Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

This 'Rapid Response Brigrade' is apparently made up of a lot of volenteer veterens from NATO countries.

 
If you look at the cost/benefit of what he's doing - the sanctions are going to cripple him, the daily drip of imagery of needless carnage in Ukraine, the humanitarian disaster of displaced Ukrainians, the spectacle of dead Russian soldiers being broadcast on social media (which will be seen by domestic Russians), the protracted insurgency in Ukrainian cities, the compounding effects of sanctions on Oligarchs, the international isolation and unrelenting sanctions on things the Russian economy needs to exist - all of these are a far greater cost than anything he would gain in Ukraine, since he will never have full control of the country before the sanctions finish him off. He is more likely to get toppled from within than enjoy the spoils of external conquest.

This is why I think Ukraine isn't the only objective. Surely Putin has something else up his sleeve cause just Ukraine isn't worth the trouble.
 
Biden is the human equivalent of wet tissue paper. What a shit leader.
Bald and Bankrupt in Ukraine, hope he'll be able to get out of dodge.

Also wonder why he chose to go there with the troop build up in recent months.

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isnt he.. um.. pretty well known as being dodgy af?
 
humans are so worthless overall. Fighting over literally inconceivably small pieces of land when you consider the vastness of the universe and everything out there.
 
Sounding like Russians being pushed out of Sumy... They really have fecked up their eastern push, supposed to be the easy meat around the Russan border.

Perhaps Ukraine have focussed majority of their forces there. Perhaps russian forces aren't all they are cracked up to be, we haven't seen the full extent of their capability yet though, heavy bombers, tos-1 walking war crimes, etc.

I spoke too soon, here it comes.

 
Tbh all that is absolutely normal and to be expected. He was planning for this for over 8 years.
And make no mistakes he is pulling the strings with the oligarchs in the know.
So far unfortunately it doesn’t look like they are facing stiffer opposition.

It really depends how long will Kyiv stand. If they swiftly manage to decapitate the government I’m afraid it will soon be over and there will be only partisan movements in separate places.

There are a few things he thought he was adequately prepared for and could mitigate, but his calculus looks to have been pretty wrong. He underestimated Ukrainian resolve to fight, as well as the strength of solidarity among NATO members. If anything, he has reaffirmed the need for collective security and the need for not only NATO to exist, but for it to be strengthened significantly to deal with future situations like this. He also appears to have underestimated domestic appetite for another foreign invasion. Even if he were to secure Ukraine within the next month or so, the insurgency and extra sanctions will eventually suffocate the Russian economy to where domestic pressure will result in a revolution.
 
He attacked the base in Syria where Russian forces were staying (after telling them half an hour in advance).

The thing with Trump is that he was not a rational actor. Which makes doing things very unpredictable (probably a bit like how Putin is now).

Let's remember that if Trump was Putin's lapdog, this would have happened 2 years ago.

Trump was not against NATO, just wanted other European countries to pay their fare share. It is beyond disgrace that Germany and France, two very rich and large countries are still not able to defend themselves because they don't spend on their military.

Why would Putin risk undermining Trump by invading Ukraine 2 years ago? Trump was doing everything Putin wanted to undermine and destroy NATO. There's no reason to invade Ukraine if Trump, as he told Mark Esper, was planning to leave NATO after the election if he won. Trump kissed Putin's ass in Helsinki and stated he trusted him more than the US intelligence community. Over the last month, the intelligence community has proven to be right about virtually everything it said was happening.

Trump was utterly predictable. He was just a moron.

 
Jeez it was a joke.
Good on you but I am somewhat not amused by the prospect of the orange clown returning.

And in my defense, we had someone expressing this opinion seriously a page or two before, so who knows nowadays :lol:
 
Take care @harms. Stay safe.
Thanks! The amount of tags :)

There were more than 800 arrests in Moscow (this number would probably rise to 1000+, it’s always hard to keep track of) and more than 1500 throughout the entire Russia, but thankfully I’m okay.
 
Is it wrong that I smiled when reading that?

Whilst we will always celebrate Ukrainian military victories, try not to forget that the Russian soldiers are mostly lads who've been told they're doing the right thing. That plane going down was full of young men who leave families behind.

Situation is awful, even for the Russians.
 
Good on you but I am somewhat not amused by the prospect of the orange clown returning.

And in my defense, we had someone expressing this opinion seriously a page or two before, so who knows nowadays :lol:
Well in fairness, depending on what mood Trump was in that day,.he could have nuked them.

Either that or he'd join forces with them and take over all Europe.
 
This is why I think Ukraine isn't the only objective. Surely Putin has something else up his sleeve cause just Ukraine isn't worth the trouble.
Ukraine is not worth the trouble, adding extra issues is definetely not worth the trouble either. He seems to have a become a cruel aging psycopath. Look at his public speeches, does he even look like a psychologically stable person?
 
Pretty much none of these states are in any moral position to lecture Putin. And with Russia remaining the key to influence on Damascus, they all need to keep a line open for cooperation with Moscow.

Oh for sure, not talking about morality at all.
Just that MBS has gone out of his way to antagonise Biden by refusing to adjust oil production multiple times now, and that Biden hasn't hit him personally (over Kashoggi) or his country/military (over Yemen) in a way that hurts.
 
France nuclear is mainly and largely about energy, France are keeping it because we invested a lot in it and it has been cost efficient. Your take on this one is really bad.
Thank you.

Also weapons-grade plutonium doesn't come from energy reactors, rather from their own specific process. A country could make weapons-grade material without a civilian energy program.
 
Some of the unverified numbers on Twitter are horrendous. 3000+ Russian soldiers dead in Kharkiv…someone in Russia needs to stop Putin.
 
isnt he.. um.. pretty well known as being dodgy af?

