Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

Amorim front 3 are expected to make many sprints per game without receiving the ball.
They have to keep sprinting only to drag defenders and open spaces for the team - just look at the work Trincão, Gyokeres and Pedro Gonçalves do each game. They have to be prepared to receive one pass per 8-10 sprints or so.
That is what he expects and that is what the front 3 will have to give him (without complaining about it)
 
Amorim in his videos above. Strong 90s Rock vibes with the turtleneck.

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Samid said:


I desperately wanted to believe in you Ruby :(
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legit source or not....it's really the only position in that system logically he could play

his role is going to similar to what they've done with Gyokeres who is constantly running the channels...it's about pace and running behind which rashford can do

zirkzee clearly doesn't have the pace....Hojlund has the pace and would fill in that back up role but don't see him starting there given he's not quite ready
 
santeria13 said:
I am a big critic of Rashford and don't think he's the long term solution, past this summer. But Hojlund has been absolutely woeful. I don't think I've ever seen a player be consistently so invisible. He's absolutely useless as a striker at the moment and it would be hard to do a worse job.
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We have had an issue with invisible strikers for a while now. Since Zlatan, none of our strikers have been useful.

Some say its the system, some say the player.

The answer is inbetween, the player needs to make runs so he is found and the team needs to be able to get build up so the striker can get involved.

So lets see under Amorim.
 
Coming to the biggest club in the world and saying he doesn’t feel the weight and he feels relaxed..: that’s the sign of a successful manager.
 
santeria13 said:
I am a big critic of Rashford and don't think he's the long term solution, past this summer. But Hojlund has been absolutely woeful. I don't think I've ever seen a player be consistently so invisible. He's absolutely useless as a striker at the moment and it would be hard to do a worse job.
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Hojilund being in woeful form doesn't mean the solution is to throw in a player who's been in woeful form for the guts of three years, and at times has barely resembled a footballer.
 
FrankDrebin said:
Even when Rashford was in top form he never fully adjusted to the role of a natural striker because he never really was one .

I think coaches have seen his strengths ,with his electric pace and composure in front of goal, and occasionally it has worked but longterm its never been a consistent viable role for him or us.

He's never been a instinctive player in the box and his lack of aerial threat is clear yet the unfortunate part is Zirkzee and Hojlund both equally lack those same two skillsets too.
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I'd rather have a striker who scores inconsistently than a striker who never scores at all.
 
DJ_21 said:
Coming to the biggest club in the world and saying he doesn’t feel the weight and he feels relaxed..: that’s the sign of a successful manager.
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He just seems so calm and relaxed talking about the job.. Thats all well and good, just hope he is the same once he realises how crap the players are at following instructions.

He is under no pressure and if results dont improve, regardless of what anyone says "give him time". "free hit this season", there will always be pressure if Manutd dont win games.
 
romufc said:
He just seems so calm and relaxed talking about the job.. Thats all well and good, just hope he is the same once he realises how crap the players are at following instructions.

He is under no pressure and if results dont improve, regardless of what anyone says "give him time". "free hit this season", there will always be pressure if Manutd dont win games.
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Exactly. We can’t expect things to click straight away. Most of this team would have never played in a system he’s about to introduce. Plus they’ll all have mashed brains from instructions from previous managers still at the back of their minds. Luckily it seems like Amorim is a lot clearer in what he wants and the players should understand him.
 
DJ_21 said:
Coming to the biggest club in the world and saying he doesn’t feel the weight and he feels relaxed..: that’s the sign of a successful manager.
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Stark contrast to David ‘The blood drained from my face, I was shocked’‘ Moyes.
 
DJ_21 said:
Exactly. We can’t expect things to click straight away. Most of this team would have never played in a system he’s about to introduce. Plus they’ll all have mashed brains from instructions from previous managers still at the back of their minds. Luckily it seems like Amorim is a lot clearer in what he wants and the players should understand him.
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Honestly, I just hope we see some progress. Every manager since SAF has ended the same way... us going into games thinking.. how many will we lose by.

Yet, I see managers come in at other clubs and implement a system and think.. why cant we?

So I really hope Amorim can get a group of players to play the way he wants and he should be able to play it better than at Sporting as he has better players.
 
