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Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Informative thread on his journey up until this point
Why post spoofer accounts?
Didn't post thinking it was him
Just the countdown until he can officially finally begin tomorrow
Well I for one love to see it.Didn't post thinking it was him
Just the countdown until he can officially begin tomorrow
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5890461/2024/11/05/ruben-amorim-mourinho-intern-manchester-united/
Nice article about his early days studying what we did at Carrington under Mourinho. 6 years later and he is the manager. Crazy how it all works out.
Nice article about his early days studying what we did at Carrington under Mourinho. 6 years later and he is the manager. Crazy how it all works out.
Can you copy paste the article please? Don’t have access to the article.
They have to give him time and patience. I think we have a good squad despite our performances but if he can't get results from them then move them on not him.
Look at slot comes into a club with a winning mentality and he can progress with them
Look at slot comes into a club with a winning mentality and he can progress with them
Sure. It's very interesting to know what happens behind the scene for young coaches. And in the case of Amorim, he had a connection to ManUnited right from the start. No wonder why he wanted the job.
When Ruben Amorim arrives at Carrington on his first day as Manchester United’s new manager, he will find himself in familiar surroundings.
Earlier this week, not long after The Athletic revealed United were working on a deal to appoint Amorim, an image of him and Jose Mourinho in the manager’s office at Carrington began to be widely shared across social media.
The photograph was taken six years ago. Amorim was visiting Carrington as part of a week-long internship, while studying for a masters’ degree in high-performance football coaching at the University of Lisbon.
The course was convened by Prof. Antonio Veloso, at the university’s faculty of human kinetics, and organised in partnership with Mourinho.
Veloso and Mourinho studied sports science together at the university as undergraduates in the 1980s. After re-establishing contact several decades later, Veloso proposed devising a course which would aim to bridge the gap between academic study and traditional coaching qualifications.
“The programme was finalised in Jose’s living room in London,” says Veloso, with much of it based on the gaps Mourinho felt he had in his knowledge when he started out as a young coach.
“He said at that time, I didn’t know how to work with the press. So on the programme, we have a module about building your career — organising your portfolio, how you communicate, how you talk with the media… .”
Petter Skogsletten attended the course the same year as Amorim. “We went through absolutely everything that a manager needs to know to be able to start off,” he says. “Many courses usually focus on the coaching only on the pitch but this was all about the manager role itself.”
Veloso first learned of Amorim’s interest in the course through Filipe Celikkaya, who managed Sporting B until the end of last season. Although he did not possess an undergraduate degree, Amorim was able to enrol on the course as a former international player due to a partnership with the Portuguese Football Federation.
With the pedigree of 14 caps for Portugal and more than 150 appearances for Benfica, he immediately stood out among his peers.
“When we’d have guest coaches, or we were going over analysis, or anything we were doing, we’d want to hear from Ruben at some part of the conversation,” says Geoff Labine, another student on the course that year. “He had the most real feedback, the most experience playing at the highest level.”
Skogsletten says he learned a lot from him. “When he spoke, you could hear that he understood people. He understood players. He had a high understanding of the game.”
But Veloso was also pleasantly surprised to see how Amorim mastered the more theoretical aspects of the course. “We’d ask them to write an essay on a subject and he was excelling at that as well — from psychology to biomechanics to everything else.”
Amorim’s tactical principles were still taking shape at the time and he was not afraid to borrow concepts from established coaches. “When he’d be describing an idea he wanted to use, he’d say: ‘I took this idea from (Antonio) Conte, this from Mourinho, and I think they’ll be a good combination’,” says Veloso.
“It’s like a good chef. You are inspired by what you see from other good chefs, then you do your own recipe.”
The competitive streak and high standards from his playing days would occasionally creep out in the odd training session, with a little shake of the head when a coach did not pick up on his cues to make a movement or a run.
But ‘humble’ is the one word that Veloso, Skogsletten and Labine all use to describe Amorim. “For him, it doesn’t matter if you’ve been playing at this level, he’s at the same level as you,” says Skogsletten. “He opened up and he was himself with you.”
Labine agrees. “I would joke with Ruben because he’s driving the most unassuming Smart car, those little cube cars. I’m looking for the Maserati or the Bugatti or something. He goes: ‘No Geoff, you don’t understand. I’m different. I’m not like that.’”
