I work for a shipping company. About 8 of the 10 shipping giants have suspended all shipments to Russia. Import/export by ship is almost done for.
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I work for a shipping company. About 8 of the 10 shipping giants have suspended all shipments to Russia. Import/export by ship is almost done for.
Autocrats stick together.
feck The Sun, but an interesting account of a border crossing:
yikes
It's hard to predict whether it's just rhetoric aimed at intimidating, or a genuine threat. I lean towards the former.
Probably not the time and place for the rant thats about to ensue but this sentiment frustrates me.
I feel deeply for the Ukrainian people, but I can't help but feel that their plight (through no fault of their own) has only illuminated the deeply vested racism within Europe. With refugees from Syria the sentiment was that they were all a bunch of undesirable rapists and murderers, merely economic migrants who should stay back and defend their country. Yet with Ukraine its stories of how they're blonde hair blue eyed people just like us, and suddenly Europe has found space in their hearts to welcome refugees.
I do salute nations who've embraced these Ukrainian refugees, I only hope they'd share the same compassion for others who also find themselves displaced through no fault of their own.
Priti Patel and the Tory party as a whole can go feck themselves though, the virtue signalling pricks.
Haven't seen this posted anywhere yet. Greed of luxury brands clearly trumps morality. Russia free to buy Italian luxury goods and Belgian diamonds.
I think she kind of skips several stairs in that interview. She goes from they injected polonium to some former Russian spy, so they have already gone nuclear, to Putin will use nuclear weapons.
Also, I am not sure how do the hypersonic missile changes the course of anything. Neither country is able to defend against a massive ICBM/SCBMs anyway, so even without hypersonic missiles, US and Europe are toast. So is Russia, which I think is why this is not gonna happen.
So they will be left with whatever is produced within their own borders, as well as what they can trade over land with the likes of Belarus, China, and Kazakhstan, but with their currency taking a pounding that must be limited as well. A default seems likely.
I think sanctions staying or not will depend on the west's assessment on whether Putin is likely to fall.
If they think he'll sustain and just rule over a broken economy then the worst of the sanctions are probably just going to empower him and his anti-west successors. That could be an even far more dangerous situation.
I wouldn't be surprised if most are in time pulled back and only those targeting Putin and his oligarchs remain.
If they think he'll sustain and just rule over a broken economy then the worst of the sanctions are probably just going to empower him and his anti-west successors. That could be an even far more dangerous situation.
I wouldn't be surprised if most are in time pulled back and only those targeting Putin and his oligarchs remain.
theres a bit more to it than what the writer claims
Watching BBC news and Victoria Derbyshire has got to be the news anchor equivalent to Liz Truss.
In other news, Sergei Lapdog has just said the US should take its nuclear weapons back from countries as far away as Germany.
This is why I think sanctions should be here to stay. If Putin wants war with NATO, no logical reason will stop him, so hammer him where it hurts for his cabal - their pockets and criminal luxury.
In other news, Sergei Lapdog has just said the US should take its nuclear weapons back from countries as far away as Germany.
This is why I think sanctions should be here to stay. If Putin wants war with NATO, no logical reason will stop him, so hammer him where it hurts for his cabal - their pockets and criminal luxury.
I have a question.
Ukraine President is calling for a no fly zone over the country, yes a good idea, but who will police this ?
The Ukraine Air Force are not in a position to do it, cant see NATO wanting to do this , can you just imagine US and UK jets patrolling the skies and shooting down a Russian MiG.
Ukraine President is calling for a no fly zone over the country, yes a good idea, but who will police this ?
The Ukraine Air Force are not in a position to do it, cant see NATO wanting to do this , can you just imagine US and UK jets patrolling the skies and shooting down a Russian MiG.
Damage the roads ahead and behind and then attack them so they start to move directly into IEDs.
They should get a few Afghans to show them how to disable the convoy because they have had a lot of practice.
Time to play dirty.
That's the issue with a no fly zone. The idea is feasible, but just not enforceable without serious escalation
And Gucci, Prada, Louis Vuitton, Givenchy and Belgian diamonds.
Solid nutrition, I hear
Surely thats basically inviting WW3
It's reprehensible for sure, but it won't do the Russian economy any good. These products are relevant for a small minority of the people, and not in any way essential.
The standard oligarch diet. Still shocking from Italy and Belgium.