The Firestarter said:
In CF? No.
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We do need starting no9 for next season but for this season Rashford could be the best option. He is far from perfect for no9 role but when you consider all cons and pros for every our striker.......i have most faith in Rashford.
That doesn't mean that i would even consider him as a long term starting no9.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
We do need starting no9 for next season but for this season Rashford could be the best option. He is far from perfect for no9 role but when you consider all cons and pros for every our striker.......i have most faith in Rashford.
That doesn't mean that i would even consider him as a long term starting no9.
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Højlund over Rashford any day.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
We do need starting no9 for next season but for this season Rashford could be the best option. He is far from perfect for no9 role but when you consider all cons and pros for every our striker.......i have most faith in Rashford.
That doesn't mean that i would even consider him as a long term starting no9.
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#9 in Amorims system is expected to run into the channels. Rashford is not the man for that role. He will be tired in the first 20 mins. Hojlund however does that more effectively and he presses better.
 
RDCR07 said:
#9 in Amorims system is expected to run into the channels. Rashford is not the man for that role. He will be tired in the first 20 mins. Hojlund however does that more effectively and he presses better.
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I get the Rashford hate but this is just a lie.. if there is something Rashford is actually good at, its running the channels.

That is the reason why some people think he can work as a 9, he runs in behind and will make channel runs.
 
Well I got my prediction back to front with EtH. I thought he would have a very rocky first year and then adapt his strategy to suit the premier league and kick on. Turns out he did the opposite, was pragmatic and doing well and then tried to implement a flawed system.

For Amorim I hope the club send a very strong message to the players that he will be backed all the way. I can see that some players don't suit his system but thankfully that is now a smaller number of players following recent clearouts. Maguire needs 5 touches to control the ball so he will be gone. Rashford has to have a total change in attitude.

We have players that can adapt to playing three at the back, but we will be vulnerable at set pieces and on counter-attacks until marking, roles and positioning become instinctive rather than learnt. Some players will be tried in unusual roles to see if they adapt or have the right work ethic. I hope these experiments are short lived and, if not successful, will be replaced with younger players until the transfer market can be exploited.

Given what happened with Erik i feel that I'd prefer a rocky start, with some topsy turvy results while the team adapts to his style - and we then begin to play with a consistent style and application. I suspect some players will be hoping that a run of 4 or five losses or an absolute thumping will lead to a crisis of confidence in Amorim or a change in his methodology.

The fans and the board need to be resolute in backing the manager and not accepting mediocre effort from the players. Not good enough for the system can be forgiven...not working hard enough can't be accepted anymore.
 
buchansleftleg said:
Given what happened with Erik i feel that I'd prefer a rocky start, with some topsy turvy results while the team adapts to his style - and we then begin to play with a consistent style and application. I suspect some players will be hoping that a run of 4 or five losses or an absolute thumping will lead to a crisis of confidence in Amorim or a change in his methodology.

The fans and the board need to be resolute in backing the manager and not accepting mediocre effort from the players. Not good enough for the system can be forgiven...not working hard enough can't be accepted anymore.
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Hold on.. you want us to drop more points than we did when Ten Hag started? You do realise Ten Hag started poorly? Loss at home to Brighton then followed by 4-0 loss to Brentford.. 2 wins then we lost 6-3 to City..

I definitely hope we dont have a rocky start, considering how bad we already have been this season and our players aren't that bad.
 
I hadn't been as excited by a manager since ten Hag. I know ten Hag didn't worked out but I'm glad the approach were taking signing the young upcoming managers instead of the washed out ones.
 
romufc said:
I get the Rashford hate but this is just a lie.. if there is something Rashford is actually good at, its running the channels.

That is the reason why some people think he can work as a 9, he runs in behind and will make channel runs.
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This. Plus he has more variety in finishing than other two.
I was never a fan of Rashford on no9 position but between current options; Rashford any day.
 
romufc said:
I get the Rashford hate but this is just a lie.. if there is something Rashford is actually good at, its running the channels.