As part of the course, students had to secure 50 hours’ worth of experience in a coaching environment. But every year, Veloso and his colleagues would select those at the top of the class to serve their internship embedded within Mourinho’s coaching staff.
To earn that spot, students had to score well academically and impress in a practical setting on the training pitch. “If you were able to make adjustments on the go — pick a player off this team, put a player on that team to help create the competitive balance that you’re looking for — that was a big point,” says Labine.
Amorim was one of three students from the class of 2017 selected to attend Carrington, as was Labine.
The interns sat in on six training sessions over the week, in preparation for a visit from Arsenal the following weekend — which happened to be Arsene Wenger’s last game at Old Trafford as a manager.
It was largely an observational exercise. “We weren’t touching cones,” says Labine. Amorim and his fellow interns instead essentially spent their time shadowing Mourinho, soaking up his wisdom and learning what the average week is like when you are the manager of one of the biggest clubs in European football.
On a typical morning, they would arrive at Carrington at around 8am and mill about in the canteen with players and staff. “Around nine, the training began outside,” says Labine. “We would go out with Jose and sit with him and chat in the dugouts.
“He would have some time where he would just let his assistant Rui (Faria) run the session, so Jose would come over and talk. Then he would break out in the 11-vs-11 on the field and we’d talk with his assistant.”
After returning to the canteen for lunch with some of the players, there might be a debrief back in Mourinho’s office. Otherwise, the interns would concentrate on their coursework.
Amorim’s task for the week was to produce a report with his fellow interns on what they observed — what went well in training, what ideas they recognised from what they had learned on the course, what they might change if they were running the sessions themselves. It was not all hard work, though.
Come the evening, Mourinho occasionally took the interns out to his private room in the basement of Tapeo and Wine, a tapas restaurant owned by Juan Mata, formerly on Deansgate until its closure in 2020. “As soon as we walked in the restaurant, it would be like a hush over the people eating,” Labine recalls.
That week, it was the first legs of the Champions League semi-finals — Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid, Liverpool vs Roma. Amorim and Labine spent a couple of evenings watching the games while listening to Mourinho’s war stories, as he picked out players on the TV who he had coached and reminisced about what they were like to manage, occasionally while over-ordering on the desserts.
Mourinho was generous with his time to each of the interns but built up a particular rapport with Amorim, given their shared nationality, language and experience of working within Portuguese football. “Jose already had a very good idea about Ruben,” says Veloso. That he had played with Victor Lindelof and Nemanja Matic at Benfica helped, too.
“You could tell they were having more private conversations,” says Labine. “I think he was just giving Ruben pieces of advice, little things about how to run a professional team. I think before the course even started, they had identified Ruben as one of the next great Portuguese coaches.”
Comparisons with Mourinho have abounded ever since Amorim’s emergence as Portuguese football’s brightest young coach, and United’s incoming manager has previously described Mourinho as his “reference”. Labine sees similarities but also differences between the two, though.
“He’s less pragmatic than Jose,” says Amorim’s fellow intern. “He is much more diplomatic and less authoritarian, even the way that he’ll speak to people is a little less abrasive and more like a team, more together. We’re on the same team. Although they have similar philosophies, I think there was a lot different.”
The student subsequently turned teacher. Amorim returned to the faculty over the following years to give his own lectures on the course, always delivered in fluent English.
Two years ago, Amorim invited the class to Sporting’s academy for an insight into his training methods and to watch a session. Two of his assistants, Carlos Fernandes and Paulo Barreira, led a seminar with the students on match analysis.
Fernandes is also a graduate of the university, studying for his bachelor’s degree at the faculty, and has been earmarked to join United’s coaching staff.
But it is Amorim who will be sitting behind the desk in the manager’s office at Carrington, less than a decade on from posing for a photograph with Mourinho in the same room.
“He’s really highly ambitious,” says Skogsletten, who remembers speaking with Amorim about how they would go about getting their start in coaching. Amorim was itching to start right away and landed his first job with Casa Pia only a few months after the course concluded.
“He was looking for that opportunity back then, but I don’t think he knew where it was going to end. I think this is a path that he has been exploring during his success… I think he has just seen a path that has opened up in front of him and moved.
“Everyone in that group could see him becoming successful,” he adds. “What we didn’t see was what this part would look like — will it be an assistant coach? Will it be a manager? Where does it end?
“We couldn’t see this happening that fast, but we knew for sure that sometime in the future, he had all the qualities he needs.”
