Also true, but I very much doubt they'd be given to Ukraine right now and publicised.
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It could be that the technology has been built into the latest version of the Patriot. After all, what good are they if there are missiles they can't defend against.
They can't defend against icbms either but that doesn't mean they are useless against 98% of all other aerial threats.
I guess so, but also an ICBM cannot change their trajectory during the flight (right)?
Yep, agreed. Russia has lost around a third of their ka-52 attack helicopters. By the time this war ends that could easily turn into two thirds. And most of them were lost to fairly basic western kit. How many buyers are going to spend £25m a pop on these badboys, when a javelin or a NLAW costing 30k can destroy it (and the pilot) in seconds.
Not in the terminal phase , no. Before that it can slightly depending on the delivery method.
There's been credible reporting in the past that the Patriot batteries had a success rate in the twenties percentage wise...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/28/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere/
Probably the US is doing the anti-Apple: instead of just changing the name of each device and selling it as a new model, change significantly the model but don't change the name of the model.
More seriously, I assume that the Patriot battery system, despite based on decades-old technology, is nowadays much more advanced than in the nineties?
Yeah but in this case we're talking about relatively low altitude missiles that are launched geographically close to their intended targets, which is what Ukrainians (and their suppliers of military hardware) are set up to defend against. If the hypersonics had to go into Space to reach a target half way across the globe it would be a different story.
This is the article I was referring to.
Storm Shadow, now SCALP.
Names sound like Transformers.
Names sound like Transformers.
In fairness the American extreme right wing also say similar stuff. I have no problem with socialism, it's entirely logical to me, but this guy is spouting crap that has nothing to do with it. Some people are so adamantly anti-American, anti-capitalist, that they will take any chance they can get to denigrate it.
I've been impressed with Germany and France lately, they dragged their feet for a while but stepping up lately. Late is better than never.
Let's hope he has finally wised up about any delusions of being the magical interlocutor of negotiations.
They would be an upgrade on Ukraines current attack/fighter planes but wont be able to do anything game changing would be my short answer.
Compared to the SU-27 and the Mig-29 which the Ukrainian air force is currently using the F16 have a better radar that would allow them to use long range air to air misiles like the AIM-120 AMRAAM which are already being donated to Ukraine for use by the NASAMS ground based air defense system.
This would give them a better chance to go up against Russian MIG-31 and the various Sukhoi fighters who right now using their long range missiles and better radars can target the Ukrainian planes long before the Ukrainians are even able to see them on their radars. The Russian R-37 air to air missile still outranges any western missile but it would at least level the playingfield a bit.
It would also open up the possibility for more advanced ground attack munitions being donated like the AGM-154 glide bomb and the AGM-158 cruise missile.
On the other side is the fact that these are old airframes with a large radar cross section that the Russian radars, both ground based and airborne would be able to detect and engage at large distances.
Another thing to consider is that a F16 in the Ukrainian air force doesn't have the same capabilities compared to a US airforce one. When the US airforce fly these they are backed up by AWACS and electrical warfare planes neither of which are available to the Ukrainians.
He is even afraid of Putin's fart and Putin preys on it. Until this day I still don't remember him saying Russia must lose this war. All he ever manages to say is, they must not win and Putin must not be humiliated. Maybe I'm wrong here and someone can give me a quote.
And I'm pretty sure that other countries initiated and pressured the needs of missiles and pilot training. Macron could have objected it of course, but that would've put him back on Putin's lap again.
Pretty certain people were saying they are too complex to use without proper training, a training which they received.
Btw, soviet SAM are even more complex to use, in terms of workload. A completely different type of complexity .
Leave no helmet behind.
Some good actions out of France in the last days. Maybe Macron can grow a spine afterall. Let's see.
Another system able to intercept ballistic missiles arrived in Ukraine.
Casualties, surely, not deaths.
Yeah, I was wondering about it earlier. The RA said they destroyed it or something, and I thought it must have hit somehow.
On the battlefield, the UA controls only a tiny area of the Bakhmut. I wonder how UA will deal with it. It would be great if the RA got encircled inside the city. They wanted it so much. Let them stay inside for a few weeks.
Bucha, 1 year apart....
It's surprising how more than a year later there is still confusion about those numbers, even on Reddit they are debating it.
Some Ukrainian media have specifically used the word "killed" in English translation but no one surely buys that those are KIA numbers.
Most likely they are total casualties.
Party at the front...war crimes at the back!
Bucha, 1 year apart....
which is which?
The bottom pic is now, I believe?
To think Russian tanks were in Kiev outskirts last year...
Yeah. Just wanted to show how people rebuilt this place in just a year.
It will take a while for psychological scars to be healed, but it is very impressive to see how much has been done to rebuild the area from the destruction it faced a year ago.Bucha, 1 year apart....
I hope so