Rugby World Cup 2015 | Reminiscing Thread

New Zealand beat Argentina
Yep. Too damn good they are. Until they choke against France.
 
Review of the weekend: http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/09/21/rugby-world-cup-recap-winners-and-losers-from-the-weekend/

WINNERS
Minnow Nations
The first eight matches had eight mismatches of sorts, some glaring, and some less so. But still, each game had one clear favourite, with the chances of the other team ranging from “not a hope in hell” to “this might just be an upset if the stars align”.

As such, only Canada and Uruguay were resoundingly beaten, and even then there was no capitulation – both teams wore their hearts on their sleeves and could hold their heads high in defeat.

Fiji would rue a few missed kicks at goal that would have otherwise made the opening game a lot more tense, while the United States showed that they are ever-improving.

Italy were the most disappointing of the lot, as their passion during and after the national anthems suddenly evaporated after the first French penalty. But the Azzurri were just the aberration.

Argentina and Georgia showed just how much they’ve improved over the past few years, with sterling defensive displays, and while one team unfortunately ran out of steam, the other held on for a famous win. In a way, I guess it was good that the All Blacks avoided defeat, since I doubt that the internet would be able to handle two astronomical upsets within 24 hours of each other.

And that leaves us with Japan. There really isn’t much that hasn’t been said about them, and the manner in which a team that lost to the World XV a month ago took on the giants of the game is awe-inspiring.

Which leaves us with the talking point: is rugby at a crossroads? Are the minnows here to stay? What should World Rugby do to ensure that the gap between Tier 1 and Tier 2 nations is bridged?

For me, the solution is clear. If rugby is to become truly a global game, then it has to demolish the concept of Tiers. Why should the top teams be cocooned from the rest of the rugby fraternity?

Why should the Springboks wait until 2015 to be playing Japan for the first time? Why should the All Blacks have to wait until 2015 to play in Samoa for the first time? It took Argentina and Italy years of knocking at rugby’s front door to be admitted into the big leagues, and these are just two nations.

A good step would be expanding the Six Nations. Now I know that the northern hemisphere unions have a bit of a traditionalist mindset and would be averse to the idea, but having a promotion/relegation system would help the likes of Georgia, Romania, Russia and Portugal.

Similarly, getting more Test matches between the Pacific nations and nations like Argentina and the Big Three will only help their cause.

We can only hope for the best.

Ireland
Ireland get on to the winners’ list simply because of one reason; that they did their job with no fuss, and crucially, with no injuries.

An All Black victory over the Pumas means that the New Zealanders will most probably top their group, and this means that topping group D is of utmost importance (unless you want to play New Zealand in a quarter-final in Cardiff, or in other words, you’re France). And the Irish took five points when anything less would have been a disaster.

To make things better, France went on to give a totally unconvincing performance against a woeful Italy, failing to score four tries, and also getting Yoann Huget injured for good measure. You would expect Ireland to punish a similar performance from the Azzurri, although Sergio Parisse may make his return by then, and this would mean that Ireland can focus on just getting over the finish line against France in their final pool game.

Plus, Ireland came away almost unscathed from this match. Jonny Sexton was back in form after an unconvincing display at Twickenham, while Cian Healy also made his return after a neck surgery. It’s still too early to say anything, but so far so good for Joe Schmidt’s team.

All Black reserves
45 minutes or so into the game, the All Black supporters were just beginning to quiver in their seats as Argentina, leading 16-12, showed signs that they could emulate Japan in doing the unthinkable.

But then off went Ma’a Nonu and Tony Woodcock, and on came Sonny Bill Williams and Wyatt Crockett. Four minutes later went Nehe Milner-Skudder and Owen Franks, for Beauden Barrett and Charlie Faumuina. This shifted Ben Smith to the wing, with Barrett taking his place at fullback.

And the tide changed. Sonny Bill Williams was the catalyst, sparking an increase in intensity in All Black attacks, as he straightened the line and made a few great offloads, one of which should have resulted in a Milner-Skudder try in the corner. But the All Blacks brushed that aside, because they knew that Argentina were running out of energy, and they camped themselves in the Pumas half.

20 minutes of relentless attack saw them score two tries that sealed the deal, with the final one being scored by replacement Sam Cane, who was given the final pass by Sonny Bill Williams. They even bombed another try, with Kieran Read throwing a long pass out wide forward, denying Richie McCaw a 28th Test try.

The contrast in the performances in the two halves could not be greater. Would the All Blacks be better served with playing those replacements as starters in crucial games, or should they be kept as ‘impact players’ required when things aren’t going to plan? What is not up for debate, however, is that the likes of Sonny Bill Williams and Barrett have done their hopes of nailing down a first team place no harm.

LOSERS
Tonga
It was generally agreed that Pool C would see the All Blacks finish top of the pool, most likely followed by Argentina. Not many people were disputing this, but the Tongans were secretly eyeing an ambush of the Pumas, and snatching a quarter-final berth.

But for this plan to work, they would first have to dispose of the other two teams in the pool. And the first game has not gone to plan at all.