He's a YouTuber who makes excellent alternative travel blogs in Eastern Europe.

I've heard that he's also into the cheap sex tourism in those parts of the world as well, but I've not read up on the details.
 
Oh for sure, not talking about morality at all.
Just that MBS has gone out of his way to antagonise Biden by refusing to adjust oil production multiple times now, and that Biden hasn't hit him personally (over Kashoggi) or SA (over Yemen) in a way that hurts.

Oh yeah, sorry, I was just thinking out loud really.
 
I don't support invasion of any country on territory of another so I'm strongly against Russian invasion but...

how is this invasion different to what America is doing last 20+ years in middle east. How can they on one hand distrupt peace in all continents around the world in last 40 years mostly just because of their benefits and still act so stupid like they are saints against Russia. And other NATO countries including mine is in same water taking part in NATO missions and now acting like angels.
And all western media and citizens are playing this game. I like the outcry about Russian invasion because what are they done, even if heavily provoked, is not right, but why there are no outcry when USA and NATO is invading?
 
I don't support invasion of any country on territory of another so I'm strongly against Russian invasion but...

how is this invasion different to what America is doing last 20+ years in middle east. How can they on one hand distrupt peace in all continents around the world in last 40 years mostly just because of their benefits and still act so stupid like they are saints against Russia. And other NATO countries including mine is in same water taking part in NATO missions and now acting like angels.
And all western media and citizens are playing this game. I like the outcry about Russian invasion because what are they done, even if heavily provoked, is not right, but why there are no outcry when USA and NATO is invading?

Short answer is none of the western countries are looking to add to their territory the way Russia is/has.
 
Thanks! The amount of tags :)

There were more than 800 arrests in Moscow (this number would probably rise to 1000+, it’s always hard to keep track of) and more than 1500 throughout the entire Russia, but thankfully I’m okay.
That’s great news :) apart from the arrests of course.
Stay safe!
 
Whilst we will always celebrate Ukrainian military victories, try not to forget that the Russian soldiers are mostly lads who've been told they're doing the right thing. That plane going down was full of young men who leave families behind.

Situation is awful, even for the Russians.

Yep, easy to forget that Russia’s actions don’t represent the motivations or will of the people. Nor are they for the benefit of Russia itself. It’s down to the maniacal neo-imperialism of the few.
 
Whilst we will always celebrate Ukrainian military victories, try not to forget that the Russian soldiers are mostly lads who've been told they're doing the right thing. That plane going down was full of young men who leave families behind.

Situation is awful, even for the Russians.

Completely agree.
 
Why wouldn't the world need nuclear energy in twenty years?

Someone needs to tell the UK of that because we are building 2 new nuclear plants in Hinkley in Somerset. And then at least another 2 more in Sizewell.
 
He's a YouTuber who makes excellent alternative travel blogs in Eastern Europe.

I've heard that he's also into the cheap sex tourism in those parts of the world as well, but I've not read up on the details.

yeah but he’s been convicted hasn’t he? Like, abusive levels? See if I can find the link.
 
I don't support invasion of any country on territory of another so I'm strongly against Russian invasion but...

how is this invasion different to what America is doing last 20+ years in middle east. How can they on one hand distrupt peace in all continents around the world in last 40 years mostly just because of their benefits and still act so stupid like they are saints against Russia. And other NATO countries including mine is in same water taking part in NATO missions and now acting like angels.
And all western media and citizens are playing this game. I like the outcry about Russian invasion because what are they done, even if heavily provoked, is not right, but why there are no outcry when USA and NATO is invading?

There are possibly some comparisons to Bush's war in Iraq, yes. i.e. false pretexts.

I would say that *some* action in Afghanistan was possibly justifiable to try and smash the Taliban and Al-Quaeda after 9/11. But we made a hell of a mess of it.

But don't forget, there was outrage when the UK/USA invaded Iraq. Not so much from other western governments, but domestically, we saw some of the biggest anti-war protests in history as a result.
 
humans are so worthless overall. Fighting over literally inconceivably small pieces of land when you consider the vastness of the universe and everything out there.

Not to worry mate, climate change will get us soon enough and the planet will right itself in a blink of an eye on geological timescales (about 100,000-200,000 years) and life will move on without us. :)
 
Thank you.

Also weapons-grade plutonium doesn't come from energy reactors, rather from their own specific process. A country could make weapons-grade material without a civilian energy program.
Yes, but not a permanent member of the UN Security Council. I await your refutation.
 
I don't support invasion of any country on territory of another so I'm strongly against Russian invasion but...

how is this invasion different to what America is doing last 20+ years in middle east. How can they on one hand distrupt peace in all continents around the world in last 40 years mostly just because of their benefits and still act so stupid like they are saints against Russia. And other NATO countries including mine is in same water taking part in NATO missions and now acting like angels.
And all western media and citizens are playing this game. I like the outcry about Russian invasion because what are they done, even if heavily provoked, is not right, but why there are no outcry when USA and NATO is invading?

Isn't this a topic for another day or maybe at least another thread?
 
I don't support invasion of any country on territory of another so I'm strongly against Russian invasion but...

how is this invasion different to what America is doing last 20+ years in middle east. How can they on one hand distrupt peace in all continents around the world in last 40 years mostly just because of their benefits and still act so stupid like they are saints against Russia. And other NATO countries including mine is in same water taking part in NATO missions and now acting like angels.
And all western media and citizens are playing this game. I like the outcry about Russian invasion because what are they done, even if heavily provoked, is not right, but why there are no outcry when USA and NATO is invading?
Please. I'm curious. What has NATO ever done that come close to what is happening now? I need to be educated and I don't want to research the answer myself.