For sure, I was just mentioning the origin story of his beef with germany.
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Look, Germany has done the worst crimes in Europe, ever. Not USA, not France, not UK, it was Germany who did the killing in Europe. To redeem itself, doing nothing, or doing very little, or doing whatever everyone else is doing, doesn't cut it. To redeem itself, Germany should do something huge, something really positive, like solving a huge problem someone else has, like really help Ukraine win against Russia. Germany is the biggest economy in Europe, Germany alone should help Ukraine win, without USA, without UK, without France, without Poland. Germany is the leader of Europe today, they should feel responsible and try to solve the problem. Alone if need to be. It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing, they don't have the same responsibilities, they don't have the same HISTORY behind them. Germany is not in the same position as anyone else.
Merkel was the leader of Germany for 16 years, she refused to accept Ukraine in NATO and EU, she called Ukraine corrupt. Russia is more corrupt than Ukraine but Merkel did not go around calling Putin's Russia corrupt, she had no problem doing business with Putin, while Putin was killing the opposition. This should be an extra motivation for Germany to go out of their way and SOLVE the Ukraine problem. But for me, the WW2 massacres should be enough motivation for Germans to solve a European problem. Alone. Like really solve it. Not just wait and see what someone else will do.
This is a great way to alienate Germans. This kind of rhetoric doesn't help anyone (in my opinion anyway).
I really cannot understand Germans. You see Putin invading Ukraine for no other good reason than Russia being much stronger than Ukraine. Doesn't it remind you of Hitler invading Poland? It is exactly the same situation!
Doesn't anyone in Germany think: " We did the same shit in 1939. Now we are going to solve this shit in 2024. Like the Americans got rid of Hitler in WW2, we'll get rid of Putin. We have the responsibility to be on the right side of history for once. We are the richest and the strongest country in Europe, this war is happening in Europe, we are going to solve it. It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing, we have the responsibility to do the right thing, because we have done the same shit ourselves in the past. It's time to redeem ourselves. "
Doesn't anyone in Germany think: " We did the same shit in 1939. Now we are going to solve this shit in 2024. Like the Americans got rid of Hitler in WW2, we'll get rid of Putin. We have the responsibility to be on the right side of history for once. We are the richest and the strongest country in Europe, this war is happening in Europe, we are going to solve it. It doesn't matter what everyone else is doing, we have the responsibility to do the right thing, because we have done the same shit ourselves in the past. It's time to redeem ourselves. "
I am just an anonymous guy on the internet. The Germans will not change anything because I wrote something. They should think about these issues and do the right thing on their own. It doesn't matter what I or you or anyone else is posting on redcafe.
I think all European powers have to care their share of crimes. You can't only take WW2 and forget about the atrocities committed in the colonies. Belgien alone killed over 10 million in Kongo.....
You can't be serious. Germany doesn't have any nuclear weapons. The Bundeswehr has been run down for 30 years. It can't even be called an army. Ammunition doesn't last for a day.
All federal governments since 1990 thought there is no more thread in Europe after the fall of the iron curtain. Thus a strong military isn't needed anymore. Throwing just money on the Russian soldiers won't kill any of them. If it were that easy, I'm sure the West would have done it already.
By the way Germany is already the second highest donor after the US by a distance but I'm sure you know that.
Merkel wasn't alone, it was Merkel and Sarkozy who were against Ukraine joining NATO. I'm with you that this was an huge mistake in hindsight.
To become a member of the EU, countries have to fulfill certain conditions and the Ukraine didn't say the time.
I agree the "change through trade" policy was an immense failure (in hindsight) but Germany paid dearly for this political mistake. Our economy is in tatters and many industries aren't competitive anymore due to 4 to 5 times higher energy costs than the competition in the US or China. Deindustrialization is happening.
The whole West isn't able to solve the Ukraine problem and you suggest Germany is doing it now alone? Would love to hear your ideas how Germany could achieve it.
The big problem is that the whole sanction package doesn't work, if 2/3 of the world doesn't partake. The harsh reality is that the West stands pretty alone.
You really don't like Germans do you!
Are historical acts only relevant if it was the 20th or 21st century because some of the countries you named are responsible for lots killing in Europe and elsewhere
Do you seriously think that Germany alone could resolve this, if you really think that then IMO you are beyond naive.
Because Germany is no position to do so.
Give us the army of 1939 and take the nukes away from Russia and you might have a point.
But just demanding Germany to go to war with Russia is just naive and suicidal.
What a bunch of crap.
Spain plundered Latinamerica, phillipines and others for centuries. Britain did the same, so Belgium, netherlands and france, so Rome and many other regions and countries. They had its own share of raping, mass killing and stealing.
Greece? one of the WORSE in history.
Having new generations of germans that have nothing to do with WWII accountable of its history is beyond stupid.
I'm offended you left portugal out. We came up with the atlantic slave trade, we deserve some credit.
Portugal is spain-lite, even colonizing.
I suspect the people of Goa and Brazil amonst others might disagree
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Don't worry. I am sure that brazilians spoke extensively with their colleagues from Argentina, Chile, paraguai, Peru, Bolivia, colombia, ecuador, venezuela, panama, costa rica, nicaragua, honduras, el salvador, guatemala mexico, cuba, dominican republic and others. Goa...maybe with phillipines.
The Spain-lite is just a joke due to size. Portugal fecked up a lot of regions. Including mozambique, Angola and a few more in africa. And for the size of the country did a lot of harm, like belgium and netherlands.