Georgia stole everyone’s hearts, if only for a few hours before Japan came in and did their job, but what they also stole was a possible quarter-final place from Tonga. Now the Islanders will have to defeat Namibia with a bonus point, before their crucial showdown against the Pumas.

You get the feeling that if they fail to win that match, they would be in serious danger of finishing fourth, and having to qualify for the 2019 edition. Not a good start. But at least they have one bonus point more than the Pumas.

Wales (and Yoann Huget)
Although the Welsh came away with an eight-try, bonus-point win over Uruguay, they also saw hat-trick hero Cory Allen hobble off with an injury, in what is becoming a worryingly familiar sight for Welsh fans.

Not just him, but also wing/fullback Liam Williams, and props Paul James and Samson Lee are also injury worries. Allen may even miss the rest of the World Cup. He would thus be joining Leigh Halfpenny, Jonathan Davies, and Gareth Anscombe among others. And it is for this reason alone that Wales come away from this round of action as losers. They also were unconvincing in their performance.

Giving Cory Allen company is his French counterpart Yoann Huget. The exciting winger did not see much of the ball in France’s win over Italy, but the one time he got a look-in, he injured his knee in the process of sidestepping an Italian defender. Seeing him utterly inconsolable and in tears on the bench was a tough sight. His World Cup is over.

The Springboks
Need I say any more?
 
Scotland v Japan tomorrow will be worth watching even more so after Japan's unbelievable win and interested to see the Wallabies get their campaign underway v Fiji.
 
Harsh yellow for Japan for the exact same offence a Scotsman committed without punishment 15 seconds before. Japan making a lot of unforced mistakes though and Laidlaw is punishing them with the boot.
 
Incredible tackle alright. Japan are being harshly treated by the worst ref in rugby here. Players lying on the floor can't form a maul - that should have been called held up and scrum 5 to Japan. The yellow card was given for a non-foul that was the exact same as the challenge the Scots made to win that same ball. Towards the end he gave Scotland a penalty for crossing/blocking and then ignored the exact same offense by the men in blue a couple of phases later.

Brilliant carrying and breakdown work/evasion from Japan though. Broadhurst at 7 and their No.12 have broken the gainline every single time. They look a really well coached outfit.
 
Japan's execution just not there today, definitely feeling fatigued.
 
Australia vs Fiji
I know a few Australian fecking complete and total fecking dickheads.

Really hope Fiji twat them, as unrealistic as that may be.

I really, really fecking hate those guys.
 
It a bit silly that some teams have to play within 4 days of when they last played.

All they needed to do was make the world cup one week longer.(Play the group stages over 5 weeks instead of 4).
 
It a bit silly that some teams have to play within 4 days of when they last played.

All they needed to do was make the world cup one week longer.(Play the group stages over 5 weeks instead of 4).
Think this will become a big point, especially after Japan folded today. Even Fiji playing Australia today (5 days later) is doing England no favours really - they'd be much more competitive with a full week between games.

But that extra week would cost the visiting fans much more money to be fair (it's 6 weeks as it is)
 
Japan played well in the first half but understandably hit a wall in the second after their Herculean effort against SA at the w'end. Think that questions will be asked about the format now though … and rightly!

Ah, such a shame. I really don't think that scorelines means Scotland are that much better than SA - a real shame for Japan.
 
Decent win for Australia but no bonus point. Puts England's performance into perspective a little, we got a BP, could be crucial
 
New Zealand vs Namibia
NZ vs Namibia kicking off in 10 minutes.

Could be the biggest scoreline of the tournament.
 
Only took Namibia to get a highlight reel performance from Sonny Bill
 
The advantage rule in Rugby is so strange, is there really no limit to the amount of play that can happen after which the advantage is null?
 
I know I should be offended by this but Australians do themselves no favours in Europe.

Brits aren't much better here though in fairness.
Its not really the fault of Australians that they end up with a bad name anywhere in the world they go. As a New Zealander we have an unwritten rule that whenever we do something nice or something of value anywhere in the world we admit to being New Zealanders, if however we have been utter bastards, create havoc or act in anyway which is offensive we make sure we loudly claim to be Australian. There are hordes of us rumbling our way through Europe causing Australians to be considered as dickheads.
 
I know I should be offended by this but Australians do themselves no favours in Europe.

Brits aren't much better here though in fairness.

I don't know about that. John Langford, Jim Williams, Alan Gaffney, Laurie Fischer, Rockey Elsom and Michael Cheika have a lot of friends in Ireland.
 
Its not really the fault of Australians that they end up with a bad name anywhere in the world they go. As a New Zealander we have an unwritten rule that whenever we do something nice or something of value anywhere in the world we admit to being New Zealanders, if however we have been utter bastards, create havoc or act in anyway which is offensive we make sure we loudly claim to be Australian. There are hordes of us rumbling our way through Europe causing Australians to be considered as dickheads.
That group of Kiwis who go to Oktoberfest every year and drink their own piss. We know your sort over here.

But I've travelled a lot in Europe and I make a point of avoiding other Australians.