Earlier this week, not long after The Athletic revealed United were working on a deal to appoint Amorim, an image of him and Jose Mourinho in the manager’s office at Carrington began to be widely shared across social media.
The photograph was taken six years ago. Amorim was visiting Carrington as part of a week-long internship, while studying for a masters’ degree in high-performance football coaching at the University of Lisbon.
The course was convened by Prof. Antonio Veloso, at the university’s faculty of human kinetics, and organised in partnership with Mourinho.
Veloso and Mourinho studied sports science together at the university as undergraduates in the 1980s. After re-establishing contact several decades later, Veloso proposed devising a course which would aim to bridge the gap between academic study and traditional coaching qualifications.
“The programme was finalised in Jose’s living room in London,” says Veloso, with much of it based on the gaps Mourinho felt he had in his knowledge when he started out as a young coach.
“He said at that time, I didn’t know how to work with the press. So on the programme, we have a module about building your career — organising your portfolio, how you communicate, how you talk with the media… .”
Petter Skogsletten attended the course the same year as Amorim. “We went through absolutely everything that a manager needs to know to be able to start off,” he says. “Many courses usually focus on the coaching only on the pitch but this was all about the manager role itself.”
Veloso first learned of Amorim’s interest in the course through Filipe Celikkaya, who managed Sporting B until the end of last season. Although he did not possess an undergraduate degree, Amorim was able to enrol on the course as a former international player due to a partnership with the Portuguese Football Federation.
With the pedigree of 14 caps for Portugal and more than 150 appearances for Benfica, he immediately stood out among his peers.
“When we’d have guest coaches, or we were going over analysis, or anything we were doing, we’d want to hear from Ruben at some part of the conversation,” says Geoff Labine, another student on the course that year. “He had the most real feedback, the most experience playing at the highest level.”
Skogsletten says he learned a lot from him. “When he spoke, you could hear that he understood people. He understood players. He had a high understanding of the game.”
But Veloso was also pleasantly surprised to see how Amorim mastered the more theoretical aspects of the course. “We’d ask them to write an essay on a subject and he was excelling at that as well — from psychology to biomechanics to everything else.”
Amorim’s tactical principles were still taking shape at the time and he was not afraid to borrow concepts from established coaches. “When he’d be describing an idea he wanted to use, he’d say: ‘I took this idea from (Antonio) Conte, this from Mourinho, and I think they’ll be a good combination’,” says Veloso.
“It’s like a good chef. You are inspired by what you see from other good chefs, then you do your own recipe.”
The competitive streak and high standards from his playing days would occasionally creep out in the odd training session, with a little shake of the head when a coach did not pick up on his cues to make a movement or a run.
But ‘humble’ is the one word that Veloso, Skogsletten and Labine all use to describe Amorim. “For him, it doesn’t matter if you’ve been playing at this level, he’s at the same level as you,” says Skogsletten. “He opened up and he was himself with you.”
Labine agrees. “I would joke with Ruben because he’s driving the most unassuming Smart car, those little cube cars. I’m looking for the Maserati or the Bugatti or something. He goes: ‘No Geoff, you don’t understand. I’m different. I’m not like that.’”
As part of the course, students had to secure 50 hours’ worth of experience in a coaching environment. But every year, Veloso and his colleagues would select those at the top of the class to serve their internship embedded within Mourinho’s coaching staff.
To earn that spot, students had to score well academically and impress in a practical setting on the training pitch. “If you were able to make adjustments on the go — pick a player off this team, put a player on that team to help create the competitive balance that you’re looking for — that was a big point,” says Labine.
Amorim was one of three students from the class of 2017 selected to attend Carrington, as was Labine.
The interns sat in on six training sessions over the week, in preparation for a visit from Arsenal the following weekend — which happened to be Arsene Wenger’s last game at Old Trafford as a manager.
It was largely an observational exercise. “We weren’t touching cones,” says Labine. Amorim and his fellow interns instead essentially spent their time shadowing Mourinho, soaking up his wisdom and learning what the average week is like when you are the manager of one of the biggest clubs in European football.
On a typical morning, they would arrive at Carrington at around 8am and mill about in the canteen with players and staff. “Around nine, the training began outside,” says Labine. “We would go out with Jose and sit with him and chat in the dugouts.
“He would have some time where he would just let his assistant Rui (Faria) run the session, so Jose would come over and talk. Then he would break out in the 11-vs-11 on the field and we’d talk with his assistant.”
