Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

It’s not even a choice.

Even if we wanted to play a high line and be on the front foot, we wouldn’t be able to against Arsenal. Their play pushes us back, we don’t have the ability to play through their press, and can’t get high up the pitch in possession of the football.

Arsenal are simply far too good at recycling the ball and winning in back.

Yeah that goes without saying. Not sure what some people expect us to do. Amorim said himself that we won’t be playing like that in the future ie we will be holding our own against these sort of teams.
 
Yes, everyone should never trust their own lying eyes! Instead, they should listen to people saying all this coach needs is an entirely new team and years to train them before we’re good again. As you were, Caf.
Or, you could just use the fine combination of common sense and a bit of humility to avoid going 200 % Dunning Kruger. He’s not even claiming that he needs all that himself. The question every fan needs to ask themselves is: Do you think we’ll have a better chance of becoming regular title contenders the next decade by keeping doing business as usual and switching coaches every year or two paying huge severance packages and constantly changing playing style, or by backing the up and coming talented young coach hailed by other professionals and experts who quit a good job mid season against his will to come here and implement a proven style of play? And by backing him I don’t mean indefinitely, but definitely more than a few months.
 
The new thing to try is to sack a manager after six months, we haven‘t tried that yet.

But let‘s not, I don‘t believe in that if the coach is good.
 


Sir Jim Ratcliffe on Amorim: "Yeah I do, honestly [believe he can succeed]. I really, really like Ruben. He’s a very thoughtful guy. "Every time I go to the training ground, I speak to Ruben. I sit down and have a cup of coffee with him and tell him where it’s going wrong, and he tells me to f**k off. I like him."
 
Or, you could just use the fine combination of common sense and a bit of humility to avoid going 200 % Dunning Kruger. He’s not even claiming that he needs all that himself. The question every fan needs to ask themselves is: Do you think we’ll have a better chance of becoming regular title contenders the next decade by keeping doing business as usual and switching coaches every year or two paying huge severance packages and constantly changing playing style, or by backing the up and coming talented young coach hailed by other professionals and experts who quit a good job mid season against his will to come here and implement a proven style of play? And by backing him I don’t mean indefinitely, but definitely more than a few months.
I think we will never be title contenders under Amorim's reign.
 
Where do you get the idea that he was brought into make us play like exactly Ajax or that Ten Hag ever wanted United to play that way?

The players absolutely not dictate the way we played last season and up until October this season. As evidenced by the fact we looked a more solid outfit when he eventually switched tactics in the lead up to the FA Cup final.
Why would you sign a manager who played the way he did with Ajax and then say we dont want you to play the Ajax way we want you to play oleball, or any other style? Of course he was bought to play the way Ajax played, otherwise the board would have signed a manager to play the style they wanted.
 
Or, you could just use the fine combination of common sense and a bit of humility to avoid going 200 % Dunning Kruger. He’s not even claiming that he needs all that himself. The question every fan needs to ask themselves is: Do you think we’ll have a better chance of becoming regular title contenders the next decade by keeping doing business as usual and switching coaches every year or two paying huge severance packages and constantly changing playing style, or by backing the up and coming talented young coach hailed by other professionals and experts who quit a good job mid season against his will to come here and implement a proven style of play? And by backing him I don’t mean indefinitely, but definitely more than a few months.

Oh dear!

With a proper football structure in place switching coaches won't be an issue.
 
Imagine being able to tell your boss to feck off almost every day and still be in his good books :lol:
 
Why would you sign a manager who played the way he did with Ajax and then say we dont want you to play the Ajax way we want you to play oleball, or any other style? Of course he was bought to play the way Ajax played, otherwise the board would have signed a manager to play the style they wanted.

But you nor I have any idea what was said to Ten Hag or if he was even given any specific brief about playing style. Ten Hag himself said he hadn't planned on playing like his Ajax team did. Which would be obvious with a diffeent set of players in a different country and league.
 
At least Jim seems to understand how bad the squad is.

He certainly doesn't see it as a top 6 squad available to Amorim like many here.
 
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Why would you sign a manager who played the way he did with Ajax and then say we dont want you to play the Ajax way we want you to play oleball, or any other style? Of course he was bought to play the way Ajax played, otherwise the board would have signed a manager to play the style they wanted.
I think there is confusion about how Ajax played under Ten Hag. I also think he was right we could not play the way Ajax played in the Eredivisie. There you can dominate 90% of games, which was unattainable for us in the PL.
 