The joke is that portugal shares the iberian peninsule with spain, and culturaly speaking we are decently. But they are smaller in size and they colonized less than Spain
And now that I explain the joke, is not funny anymore. but as you said, was never funny for the colonies
Yeah I know, I'm a Brit so every one is 'lite' compared to us!
A strange audio given that it doesn't really benefit the Russian side to publish something so obvious - that Ukraine is getting weapons from NATO countries that could destroy Russian targets.
I guess the real story here is German generals using an unsecured line, according to Der Spiegel.
Ahh ok. Makes sense. The Generals will no doubt have to deal with the blowback of talking about sensitive topics on an unsecure line.
Weirdly enough looks like it's a genuine intercept? Not something that I expected when I saw that it was Simonyan who published it first.
I think the German Defense Ministry has said they believe it's real.
Not sure this is going down well with Chinese lawmakers when it is basically an admission of total failure by the Kremlin.
Russia Wants Its Old Aircraft Carrier Back from China
Russia Wants Its Old Aircraft Carrier Back from China
Do you ever actually read the 'articles' you post? A single "Russian lawmaker" from an irrelevant party making some random comment about a ship (nowhere is he even quoted as saying Russia wants it back) to God-only-knows-who is not "the Kremlin". Piss-poor media literacy yet again, but hey, it allowed the "Russian military is on its knees" laughing emojis to be broken out again.Not sure this is going down well with Chinese lawmakers when it is basically an admission of total failure by the Kremlin.
Russia Wants Its Old Aircraft Carrier Back from China
And how many of these missiles have Ukraine got?
Ukraine hasn't received Taurus from Germany. So 0.
None.
Germany refused to give them (until now) to Ukraine because it would be a direct escalation of the conflict to Scholz's eyes.
It's still weird, at least to me, that the Russian published this. The intercepted telco between 4 high ranking air force officers doesn't contain any dramatic news. Germany is discussing the delivery off the Taurus cruise missile system for months now.
So why did Russia publish it anyway? To humiliate Scholz? Would be pretty stupid as he is key person who blocks the delivery off Taurus so far. Now the whole world knows there aren't German soldier needed to program. The leak will only put more pressure on Scholz to eventually deliver Taurus to the Ukraine.
Worse Germany is now warned and aware that Russia is listening and will take counter measures.
I read a few articles speculating the leak actually doesn't come from Russia but from an allied country who gave to the Russian bloggers.
While the is no proof for it, it would make much more sense to me as I see no benefit for Russia to leak the intercept.
"There is no strategy,” said a third European diplomat. “Things are just happening. Later on, it’s easy to say there was a strategy, this was all part of a plan. But that has never been the case.” A fourth diplomat concurred. “There are slogans — ‘As long as it takes,’ ‘Russia cannot win,’ this kind of thing. But what does any of this really mean? They are things that people say. What matters is what they do.”
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-war-russia-why-west-is-losing/
Yes, it was a stupid move by the Russians to publish it and shows the how weak insecure late stage Putin is, where he feels compelled to put out a phone call for a short term propaganda win, while in the process losing his ability to continue monitoring German comms because the Germans will now tighten up how the communicate. The missiles will probably eventually get to Ukraine anyway, so all things said, a terrible move by Putin.
I‘m not sure about the missiles. Scholz seems determined to hold them back. To a degree where I’m seriously starting to wonder what the actual reasons might be. I don’t trust the man in the slightest.
What would his logic of holding them back be ? That he's concerned the Ukrainians will use them to strike within Russia itself (as opposed to Crimea) ?
Something like this. He claims it might make us an active participant in the war, never explaining the huge difference between these damn missiles and everything else we have sent them.
His party, the SPD, has a Russia issue in general (they were responsible for Nordstream and of course are the party of Schröder). And the left wing within the party sees itself as pacifist which to them seems to mean standing idly by while Ukraine gets annihilated.
This doesn't seem to be any different to the US refusing to supply certain types of weaponry
The fear in the West is that if they supply weapons with the capability, to say attack Moscow, there will be a big escalation if Ukraine actually used them for that purpose, if I was Ukrainian with the capability of bombing the Kremlin I'd likely be pulling the trigger
I don't know anything about these specific missiles but that is possibly the reasoning
I think having the weapons makes sense from the perspective of hitting Russian targets in and around Crimea and Donbass. The bridge the generals discussed would of course be priority number 1 since its Putin's pride and joy and would be a proper punch in the nose to his totalitarian ambitions if it gets taken down.
Sure, I don't know what the capability of these missiles are, if they could also blow up the bridges in Moscow I can see why giving that capability might be problematic is my real point,
The most weird thing about the leak is Putin actually playing into the hands of the politicians who demand the delivery of the Taurus system to Ukraine.
The recording clearly proofs Scholz's reasoning wrong. There are no German soldiers needed to program the missiles.
I don't understand Scholz's extreme caution to never do anything which Putin could consider as an active participation in the war, because Putin and Medvedev both stated already several time that Russia is in war with the West.
In Scholz' mind, what makes Taurus more escalatory than F-16's? Or Patriots? Or HIMARS? Or Abrams/Leopard/Challenger tanks? ATACMS?
I don't think there is anything to understand there, really. To me it really feels like a complete lie. But what he's hiding, I have no idea.
But what I'm hearing from people involved with the SPD on a local level, there really is quite some pressure from the party's left wing trying to stop support for Ukraine, because they think that is what pacifism is.