US in Afghanistan etc. These being the Chechens that wouldn't be seen dead helping Russia in any way shape or form.

These sorry excuses for soldiers under Kadyrov appear to be tryin to live off that reputation.
 
Hopefully the leadership of Georgia can finally decide whose side they are on:

 
These referendums to be independent states, and then to join the Russian Federation, are a complete nonsense and a piss-take of the democratic process.
 
Can someone who understands accounting and finance better than me explain this whole “paying in rubles” malarkey and its significance?

I understand having to buy rubles on the market to pay say Gasprom for gas, will bolster demand for the ruble and therefore its dollar exchange rate. But if Gazprom has an account in Euros or Dollars and you pay them in those currencies instead, they can still use those foreign currency reserves to buy ruble on the market which will have the same effect. Whether it’s the German govt buying Rubles or Gazprom… it makes no difference surely?

All you have to do is force your own Russian state companies to hold minimal reserves in foreign currency and convert everything else to rubles. What am I missing?

EDIT: I understand that if you have to pay in another currency your payment size might depend on exchange rates and thus you might want to buy swaps contracts from financial institutions to minimise your exposure to risk from adverse currency fluctuations. But still…
 
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