After returning to the canteen for lunch with some of the players, there might be a debrief back in Mourinho’s office. Otherwise, the interns would concentrate on their coursework.
Amorim’s task for the week was to produce a report with his fellow interns on what they observed — what went well in training, what ideas they recognised from what they had learned on the course, what they might change if they were running the sessions themselves. It was not all hard work, though.
Come the evening, Mourinho occasionally took the interns out to his private room in the basement of Tapeo and Wine, a tapas restaurant owned by Juan Mata, formerly on Deansgate until its closure in 2020. “As soon as we walked in the restaurant, it would be like a hush over the people eating,” Labine recalls.
That week, it was the first legs of the Champions League semi-finals — Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid, Liverpool vs Roma. Amorim and Labine spent a couple of evenings watching the games while listening to Mourinho’s war stories, as he picked out players on the TV who he had coached and reminisced about what they were like to manage, occasionally while over-ordering on the desserts.
Mourinho was generous with his time to each of the interns but built up a particular rapport with Amorim, given their shared nationality, language and experience of working within Portuguese football. “Jose already had a very good idea about Ruben,” says Veloso. That he had played with Victor Lindelof and Nemanja Matic at Benfica helped, too.
“You could tell they were having more private conversations,” says Labine. “I think he was just giving Ruben pieces of advice, little things about how to run a professional team. I think before the course even started, they had identified Ruben as one of the next great Portuguese coaches.”
Comparisons with Mourinho have abounded ever since Amorim’s emergence as Portuguese football’s brightest young coach, and United’s incoming manager has previously described Mourinho as his “reference”. Labine sees similarities but also differences between the two, though.
“He’s less pragmatic than Jose,” says Amorim’s fellow intern. “He is much more diplomatic and less authoritarian, even the way that he’ll speak to people is a little less abrasive and more like a team, more together. We’re on the same team. Although they have similar philosophies, I think there was a lot different.”
The student subsequently turned teacher. Amorim returned to the faculty over the following years to give his own lectures on the course, always delivered in fluent English.
Two years ago, Amorim invited the class to Sporting’s academy for an insight into his training methods and to watch a session. Two of his assistants, Carlos Fernandes and Paulo Barreira, led a seminar with the students on match analysis.
Fernandes is also a graduate of the university, studying for his bachelor’s degree at the faculty, and has been earmarked to join United’s coaching staff.
But it is Amorim who will be sitting behind the desk in the manager’s office at Carrington, less than a decade on from posing for a photograph with Mourinho in the same room.
“He’s really highly ambitious,” says Skogsletten, who remembers speaking with Amorim about how they would go about getting their start in coaching. Amorim was itching to start right away and landed his first job with Casa Pia only a few months after the course concluded.
“He was looking for that opportunity back then, but I don’t think he knew where it was going to end. I think this is a path that he has been exploring during his success… I think he has just seen a path that has opened up in front of him and moved.
“Everyone in that group could see him becoming successful,” he adds. “What we didn’t see was what this part would look like — will it be an assistant coach? Will it be a manager? Where does it end?
“We couldn’t see this happening that fast, but we knew for sure that sometime in the future, he had all the qualities he needs.”
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Think he can play in the RCB role, he already tucks in as the third centre back during possesion anyway. Think we should target someone more attacking at RWB like Frimpong.
Garnacho can be the impact player off the bench for now. Bruno/Mount fit the inside forward role so well, so does Amad. Rashford will have to compete with Hojlund in the channel striker role. Zirkzee and Antony where they fit, idk.
He hasn’t played two creative number 10 types for Sporting though. He’s played one Bruno/Mount/Amad type and then one inverted winger in those roles.
I see it as those 3 and maybe Zirkzee fighting for one spot, and Garnacho and Rashford fighting for the other spot.
Antony either gets on board with reinventing himself as a LWB or he goes home.
Busy couple of days for our new coach. Plays his last game with sporting tonight and then as to travel to Manchester tomorrow to start his new job.
Heard there was a leaked Bruno Fernandes audio message to Amirom telling him certain United players have no attitude! Anyone else heard about it?
Ineos are buying the players aren't they or are we going down the same road again
Presumably that’s his audio message about Sporting players (when he was still there) complaining about Sporting players.
Yes, but they will buy with the input of the head coach. He will have no problem to sideline any player he doesn't want for the team, no matter the cost.
