Kaos
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Yeah this Prigozhin fella is going to spend the rest of his days looking over his shoulder now.
Yeah this Prigozhin fella is going to spend the rest of his days looking over his shoulder now.
The total chaos happened because of the guy, though. If he is gone and becomes irrelevant, their troops will be more organized and unified in that sense. Most of the main competent members of Wagner group were never fighting in UA. They are in the Africa trying to enrich themselves.Certainly it is a win, surely you can see that, none of this is good for Russia.
It signals Wagner group having less involvement overall in Ukraine, even if Russia will have some of them in the army to fight in Ukraine, also, the total chaos here has given Ukraine momentum.
Of course it is a win.
The total chaos happened because of the guy, though. If he is gone and becomes irrelevant, their troops will be more organized and unified in that sense. Most of the main competent members of Wagner group were never fighting in UA. They are in the Africa trying to enrich themselves.
Putin and Russia have seemed weak and not good since a couple of months after the invasion. It is nothing new. Putin getting taken out would have given the UA big momentum. This one is probably not much for them, if any.
Now, one of the actors is out. Is that better or worse for Russia's functionality during the war time?The total chaos happened because Russia is a mess.
Now, one of the actors are out. Is that better or worse for Russia?
The total chaos happened because of the guy, though. If he is gone and becomes irrelevant, their troops will be more organized and unified in that sense. Most of the main competent members of Wagner group were never fighting in UA. They are in the Africa trying to enrich themselves.
Putin and Russia have seemed weak and not good since a couple of months after the invasion. It is nothing new. Putin getting taken out would have given the UA big momentum. This one is probably not much for them, if any.
I mean nothing is that simple in this war. I was hoping everyone would figure that out at this point. Apparently, not.Of course this gives Ukraine momentum, to say anything else is nonsense.
It's the Russian military and government. Held together with very old sticky tape, just like their weaponry.That’s it?
Something feels off. Weird ending after the last 24hrs.
I mean nothing is that simple in this war. I was hoping everyone would figure that out at this point. Apparently, not.
Holy sh*t, you are spinning that I think it is a win for RA. Imagine that.Imagine trying to spin this as a win for Russia, holy shit, but whatever, you do you, i guess.
Holy sh*t, you are spinning that I think it is a win for RA. Imagine that.
You sure? Everyone has been saying that they have been a mess since last year.Russia remains a mess. And now everyone knows that.
Holy sh*t, you are spinning that I think it is a win for RA. Imagine that.
I am not going to argue about the RA winning or losing here.Its a loss for RA, simple as that.
Wagnerök ? More like Pussy Riot.
In term of how the battle is going in UA? I think it will be a loss for them once or after the UA troops capturing some more key territories.So, you think it is a loss for Russia after all?
I am not going to argue about the RA winning or losing here.
I was just pointing out that I may not necessarily disagree that what happened was a 'win' for UA. Probably mainly explaining myself to lower my own expectations in case the UA does not gain much in the next few days.
Yes, sure, but what's the point in having them there in the first place. Deterrence, surely.Russia claims to have stationed nuclear weapons there, but as far as I know they aren’t in Belarus’s control. It’s just a stage for Russia to launch them from.
I mean, we are all speculating here. Does not make your point more reasonable than others, or I can't disagree with it.Dude, Wagner literally delayed Russian supply-lines in their offensive against Ukraine, even for just a couple of days, what is there to argue?
You can say it isn't as much as you wanted, but this factor, along with others mentioned, makes it a win for Ukraine.
Can't bother to talk about this anymore, so have a good evening/night.
Not really, Wagner occupied Rostov and also mined the main supply routes during their advance.I mean, we are all speculating here. Does not make your point more reasonable than others, or I can't disagree with it.
Yeah, based on a couple of videos. Did you know how many mines they put on what routes for how many miles, etc.?Not really, Wagner occupied Rostov and also mined the main supply routes during their advance.
From this is staged by Ukraine to Prigozhin supreme leader of Belarus, you are doing quite well in the imagination departmentAnother random theory, has Putin promised Belarus to Prigozhin?
Was this part of the plan?
Was this part of the plan?
That happened a week ago no?
A suggestion from a friend of mine, is it possible that they had his family captive?Another random theory, has Putin promised Belarus to Prigozhin?
I mentioned this here, I think its possible. However, if you are going to do smth like this I'd have thought first thing is to fly your family somewhere safe.A suggestion from a friend of mine, is it possible that they had his family captive?