NATO ought to send you guys a loaf of F-16's to replace the Mig-29's you've given away. It should be done immediately. They should also deploy some top line fighter aircraft over Poland to defend your airspace - having said that, looking at the shit performance of the Russian airforce, you'll be fine.
I hate it when people call something 1984-esque, but the Russian and Belarusian governments' relationship to truth is surely 1984-esque. I just saw reports that the Belarusians claim that not only do they have no plans to join the invasion (while reports are coming in that they've already joined the invasion), no Russian troops have even invaded Ukraine through Belarus. It's so obviously untrue that you have to wonder if anyone is buying it.
While that's true, it just sets a terrible example and symbolism
Yeah, I can't see nukes being used proactively like that, it's a last chance detterant. Even if his plans would be foiled here, he still has a very large army back home, and he can reset, cling on to power while drawing rest of the world back into cold war, and see out his next 14 years in power doing what he did before, seed chaos in NATO from within.
Their economy is in tatters, but also western influence over russians is diminishing rapidly. He'll make a siege mentality, be a lidl North Korea for a while, and one by one, european powers will go back to trading with them, while keeping sanctions against selected few people, who don't give a shit about them anyway.
Dropping a nuke, even a single one, would be saying, ah shit, I'm done for, all plans gone to waste, lost power in Russia, lets just go out with a bang.
I can certainly understand the concern, but isn't Poland currently being filled with additional NATO forces?
Letting fighters operate out of NATO countries may give Putin an excuse to escalate, but he would also be fighting on multiple fronts suddenly and surely lose. He only really has the nuke card, which is of course also a major concern.
Majority is in the East.
The normal course of action would be a UN authorised no fly zone - but of course due to russian veto that wont happen
Cant see nato agreeing to it as the hungarians are trying to stop wepons being sent there and Italy / Belgium insisted on still being able to sell luxury goods and diamonds to Russia to pass other sanctions.
Biden has been pretty clear about not committing us personnel to date
It would take a monumentally stupid person to commit UK jets to such a task alone... but that said we have boris and
so we are certainty capable of making a stupid decision
Are we still buying Russian gas?
You are overreacting. Russian planes will run out of fuel before they get to Poland.
But there are no nuclear weapons officially in any of the countries any closer to Russia?
Exactly. Blow a crater in the road and mine around it to either side as far as humanly possible
if Poland is giving their MIGs to Ukraine, it almost certainly means that they are getting some F16 or better in return.
My worry is that the situations can escalate quickly, even if Putin is not planning a nuclear war. Something like:
1) Poland sends MIGs to Ukraine and allows them to use Poland's airspace and airports
2) MIGs do devastating results in the war, destroying parts of the Russian military caravan.
3) Russia throws a small tactical nuke in Poland's airport from where Ukraine starts their aircrafts. Both to destroy it, but also as a warning sign.
4) Poland invokes article 5, with US immediately retaliating by throwing a tactical nuke in Russian forces or in some Russian' base in Belarus.
5) ...
Thing is, from now to a nuclear war, we are far away. But if (3) happens, a nuclear war becomes an extremely likely scenario. if Putin orders (3), then it is essentially a tossed coin between the end of civilization and Putin getting ousted from power.
Think he means as far away as Germany is from the US
At this point, it's just making it as they go. Logic is really not part of the equation here.
You have 32 F35As coming. A handful of those could do the job of your entire Mig 29 fleet. I wouldn't worry too much.
Even with Boris and Co in charge, there is no way the UK would be sending aircraft to enforce any no fly zone.The normal course of action would be a UN authorised no fly zone - but of course due to russian veto that wont happen
Cant see nato agreeing to it as the hungarians are trying to stop wepons being sent there and Italy / Belgium insisted on still being able to sell luxury goods and diamonds to Russia to pass other sanctions.
Biden has been pretty clear about not committing us personnel to date
It would take a monumentally stupid person to commit UK jets to such a task alone... but that said we have boris and
so we are certainty capable of making a stupid decision
isn't the F-35 a flop? Would have been better off with the latest generation Eurofighter i reckon.
It'll still be better than anything the Russians have. Their airforce is a shambles, their so called military might has been dangerously exposed.
I'm sick of the fighting rhetoric from our Govt. I don't care whether we are right or wrong...if ever there was a need for discretion being the better part of valour, it's now.