Rugby world cup

Just my 2 cents, but South Africa aren't quite as shit as I was expecting them to be after the Tri-Nations. Quietly building some confidence this side, plus our Rugby boys tend not to bottle it when shit gets tough, whereas the All Blacks are bit like the SA cricket team in big competitions...
 
France were abysmal today, totally rolled over. Wtf is all this nonsense about losing and having an easier route to the final, the last 8 and especially the last 4 will all be quality teams and all hard matches. If France lost today because of that reason, I hope they make an early exit.
 
TheGame said:
France were abysmal today, totally rolled over. Wtf is all this nonsense about losing and having an easier route to the final, the last 8 and especially the last 4 will all be quality teams and all hard matches. If France lost today because of that reason, I hope they make an early exit.
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Because it's either Ireland/Wales or South Africa/Australia in the Semi. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to realise which is the easier path.
 
Just tuned into the Irish game, no less than what i expected so far
 
It is looking likely that the winner of England versus Ireland (semi final) will play in the final - and subsequently get hammered by 50 against New Zealand.
 
That Scottish player who scored the drop goal when Scotland had a penalty advantage 5 metres from the Argentine line should be shot.

He literally kicked his own team out of the world cup, and then ran off celebrating.

What is it with the British nations and being complete thickos when it comes to drop goals?
 
Drop goals should carry two points maximum. It's ridiculous that two lucky dinks can count for more than a try.
 
Suck my hairy scottish balls marcos.

I thought the writing was on the wall when we ground our way past Romania while England and the Argies pummelled them.
 
Nearco said:
Drop goals should carry two points maximum. It's ridiculous that two lucky dinks can count for more than a try.
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Agreed. It's also destroying the amount of attacking rugby one team will perform as a direct consequence of the point you just made.
 
noodlehair said:
That Scottish player who scored the drop goal when Scotland had a penalty advantage 5 metres from the Argentine line should be shot.

He literally kicked his own team out of the world cup, and then ran off celebrating.

What is it with the British nations and being complete thickos when it comes to drop goals?
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what a game though ...
 
Okay...I'm an idiot.

But how exactly are the points worked out in the tables?
 
Neutral said:
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Nah, it's easy enough to get confused...

4 points for a win
2 for a draw
1 bonus point for scoring 4 or more tries
1 bonus point for losing by 7 points or less
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Cheers - makes sense now :)

That's an interesting rule - wonder how something similar might affect football
 
Spoony Youngblood said:
Are Wales still shite at this game? Rednev reckons they used to be good. Clearly bollocks.
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Our record breaking 81-7 victory today suggests otherwise. The World Cup is practically in the bag, as far as I'm concerned. And we're doing it in such a characteristically stylish manner, too. Wales is the Barcelona of rugby union.
 
Straight shootout between Ireland and Italy on Sunday. A much more nail biting scenario than I anticipated after we beat Australia.

Crazy that we can beat Australia, win all our other games and still be on the verge of going out. I guess this demonstrates the value of picking up the bonus points….
 
Rooney24 said:
Straight shootout between Ireland and Italy on Sunday. A much more nail biting scenario than I anticipated after we beat Australia.

Crazy that we can beat Australia, win all our other games and still be on the verge of going out. I guess this demonstrates the value of picking up the bonus points….
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Meh...Your lot will beat the Italians pretty handily.
 
Rugby World Cup costs millions and must change

The future of the Rugby World Cup will come under threat unless fundamental changes ensure leading nations do not lose millions in revenue at the 2015 tournament in England, according to the head of the New Zealand Rugby Union.

Steve Tew, the NZRU chief executive, has warned that competing at the World Cup has cost his union more than NZ$13m (£7m), a loss it could ill afford at a time when player costs were rising and the world economy was stagnating. Incoming tours are halted in a World Cup year and competing nations are not allowed to have any association with their sponsors for the duration of the tournament.

The International Rugby Board will by next May complete a review of how the World Cup is run. Tew said that unless changes were agreed, he feared his union, which is hosting this year's tournament, would not be able to afford to take part in the 2015 event....
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Rugby World Cup costs us millions and must change, says New Zealand | Sport | The Guardian

How the feck are they losing money in the World Cup. That should be the one time they gain millions, and its apparently not just New Zealand either (which makes sense).
 
rcoobc said:
Rugby World Cup costs us millions and must change, says New Zealand | Sport | The Guardian

How the feck are they losing money in the World Cup. That should be the one time they gain millions, and its apparently not just New Zealand either (which makes sense).
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AUSTRALIA will start a high-level campaign this week to retrieve some of the $16 million lost due to the staging of this year's World Cup.