That is the reason why some people think he can work as a 9, he runs in behind and will make channel runs.
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I don’t hate him. But I feel like I’ve given him plenty of opportunities to step up over the past 2 years. He hasn’t. So I couldn’t give a shit if he leaves. Simple as.

He hasn’t done this running you speak about in a while. He tries to dribble his way more now. And he isn’t good at getting past his man either. He genuinely isn’t a threat anymore. He also doesn’t track back enough. All that shows a lack of effort.

Remember Ruud of all people took him off in the 55th minute at home against one of the worst teams in the league cause he was so shit. He isn’t going to magically step it up for Ruben.
 
RDCR07 said:
I don’t hate him. But I feel like I’ve given him plenty of opportunities to step up over the past 2 years. He hasn’t. So I couldn’t give a shit if he leaves. Simple as.

He hasn’t done this running you speak about in a while. He tries to dribble his way more now. And he isn’t good at getting past his man either. He genuinely isn’t a threat anymore. He also doesn’t track back enough. All that shows a lack of effort.

Remember Ruud of all people took him off in the 55th minute at home against one of the worst teams in the league cause he was so shit. He isn’t going to magically step it up for Ruben.
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I understand everything you said in this post and agree with it, your previous post mentioned him not making those runs.

One thing with Rashford, he will run in behind, he may be rubbish at doing everything else at the moment but he will run in behind.

However, that is just one aspect of the game that Amorim wants his striker to do, which he can do imo.

The question is can he play with his back to goal? there is no evidence that he can, alot of times when he is deployed as a 9, the ball has never stuck, he isn't able to bring players into play.

Its almost as if we need a blend of Zirkzee and Hojlund into one player, where Hojlund can do all the off the ball movement but cannot control the ball for any money.
 
GlazersHater said:
I hadn't been as excited by a manager since ten Hag. I know ten Hag didn't worked out but I'm glad the approach were taking signing the young upcoming managers instead of the washed out ones.
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Agreed. No complaints about hiring Ten Hag because he was a highly-rated, innovative coach at the time, it just didn't work out unfortunately as the step up proved too much. There's no reason to stop taking chances on exciting young coaches though.
 
RDCR07 said:
I don’t hate him. But I feel like I’ve given him plenty of opportunities to step up over the past 2 years. He hasn’t. So I couldn’t give a shit if he leaves. Simple as.

He hasn’t done this running you speak about in a while. He tries to dribble his way more now. And he isn’t good at getting past his man either. He genuinely isn’t a threat anymore. He also doesn’t track back enough. All that shows a lack of effort.

Remember Ruud of all people took him off in the 55th minute at home against one of the worst teams in the league cause he was so shit. He isn’t going to magically step it up for Ruben.
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Not only lack of effort but also lack of football iq. If there was a betting category for "number of runs on the wing with your head down and getting the ball out" Rashford wouldn't allowed to be bet on.
 
Can’t we just let him wear whatever he wants instead of sponsored clothes?

Let him cook
 
Paul778 said:
It's not just his tactics. It's his man management getting the players to buy into him and his philosophy. It's his in game management making big and small changes in games and getting results.

I'm sure most clubs now have media experts doing analysis pre games. They don't rely on Statman Dave videos.

He plays three at the back, but that is small potatoes. How he choose to position each player in each phase of the game, what situations are press triggers, and all sorts of other things are nuances that he can play with and will change over time and change per opponent.

At Sporting the amazing thing is that they are a selling club yet he has continued success and found new solutions and new players very quickly.
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I agree with everything you said, but i must point something out regarding the last paragraph: it's not unheard of the win multiple Championships in Portugal while being a selling club. Porto and Benfica have done it several times in the past 20 years.

What's special about Amorim is that he managed to do it with Sporting. That's what is truly remarkable.
He had no business wining his first championship. He massively overachieved with that one. The club was in shambles before he got there and now he's leaving with Sporting being the top candidates to win the League again.
 
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santeria13 said:
Will we only be able to watch the interview at 7pm if we have MUTV?
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Utd are dogshit at stuff like this. Even the most basic stuff requires you to go to the physical website and sign in/signup. So behind the times as usual.
 
Seems odd to not do an unveiling press conference, like normal.

Just leaving it/pushing it to the Ipswich pre match one?
 
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