I think we will never be title contenders under Amorim's reign.
Things have to align perfectly for him to win a EPL title. Inch perfect alignment. From competitors having issues, to us avoiding injuries, and other teams having poor quality managers.

But in the absolute level, 2 man midfield can never be consistent enough to win EPL title. We will go round in circles but it wont achieve anything.
People are just in the 'new girlfriend period' Clarity will come on eventually.
 
The question is whether he can have a much better season next season that sees us finish much higher up the table and scoring more goals. I think he can do that, yes.
At what cost, that is the main question.

We will spend alot of time, resources, squad revamps, just to get back to where we were 2 years ago. Which even now doesn’t look achievable.


Like Chelsea, just getting back to where Tuchel had them before they sacked him has cost them incredible amount of money, resources, squad revamp etc. Yet they even haven't got to that level.

Tuchel was winning UCL for them, now Chelsea is in conference league. After how many managers/money/new players/toxic environment etc.
 
Love that. Let's all support Amorim and trust him to build the next great united team. People need to stop stressing over the short term stuff.
 
I don’t think low block was really a term then, at least not as popular, but they were in a solid shape and invited pressure on.

Anyway, I think the future looks a lot better, so far Amorim has signed 3 players (Leon, Heaven and dorgu) and they all exhibit pace and physicality. We desperately need that, and I expect he’ll reinforce midfield with it in the summer.

Agreed - I am worried for the team short-term. I am not worried for the team long-term. When you can mention 15-20 talents who are talented enough to break into the first-team - I mean clearly some of them will succeed even if the majority wont. And we will be able to offload quite a few players for £5-10-15 million
 
If anyone watched that interview and thinks there's any chance Amorim won't be manager at the start of next season, then they are deluded.

It really should draw a big line under all of that daft talk. It won't though, sadly.
 
If anyone watched that interview and thinks there's any chance Amorim won't be manager at the start of next season, then they are deluded.

It really should draw a big line under all of that daft talk. It won't though, sadly.
There’s was never really any doubt that he’d be here next season. The only way he wouldn’t have been is if we was very close to the bottom 3 but we’re obviously safe. So this seasons just a write of… more time to get his instructions across although some of them players won’t be here next year.
 
The question every fan needs to ask themselves is: Do you think we’ll have a better chance of becoming regular title contenders the next decade by keeping doing business as usual and switching coaches every year or two paying huge severance packages and constantly changing playing style, or by backing the up and coming talented young coach hailed by other professionals and experts who quit a good job mid season against his will to come here and implement a proven style of play?
But there is no "or" here. United just sacked the manager, paid a huge severance package, and changed their playing style once again, hence why Ruben Amorim is the manager, these are not two distinct options.
 
It's so incredibly important to solve the biggest issues with the squad in the summer. If we don't get a quality striker and bolster the midfield, we are already looking at another long season. Hopefully the club is already identifying targets and laying the groundwork.
 
There’s was never really any doubt that he’d be here next season. The only way he wouldn’t have been is if we was very close to the bottom 3 but we’re obviously safe. So this seasons just a write of… more time to get his instructions across although some of them players won’t be here next year.

Correct, there was no doubt for most people, but on here I've been arguing for weeks with people who seemed to think Amorim was on the verge of being sacked. I'm now worried about some of them who still won't be able to accept this reality.
 
Correct, there was no doubt for most people, but on here I've been arguing for weeks with people who seemed to think Amorim was on the verge of being sacked. I'm now worried about some of them who still won't be able to accept this reality.
I’m sure they’ll live
 
Correct, there was no doubt for most people, but on here I've been arguing for weeks with people who seemed to think Amorim was on the verge of being sacked. I'm now worried about some of them who still won't be able to accept this reality.
Ye I wouldn’t worry about them people mate. There the ones that are never happy and always find something to moan about
 
There was never any chance of Amorim not being in charge next season. I massively support him.
Me too. He’s the only one that’s actually showing some signs of what he actually wants to do and how he wants to play. It’s obviously not going to be pretty yet with these bunch of players but with a couple of transfers windows we’ll be miles better
 
There is a strong message from INEOS to the players: “this is OUR guy and you must do as he says or leave. No way players running this club anymore.”

The biggest problem (aside form the Glasers of course) was caused by United players pleasing approach. Huge salaries, tolerance to lack of discipline, pandering the “stars”, no accountability. We assembled the most impressive collection of the laziest and at the same time ambitious players ever. Disastrous combination of traits which cost us billions pounds.
 
Good interview, necessary interview. I was wrong and many on here were right Jimmy Brexit, does see it like the fans. Players are shit, needs a big rebuild and he's going to fund it.