Australian Rugby Union officials will push their case for better compensation at an International Rugby Board meeting in London, and even call for the World Cup to be staged later in the year so major rugby nations do not suffer losses every four years when the tournament is staged.

The ARU recently revealed the 10 tier-one nations would forfeit about $75 million due to the closure of the June and November Test windows this season. In its annual report, the ARU predicted it would lose about $16m in net revenue.

The tier-one nations recently sought compensation from the IRB, calling for at least $37m to be shared among them. The IRB instead agreed on $16m, or $1.6m each.

This substantial loss in income will prompt the ARU to make a special presentation at the IRB conference on the ''economics of rugby''.

Australian officials are expected to argue that as they are forced to compete in the most crowded of all rugby markets - battling against three rival domestic football codes - it is more dangerous for them to be shackled with the loss of home Tests - which are a vital revenue stream.

In a non-World Cup year, Australia has at least six high-profile home matches, compared with only two in a World Cup year.
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Hopefully this helps to explain a little bit more why teams/countries are losing money despite the 'World Cup' being on.
 
Mental. The Association Football world cup made over a Billion. It just seems crazy that the would lose money.

I can see why losing their tours is devastating, and battling against 3 football codes (Soccer, AFL and ?) is not good, but its the fecking World Cup.
 
England coaches suspended over 'ballgate'
September 29, 2011 - 4:32PM

AUCKLAND: England today suspended two staff members for this weekend's World Cup game against Scotland after they controversially swapped balls used for conversions by ace kicker Jonny Wilkinson.

Kicking coach Dave Alred and strength and conditioning staffer Paul Stridgeon were reprimanded and barred from Auckland's Eden Park stadium for Saturday's game following the incident during England's game against Romania.

The two admitted using different balls for conversions than the one used to score the tries, which is against rugby rules, during England's 67-3 win at Stadium Otago. They were warned twice by referee Romain Poite.

"Two members of the team management, David Alred and Paul Stridgeon, mistakenly thought that there was an issue with some of the match balls," said a statement from England's Rugby Football Union (RFU).

"Those team management members took it upon themselves to substitute balls during the match in contravention of both the laws of the game and the spirit of the game.

"The RFU fully accepts that the action of those team management members was incorrect and detrimental to the image of the tournament, the game and to English rugby."

World Cup organisers welcomed the "decisive and timely" move and said no further punishment would be handed out.

The incident followed an uncharacteristically wobbly start to the tournament by the usually reliable Wilkinson, who has landed just 38 percent of his penalties so far.

Read more: England coaches suspended over 'ballgate'
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England stinking up the joint with their cheating :nono:
 
Of all the teams for us to do it against, when we're smoking Romania.
 
England shouldn't be changing the ball.

However, England shouldn't NEED to change the ball, the balls should be consistent - there seems to be a problem with them at this WC and that is the bigger issue imo.
 
Looking forward to tomorrow's game

Am sure England will win, and even if they don't Scotland don't have the firepower imo to beat us by 8pts or more
 
The French choking, surrendering....whatever you want to call it.

Tonga 19 France 14

One of the biggest upsets in RWC history. To give credit to Tonga, they didn't fluke this, and if they had a better kicker, the margin would have been bigger(despite France scoring their lone try just on the final whistle)
 
New day, same England shit.

Wilkinson missing penalties and kicking the second the ball comes to the backs.

Forwards getting dominated again.
 
Oh a few yards from the line and Wilkinson decides to go for the easy drop, which he misses.
 
Good effort - deserved to win the game but didn't do quite enough to merit the 8-point victory.
 
Shocking performance. Poor decision making, poor handling, poor discipline, poor management.

Why didn't Flood come on when it became patently obvious that Wilkinson was having a stinker? No surprise that the only worthwile attacking moments came when he had a fly half who looked for the pass first before kicking. Why was Matt Stevens starting? He's been shit this whole world cup. No surprise our scrum looked much better when Corbisiero came on. Why did we keep slowing the game down and pounding it up the middle despite gaining no ground whatsoever every single time? No surprise we looked dangerous on the rare occasions that Youngs got quick ball out to the wing. The gameplan was just bizarre.

Anyway, a win's a win. Well played Scotland.
 
Justin said:
That's because we're spending millions upgrading stadia and not even selling all the tickets. Not to mention the ratepayers forking out more for "party central" and other meaningless expenses.
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Its not just New Zealand.
 
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