The games vs City, Liverpool and Arsenal give me hope. It will be a rollercoaster ride until end of the season but I think we will improve a lot along the way.
There's more than Spurs who could knock us out of EL, we've 2 wins from 11, and neither was convincing
That’s a brilliant analogy.
Zero chance. We got 11 in his first 11 so that would require us to get 17 in the next 11. That's more than 1.5 points a game, we are not doing that on current form. Probably closer to 8-10 points getting it to about 20 points in first 22 games.
You clearly didn’t read the message you replied to, I’m actually agreeing with you and saying the club should have recruited a PL proven coach like Iraola, I actually think we have another Villa Boas situation with Amorim, slick PowerPoint presentations wonderful record in Portugal, but far too in flexible to be the next messiah of football coaching!
First time I’ve seen a manager not be held responsible for only knowing one tactic!
Whenever theres something bad going on the narratives always change.
Because we weren't exactly tearing it up last season with a more traditional formation. In fact, we ended the season with negative goal difference
No one is saying he should play ETHs suicidal 41- massive gap - 41 of the last 18 months though. Why not try and incorporate elements of the low block, compact, counter attacking 4231 that won us a cup, came third, got to another final, and a European quarter in his first season?
Plenty of games he had less possession than Ole had, we were very much a team that did not bother with it that much.
ETH did that and never changed back.
Well, he did try to, in his 2nd season before it went all pear shaped with injuries and what not. First season he played a 4-2-3-1 where it fetched him results being pragmatic and 2nd season he tried to play a variation of 4-3-3 with two attacking no.8s and not being pragmatic.
) would think of firing you right away. I just hope he has a common understanding with his bosses concerning this plan of action.I'm not absolving him of any blame but there were plenty of other factors too which contributed to that mess of a season.
This whole style debate is overdone. The best coaches have some flexibility, they don't obsess about a rigid system. Certainly Fergie adapted, as has Pep, Slot doesn't obsess about a system which by all accounts a key reason he was chosen. I liked Amorim as an appointment but the rubbish he is serving up is a concern with no sign of improvement. All this 'trap' stuff around changing styes is just BS. A top coach can set up a team to get results, our squad is poor but we should not be getting schooled on the ball by Southampton at home. People say ETH changed and then didnt go back, but his high press chaos ball and no midfield was a close variant to how Ajax played, just with a better overall team and one playing in a hugely inferior league where its shortcomings were masked.Iraola'a first 11 PL games at Bournemouth after signing in July and overseeing their pre-season:
P11 W1 D3 L7 GF9 GA27 GD-18 Pts6
Indeed, it's a trap which I'm happy Amorim has been smart not to fall for, the trap of "temporarily changing style for short-term results." Once you do that and you have a few good results (albeit with doubtful performances), it becomes even more difficult to return to your preferred system as no one would accept the poor results during bedding time after having been used to decent/less-crap results. The best (only) time you can attempt to impose a style and you can be awarded patience in the midst of the crappiest results is when you have just freshly signed and no one (
Yeah, I find it mental to think that professional players that have largely played well for other teams (even top teams for some of them) can't adapt to play a couple of different formations.
People are trying to get history to repeat itself and as bad as Ten Hag was we don't acknowledge the part we played. This was just last year.
Same movie. Apparently some tool in the hierarchy told him to adapt to the players and he had to come up with these weird, two headed, homunculus hybrid tactics where the attack and defence looked like they were coached by different managers. Let Amorim cook. If he fails, he fails on his own merit.
Feck off using love heart smilies for MG
This post is a reminder of the fifa playing modern football fan, where they think by changing formation, play pacey players everything will be rosey.. This isn't the real world.. tactics, philosophies, styles are fundamentals that most top managers these days stick by.. Amorim was hired for having just that.. A system that he knows and has always coached and has worked for him, so it would be bonkers to change that now because the poor players can't play it. Those who can't, will be coached to learn it, and if there is no hope, then they'll be replaced. In this system, the wingbacks are specialists and are the most important part of the team, and until he gets them, it's going to be tough. He's the right person for the job, and will turn it around. It's not his fault that the club had a terrible terrible manager and a board just as bad during the last few years, but one has to admire RA for believing that he will turn it around.
