Isn't there a punishment on using the word "war"?
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Ahaha this guy in the second video blaming Ukraine for hitting a civilian building while the ammo is still cooking off hard in the background.
They’re really shameless.
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I think this one or at least some version of this drone are equiped for radar jamming, it would make perfect sense to have one of these fly alongside any cruise missile like the Storm Shadow to jam the enemy radars. This also makes me wonder what other EW systems have been given to Ukraine that we don't know about yet. Very interesting.
Russians getting their own medicine right now in Bakhmut.
I think this is an older interview with Zaluzhny but still interesting to hear him say it like this:
I am surprised they didnt claim to target the patriot missile itself with the Kinzhal. Would be the first successful takedown ot a patriot missile.
Prigozhin openly claiming his troops are firing on retreating RuAF.
Just a matter of time now, Ukraine is taking back everything.
Just a matter of time now, Ukraine is taking back everything.
I’d no idea that NATO had these. Even at $300k each you can really see the value in them.
If this is true that Ukr has them in large quantities then the Russians could be fecked good and proper.
I think the Ukrainians have a lot of new stuff in the arsenal right now since a lot of the training their troops have been doing on brand new systems is just now reaching fruition in the lead up to the counter offensive.
I think the US airforce and Navy are the only users of these decoys, they haven't been exported to any other country yet. So yes NATO have them but only through the US.
The Drive has an article up on this subject now with a little more information.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ure-air-launched-decoy-use-by-ukraine-emerges
Apperantly the photos posted are of an older version of the ADM-160 without any jamming capabilities, this fits well in with how the US has provided mainly older or even phased out stuff when it comes to the more advanced equipment.
Even if it is the older versions it will be very interesting to see how effective these are in suppressing Russian AA capabilities, in a potential conflict between the US and Russia these types of decoys would probably be the first to enter enemy airspace.
Is the idea that they'll waste ammunition shooting at it?
Russia has enough ammunition. The real goal is getting their AA's focus and let the cruise missile through. It acts like a shield to the CM. In Luhansk it worked perfectly as we can see. The cruise missile hit was bullseye.
If i understood well what @the hea said that can mimic any aircraft it might be used also for fake aircraft sorties pulling russian aircraft out to intercept creating a diversion? And then maybe destroy them with a prepared AA?
There are multiple uses for decoys like this and forcing the enemy to use expensive ammunition on it like you mention is one of those purposes. Another way it can be used and what might be the case here is to take the focus of the enemy AA operators away from the actual real threat. Since it can mimic the radar echo of a wide range of aircrafts it will show up as a big threat to the air defense operators which forces them to focus their attention on it while a low flying, low observable cruise missile for example would have an easier time sneeking in from another direction.
Another use is that it forces the enemy to give away the location of their air defense radars which can then be engaged. It's predecessor the AGM-141 was used for this purpose at the start of the Persian Gulf War, coalition forces fired hundreds of decoys ahead of their aircrafts into Iraqi airspace which forced the Iraqis to turn on their AA radars which where then be engaged by anti radiation missiles fired by the coalition airforces. This proved to be a very succesful tactic back then and took out a large part of the Iraqi air defenses.
The 4th part of the cyclops position:
Germany woken up and with the bang:
Great to see that kind of support from Germany.
Giving the Defence Minister job to Pistorius was probably the best thing Scholz ever did. Luckily Pistorius doesn't care about Scholz' more cautious rhetoric and just gets on with it (as well as with the changes of the Bundeswehr administration structure, which are overdue for decades)
Does Pistorius has this kind of power though to go over Scholz? and anyway he appointed Pistorius
Amazing change or rumb from Germany. better late than never
Formally Scholz has the last word, after all he is the chancellor. But Pistorius is openly having different points of view and dares to have independent thoughts, and he is trying to get things done. We didn't saw any of this from Lambrecht.
Fine details like Scholz saying "Russia must not win" and Pistorius saying "Russia must lose and a world without Putin would be better place"
And about getting things done, a few weeks ago he for example issued an order of three pages that effectively overrules thousands of pages of regulations inside his own administration, as well as laying of loads of leading staff. No minister of defence dared to do that probably ever, definitely not in the last decades.
There is a reason why Pistorius is currently the most popular politician in Germany and some media already have fun speculating if he might be interested in becoming chancellor himself (and more importantly if he might be able to take that from Scholz)
The IRIS-T SLS launchers are an intersting point. They will obviously be distributed over the existing and to be delivered IRIS-T SLM batteries as they have to be connected to some kind of control system.
They won't add new capabilities as they are a shorter range system, but what makes them extremely valuable is the fact that the fire the standard IRIS-T missile, which is the default armament for the Eurofighter. There will be loads of these available and they will be used whenever possible, because the larger SLM version is only produced for Ukraine and there is no stock available because all production directly goes there.
Numbers matter, and this will greatly increase the numbers of aircraft and cruise missiles Ukraine can intercept in the long run, Russia will have it mich harder than they already have to just overload Ukrainian air defense.
Really hope this is the start of something.
Depends on who uses it. They've been talking about "the war" for quite a while now, trying to distinguish the "special military operation" that was started by Russia and the "war" that was started by NATO against Russia after the invasion (or maybe even before)... damn it's even hard to describe it coherently, how in the world do people believe in this nonsense.
Russia doing Russian things, looks like a chopper & a jet shot down at the same time.
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So that one cruise missile frightened them so much, that they've started shooting everything in the sky now?
edit: seems so
edit: seems so
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Can't be fun being a Russian civilian pilot these days. You might get randomly mobilised or your own air defence can shoot you down if someone can't read a radar screen.
I can understand if a fighter jet is mistaken for a cruise missile but a helicopter? A helicopter is traveling at much lower speeds compared to a missile or fighter jet that it should not be possible.
Russian sources claim a different scenario. Not friendly fire like speculated here, but they claim or fear that Ukraine got AIM-120 long range air to air missiles, and they speculate that possibly the Polish MiG-29 were modified to carry them.
And actually I think that is a quite reasonable scenario, it would explain the timing (Ukraine just got those MiGs) and the range quite well.
If true that gives Ukraine at least a limited ability to control the airspace that they so far didn't have.
My money is still on Russia doing it themselves.