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Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Gotta wonder if Putin looked at the US invasion of Iraq & wanted something similar at the outset.
Well, not sure how everyone will be able to just stand back and watch.
I'm confused. Is this the same guy who was posted about 10 pages ago who offered a tow back to Russia ?
For those that aren't aware of thermobaric weapons…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon
Hope they don't get used. Utterly awful and indiscriminate weapons. Would also be a war crime and a serious escalation.
Foundation of Geopolitics by Dugin.
I just typed that on Google and found the description on Wikipedia. Fecking hell, that book is quite a nasty piece of work.
This is why. It is considered to be a genocide and a full on war starts.
I can only imagine the patina of filth you now feel.
Yes, asked my Russian colleague yesterday about it, and he gave a similar translation.
I agree with Marco here, using thermobaric weapons in civilian areas are war crimes. I do wonder if he thinks the same about the thermobaric munitions dropped on Fallujah?
It is. It has quite the reputation in Russia. Somebody described it as "Putin's to-do checklist".
I still don't think the west will act on it with troops.
If the cnut has indeed deployed TOS -1 and this info has been leaked, the allies are on the way already. Because it is now or never.
Probably banned by now
The will destroy the launchers. No way the use of thermobaric weapons goes unpunished.
‘Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics.’
Might be seeing some of that in action here.
Mate, you're not the only one, I honestly didn't think it would get this far.Yeah, I know. I've already said loads of pages back that the invasion stunned me.
Stunned a lot of people.
They are not. Unfortunately nobody will react before it happens.
Can only imagine the posts.
With the best will in the world, the allies are there already (with crippling sanctions, arms, and other support). That's NATO's limit barring a hot conflict which would go nuclear. Turkey have closed a certain strait, if the news is accurate (have to double check), others sending guns and so on. That's all that can be done unless someone wants to ride on a nuclear bomb as it drops over Moscow.
Apparently they haven't, yet
"Where is Major Kong?!"
They are on a standby, I am sure. If the news are true, and info is on the internet, then they are acting already. It is not like they have to convince anyone. The whole world is basically unified, and half a dozen states are just stepping aside and let it roll.
The most I can see is that they get a world cup ban and a few more sanctions... Even that will be a struggle to agree probably
Regarding SWIFT, the Financial Times said Russia had been preparing for the eventuality of being removed from SWIFT by looking at alternatives including the Chinese system apparently used by Iran and creating their own backchannel to facilitate the sale of key exports. Apparently this might involve using fax machines in the case of businesses which seems insane.But that also tells you something about how far Putin is willing to go. All of this has been factored in and so it looks abysmally bleak from every side.
Afraid of the consequences, most likely, as that would be close to a declaration of war on their part (but there is legal precedent for it).
You have too much faith here. NATO aren't doing shit pre-emptively and I highly doubt they will get involved even if that scumbag actually fires them.
The best we can hope for is it a warning to scare the Ukrainians. But I doubt that too.
I can't describe how I felt on Thursday morning when I opened the news. It was like I had to pinch myself.
Are you guys serious? Use of thermobaric weapons against a defending and already sieged state in Europe goes unpunished in 2022?
Lots of German planes making u-turns over Russia, looks like they have been asked to leave Russian air space
Coincidentally Florentino Perez declared war on Russia.
They’re helping Vlad after all…
If Russia get booted out of the SWIFT system how does this effect the average person ?
Even if they factored it in in advance there's no getting around the huge financial impact it would have. The Chinese system you mention is less that 0.5% the size of SWIFT for example. As an alternative it can only help ameliorate the impact so much when so much of your economy depends on being able to make international transfers on a day to day basis.
Is it fair to think that this list needs to be updated?
I know that invading is always more difficult than defending. But, even so, the Ruskies aren't covering themselves in glory.
I think there's a good chance other countries get involved inside Ukraine, because not doing so would be a green light for Putin to continue using them and killing thousands of civilians in the process.