Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Putler will have a special place in hell.
If sat nav signals can be jammed with the right countermeasures (and I think there are some), any army would run blind. Who says that there no efforts by other forces to jam or misdirect those signals?
Thought I would look back at the first page...found this guarantee
Where’s he getting that info from?
If you’ve ever been in convoy, you know all it takes is one wrong turn to feck everything up.
The GOP rarely call each other out, and even if they squibble they all know their role. Wonder what Rubios opinion of the pro Russian members of the GOP is. And why is he so vocal? To seem like a moderate conservative?
Yeahi suppose that would be the plan, never really thought that much in to it really.
He’s in senate intelligence committee (I believe vice chair).
If that happens, US led coalition will intervene. This means wiping out everything including people inside metro tunnels.
Yeah, I know. I've already said loads of pages back that the invasion stunned me.
He's a sitting U.S. Senator and Vice Chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence. They are deliberately releasing information to raise awareness on what may soon happen, in an effort to expose Russian actions and limit the element of surprise.
For those only checking this thread, I encourage you to post any updates on aid to this thread as well: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/helping-ukraine.469097/#post-28543380
I'm trying to keep track of both threads, but this one is growing so fast it is easy to lose track.
I'm trying to keep track of both threads, but this one is growing so fast it is easy to lose track.
I think it's gross incompetence more than anything. Any military history buff out there would know that fuel shortage is by far the main reason why the Battle of the Bulge ended up in failure for the Germans. I really wonder what they even teach at the Russian military academy.
Agreed. I think at that point, R2P kicks in and other nations become involved inside Ukraine.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/about-responsibility-to-protect.shtml
Foundation of Geopolitics by Dugin.
This is going to be hell. If one of those flies in, all hell breaks loose.
I remember what our BLUs did in the mountains / caves of Afghanistan. Terrifying to think similar would be unleashed into a densely populated city.
Well, not moving fuel would be gross incompetence. It doesn't really go against the statements in my post.
He's quickly becoming an outcast in his own party (as evidenced by his paltry CPAC attendance), which is a bit odd given that he originally rose to power during the 2010 Tea Party wave. Politics aside, his tweets over the past week have been very good.
Surely the big boys step in at that point?
Hinds are flying tanks.
Thankfully you didn't have to resort to quoting any old Florida Man posts.
At the risk of getting into another history discussion and getting told off by modmins, I'd say it had more to do with the complete air-superiority of the Allies, and the general lack of everything for the Germans. They could have had all the fuel in the world, the Battle of the Bulge was never going to work anyway.
But as to the greater point, yeah, fuel is pretty damn vital. Modern tanks can go quite far, but Ukraine is big. At the end of the day logistics is the most important part of warfare.
This is a strange argument since if you choose to flee the country you don't have it anymore anyway. People will make their own choices but I doubt it's down to bravery or lack of. No one wants to die and some will prioritise their life or their family's safety over their country when a conflict is localised like this one. Freedom and patriotism are not the same thing.
It's not clear whether it's wise (well, it isn't) but it's clear that it's Putin's approach. Mass land invasion always comes with significant casualties.
Sorry but you and Raoul are talking some nonsense in this thread. Ukraine cannot win this war it's just a question of how much it loses before it's over and how many die in the process. Putin isn't going to back down unless there's a compromise or a surrender, and giving some teenagers or 60 year olds rifles and sending them to fight against their will I doubt will be what makes the difference.
Maybe it's a cliche to say dying in a war is pointless but this war in particular is nonsensical. It's hard to work out any outcome that benefits any side. That's ok Putin/Russia obviously but it doesn't necessarily mean it's worth every adult man in Ukraine potentially dying over.
Not yet but again we are 3 days in. He's been willing to send troops in on the ground to areas where they would clearly suffer losses. He hasn't started shelling buildings or levelling city blocks yet but if it comes down to a battle for Kyiv that's what might well end up happening. Either that or Russia will lose a lot of lives getting ambushed and massacred at every street corner. Maybe they are hoping to keep it under siege rather than take full control. Either way once you commit as many numbers to a battle as Putin has its impossible there won't be significant casualties
Most certainly
Were you there btw?
Ultimately, these people obviously want to fight for their country because they know not doing so would mean they wouldn't have one anymore. This principle is applicable in most other situations as well.
This is the biggest worry here, Putin is going to push and push closer to the line of intervention to get what he wants. Nobody other than him and his inner circle really know how far he’s willing to go.
Am I right in saying it's currently calmer than expected in Kyiv?
Can anyone confirm if this is the real conversation with lost Russian troops?
Speaking of fuel…
why is that?
Depends what we mean by calm. There are clashes going on as well as shelling I think. Seems like the Russians might wanna throw in hard during the night.
Shit, sounded like I was, but was not. I remember hearing first hand reports of their capabilities & what they could do / did to the cave systems.
I would like to thank the mods for shutting off posters that were pro putin and anti democracy. It's all fun and "opinions" until people are dying.
It’s pretty straightforward