Bar Antony and the farcical chase of De Jong, Ten hag Ajax buys look good contrary to popular opinion. so I don't mind if Amorim gets us a few of the best from sporting.
Would seem like a sure fire way to have an entire squad turn on you.
I think the squad is perfect for Amorim.
Maz, Dalot, Antony, maybe Garna can play the wing back role.
Delight, Harry, Yoro, Martinez, Shaw at cb. Evans & Lindelof as cover as well.
Eriksen, Ugarte, Case, Kobbie at cm.
Rashford, Hojlund as the focal point. That's where we need reinforcement in the summer.
Zirk, Diallo, Mount, Bruno on either side of the attack.
Whereas we would be found out in a different formation, I think the array of players really suit his preferred formation.
Maz, Dalot, Antony, maybe Garna can play the wing back role.
Delight, Harry, Yoro, Martinez, Shaw at cb. Evans & Lindelof as cover as well.
Eriksen, Ugarte, Case, Kobbie at cm.
Rashford, Hojlund as the focal point. That's where we need reinforcement in the summer.
Zirk, Diallo, Mount, Bruno on either side of the attack.
Whereas we would be found out in a different formation, I think the array of players really suit his preferred formation.
Take Rodri out of City and the drop off is huge, even Pep is scratching his bald head trying to solve it.
Anyone expecting Amorim to come is and fix the shopping list of issues at United is in for more disappointment.
Anyone expecting Amorim to come is and fix the shopping list of issues at United is in for more disappointment.
Thats why I think if he is smart, he will keep Ruud. He cant be coming in on a moving train, completely blind on what's going on at United --- both on and off the field and the league itself.
You are correct.
Sporting plays with Pedro Gonçalves (a former #8 converted by Amorim into a #10) and Trincão (typical winger) as 10´s. Having Pedro Gonçalves in the team allows for a change during the course of games - he can take a few steps back and be the 3rd midfielder (3-5-2) or some steps ahead for the 3-4-3 (or 3-4-2-1, if you prefer). It happened in the 2nd half agains Mcity. But Pedro Gonçalves is a special player and he understands what moments in the game require him to be in the front 3 or a bit closer to the 3 CM. When needed he can also play as a CM.
When he was injured, we played with either a striker (Conrad Harder - a 19 y.o. danish player that was acquired in August to replace Paulinho for the timebeing and Gyokeres in the summer of 2025) or a wingback as #10 ( M. Araujo - the uruguayan that played against city as LWB, Catamo - the guy that replaced him during that game or Nuno Santos - now injured). All these LWB are converted wingers. He wants wingbacks that can also play as "#10´s"
So I see Bruno playing PGonçalves´ role in M.United. Or Mount.
I don´t know if Amad can do it (I don´t know him well enough), but from what I´ve seen I actually think he will be a future wingback in the system: he has work rate, good pace and hability in the final 3rd - a bit like Catamo.
As regards Zirkzee I´ve only seen a few minutes of him (against Chelsea) so can´t say where he would fit.
Is he exepected at OT today ?
No.
It has been stated that he’ll be here after the international break, he’s still got one away game left
His sporting team play a game tonight.
His first game will be after international break. He'll be here on Monday.
Chockingly enough United is nr. 12(How was Ten Hag allowed to do this?)
Amoring will take United to top 6 and it will be a succes.
What's the expectation for next Season United fans? How would a succesfuld season look like next year? Top 4?
Amoring will take United to top 6 and it will be a succes.
What's the expectation for next Season United fans? How would a succesfuld season look like next year? Top 4?
I would love to see a front three of Mount, Zirkzee and Amad under Amorim.
He starts on the 11th, doesn’t he?
Keep Ruud who has designs for your position in the future and a potential to be undermined OR keep Darren Fletcher who has been here through this entire process and Jason Wilcox who is part of the structure and was also here longer than Ruud.
Sorry it was a joke
that is the scapegoat of the Sporting fans. RA told that he wouldn't get players of Sporting in the winterwindow and I'm thankfull for that but Esgaio no problem if he was the exception Yes he starts tomorrow.
4 points off top 4. We've a good squad and definitely should be aiming for it.
Yes. Sign them on 1 Feb instead
Given where we were and the issues that need navigating I think top 6 plus the Europa would be great and failing that top 6 plus some deep cup runs would be nice. But we are 4 points off top 4, it would be magical if we can make top 4 but we have to accept that Villa and Newcastle are currently better than us.