How the feck wasn't that a penalty against Fickou?
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Currently you don't have to lift the ball, touching it with your hands is enough. The ref wasn't supposed to prevent Fickou from tackling.
Ah right my bad. I heard the ref warn him and assumed he was illegal but was let away with it.
The ref messed up, he warned when he shouldn't have. The same way Lucu just got clattered for touching the ball.
Whatever happens Wales were the better team tonight.
If France win a grand slam, noone will care
Some match that.
Regardless of the result it's about time we had a very good French team in the Championship again. They really are back now.
Regardless of the result it's about time we had a very good French team in the Championship again. They really are back now.
France defended very well in their own half, they had to dig in and that was a big win for them. For Wales the problem is too few ball carriers who can get over the gain line.
I will!
But seriously, it's good to win that type of games. France weren't good with the ball tonight but remained very solid defensively. I think that Wales were very good defensively and comparatively better than France with it.
What a great game,this has been a class tournament
This may be sexist but national anthems are better when it's a man singing them. Even our shambles of an away anthem
This is a red all day isn't it?
Wow.
game’s gone.
New Zealand anthem is nicely sung by women, I would also say that about France and USA's anthem but in general I prefer the men's versions.
I thought the TMO comments said it all to Raynard “I agree with the facts” … he didn’t say I agree with your decision (and I don’t like refs asking TMO to agree with them. You’re ref, your call.)
I get the responsibility is on the tackler and I know there’s a push to reduce/eliminate head injuries but for me, he doesn’t LEAD with his head, they’re two tall guys who are similar heights. Tackler is wrapping arms too.
Letter of the law, ok. My team (England aren’t), I’d be pissed
The point is it is the letter of the law. You just can't tackle like that anymore. Intent is gone out of it so it's just poor technique, given how strict the rules are on head contact.
Clear cut red card.
I do wonder if there is room in sport for a red card for the player but a substitute is the answer. So the player gets red-carded but the player can be replaced.
This game has been ruined by an overly punitive punishment. 14 guys did nothing wrong. It still has the desired result of encouraging lower tackling because you punish the individual.
Was it Wales that had a World Cup red card a few years back and it was similarly based on a flavour of the month IRB protocol aimed at reducing a particular tackling technique.
This game has been ruined by an overly punitive punishment. 14 guys did nothing wrong. It still has the desired result of encouraging lower tackling because you punish the individual.
Was it Wales that had a World Cup red card a few years back and it was similarly based on a flavour of the month IRB protocol aimed at reducing a particular tackling technique.
Well, it probably ruined what could have been a good game. I get why he gave the red, but not sure. I know the rules, etc, but...yeah.
English players are tackling too high, they are going to get in real trouble if they don't fix it.
It seems to give no accommodation for how Rugby is played. That play developed and the guy was just on him quicker than he could adjust his technique. I’m fairly sure he was distracted by the other tackle happening in front of him as well.
may as well play touch rugby. players will just have to side step tackles unless they have space to line a tackle up properly.
It's a good idea. Maybe a 10 minutes sin bin accompanied with a substitution?
Is this genuinely what the Rubgy authorities want though? A game ruined by a poor bit of judgement happening in a split second? They have been throwing punches in Rugby for decades and they don’t even get sent off for that.
Surely, if you want to encourage lower tackling then punish the offender but not the fans who’ve paid upwards of £100 a ticket. Those fans deserve to see a contest.
No, he had plenty of time to get low. What english players are trying to do is to get players high enough to lock the ball and create a maul.
Exactly yeah. It’s a farce otherwise.
As an England fan I don't feel too hard done by by the decision. But the game is utterly pointless now.
I know that idea. The Irish did it for years.
It isn't ideal in certain circumstances but people are just going to have to adjust, I think because it's here to stay. I was listening to a podcast recently and Shane Horgan was saying that there are concussion law suits coming and how more and more evidence of how dangerous it is means that they don't have much choice but to be super strict on it.
But that goes against the idea that it was a mistake and couldn't go low, he had no intention to go low, he simply messed up.
i do. for me, it’s a rule made by people who have never played rugby before. he looks like he’s got ages to get low in slow mo but in full speed he’s probably hesitated by a fraction of a second and got sent off for it. rugby is a game where you get hurt. it’s the game. you can send someone off every 2 minutes if you’re worried about that. they sent him off because of the outcome, not the intent.
I know, hence why I said letter of the law, ok.
But there are decisions in every game where officials dont (the not given yellow at the end of the Wales England game for example). Consistency would be good.
Curry off is a huge blow for England.
If Ireland keep their focus and are ruthless (like a NZ team would be), this could/should be 20-30 points win.
Fair enough. Yeah they need to calm down a little I feel and the tries will come. At times we seem to be trying to rush it.
No, he starts his run from pretty far, it wasn't one of those short run/reaction type of action.
The second half is where it should fall apart for England. They're winning a few pens here, and they're probably amped up on adrenaline and maybe feel hard done by, which will keep them going for a bit. But I expect Ireland to pull away in the second
England will win this, Ireland look clueless.
Early days. Be a different game in the second half.
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