Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Russian sources claim a different scenario. Not friendly fire like speculated here, but they claim or fear that Ukraine got AIM-120 long range air to air missiles, and they speculate that possibly the Polish MiG-29 were modified to carry them.

And actually I think that is a quite reasonable scenario, it would explain the timing (Ukraine just got those MiGs) and the range quite well.

If true that gives Ukraine at least a limited ability to control the airspace that they so far didn't have.
I guess that might be possible but it would probably mean retrofitting the Migs with a new western radar because I doubt it's even possible to get the AMRAAMs to comunicate with the soviet radar in the Migs.
 
This is kinda big, isn't that directly going against Putin?

As far as I know, his rants were never aimed at Putin. Always at the MOD (Shoigu and Gerasimov). I think Putin is the only one Prigozhin truly fears, because even his alleged FSB contacts won't be able to save him from Putin.
But it's one thing insulting the MOD, calling it a stupid war and hinting a rebellion could be very dangerous for him, provided it's not just another show.

edit: considerable achievements if you take in consideration that the real counteroffensive hasn't even started yet.
 
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What a joyful fella. I hope he is a unique one with these ideas in Russia, but i doubt it unfortunately.

This war has gotten so out of hand for Russia. Do they really know what the point of this war is anymore now they couldn't walk in the door and be welcomed with open arms to make Ukraine their puppet state?
Too much pride to back down now i guess.
 
Is that good or bad for Ukraine ( ie a Russian depot in occupied Ukraine or a Ukrainian depot with gifted munitions?)

if the latter that is a fecking kick in the teeth and millions of £$€ of munitions for tanks etc gifted

According to preliminary info on Twitter, it appears to be a Russian strike on a Ukrainian depot.
 
According to preliminary info on Twitter, it appears to be a Russian strike on a Ukrainian depot.
That’s the stuff if it were a hit by Ukraine on Russia would be all over the news but not something they want the west to know the millions donated just got blown to shite.
Looks like a massive hit by russia unfortunately
 
Is that good or bad for Ukraine ( ie a Russian depot in occupied Ukraine or a Ukrainian depot with gifted munitions?)

if the latter that is a fecking kick in the teeth and millions of £$€ of munitions for tanks etc gifted
I think its on the Ukraine controlled part, but you can't know what exactly was in it.
 
That’s the stuff if it were a hit by Ukraine on Russia would be all over the news but not something they want the west to know the millions donated just got blown to shite.
Looks like a massive hit by russia unfortunately
:lol: talk about overreacting. It is fecking war, both sides will hit stuff.
 
Is that good or bad for Ukraine ( ie a Russian depot in occupied Ukraine or a Ukrainian depot with gifted munitions?)

if the latter that is a fecking kick in the teeth and millions of £$€ of munitions for tanks etc gifted
It's in central Ukraine far from the front. Russian sources say it's a ammunition depot but I have doubts about that, from the video the explosion looks more like some type of fuel or chemical depot.
 
That’s the stuff if it were a hit by Ukraine on Russia would be all over the news but not something they want the west to know the millions donated just got blown to shite.
Looks like a massive hit by russia unfortunately

These things happen in war though, im sure its not the first time. Question is how did the Russians get the intelligence on whatever that is.
 
:lol: talk about overreacting. It is fecking war, both sides will hit stuff.
Wtf, really - All I said was if it were Ukraine hitting this, it would be all over the news - heck, we see posts of Russians fleeing a bunker and it makes news but the first I’ve read about this is on the caf. I’m not saying anything about it being the end of the war or the tide has turned etc. there’s no over reaction in my post other than your reply
 
Wtf, really - All I said was if it were Ukraine hitting this, it would be all over the news - heck, we see posts of Russians fleeing a bunker and it makes news but the first I’ve read about this is on the caf. I’m not saying anything about it being the end of the war or the tide has turned etc. there’s no over reaction in my post other than your reply
Your overreaction is in immediately assuming it was Western-donated stuff that got blown up. It could very well be but we don't know that yet.
 
The attack was real, the video apparently wasn't. All over Twitter that it is footage from Iran from over a year ago.
 
Looks like the AFU advances further north and south of Bakhmut and mskes some other small gains as well. Still not a large scale offensive, but nice nonetheless.
 
What if there are no large scale offensive plans, just talk about it to scare and confuse the Russians?
Maybe the real offensive is lots of little attacks in many areas to gain back ground?
 
The status quo doesn't work for Ukraine, so they definitely do have plans for large scale offensives.
He didn't claim it did, but the question on the the scale of offensive operations is interesting. Doing lots of small, tactically succesful attacks without ever launching a truly large scale attack would gain ground, would confuse the Russians and most importantly could probably be made with less losses than large scale frontal attacks.

I think both of you are right - we see a lot of small operations right now to get tactical wins and to probe the Russians, and at some point we will see larger scale operations.
 
Eh, I guess. I tend to think that doing lots of small, tactically successful attacks to gain ground is a large scale offensive. Or at least close enough where it doesn't really make any difference.
 
He didn't claim it did, but the question on the the scale of offensive operations is interesting. Doing lots of small, tactically succesful attacks without ever launching a truly large scale attack would gain ground, would confuse the Russians and most importantly could probably be made with less losses than large scale frontal attacks.

I think both of you are right - we see a lot of small operations right now to get tactical wins and to probe the Russians, and at some point we will see larger scale operations.

It looks like the smarter move IMO. Right now the RA is between a rock and a hard place regarding Bahkmut. If they don't send reinforcements there they risk losing the city they were gambling the most on and get a lot of political backlash. However, if they send them, they risk weakening other important battlefronts, most of which are candidates for a UA general offensive (Dnieper river East bank, Zaporzhizhia/Melitopol, the road to Mariupol/Berdiansk, Kreminna/Svatove and even other parts of Luhansk).

One of the things Ukraine has been doing right is keep Russia ignorant about their planned initiatives. Let's hope they keep doing that.
 
They’ll be unearthing bodies for a decade…


Much much longer. The current war is fought where WW2 was fought as well and sometimes while digging trenches they unearth bodies from that war, 80 years ago.