Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

ayushreddevil9 said:
Is this the blueprint against top sides in away games? We rode our luck today, we could barely make any passes
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We looked much better against City and Liverpool, I'd hope they were more the blueprint.

Arsenals press, Odegaard and the red were big issues for us though.
 
cpresc said:
Can you name a season where Fergie consistently played a Cup Keeper? Or just even regularly rotated a clear number 1 with a backup?
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De Gea and Lindegaard was rotated quite a bit as I recall. Leighton and Sealey weren’t exactly rotated, but shifted quite a bit. Howard and Carroll took e few turns in 2003-2005. Ben Foster was league cup keeper in 2009. Van der Gouw I’d guess was the established back up keeper who played most games for United.

He didn’t tend to have a clear cut ‘plays all the cup games and nothing else’-keeper, but when he didn’t have a clearly established no 1, he tended to let keepers compete and rotate and ofte used cup games for it.
 
I really like the way he handles interviews. He seems very level headed and doesn't get carried away with a win, always sees what we can work on and says the right things to either praise the players who need it, or demand more from those who need that.
 
United have always had a big performance in them over the last 5-10 seasons.

Liverpool and Arsenal were great performances but Amorim needs to crack the code against less glamorous teams.

How they fight and press against Southampton will say a lot.
 
Hoping this isn't another false dawn, but there's possible green shoots emerging

I'm hoping he's drilling the right mentality into them as Bruno said again about its not acceptable to only put in this level of effort against the arsenal's and Liverpools of this world, it should be every single game. I expect to see it against Southampton and Will be annoyed if I don't.

I want to see more composure after we've scored, we still seem to love to shoot ourselves in the foot where we are at sixes and sevens and players make stupid decisions. That 10 minutes after Brunos goal and the opening 15-20 minutes aside I thought we were very good, and played as a team. Didn't rely on individual brilliance, everyone played their part

I think we would have lost that game under ETH when we went down to 10

I'd like to see RA call out the referees where needed, today was shocking, but I don't think he said anything did he? Klopp, while he drove me mad, would have absolutely gone apocalyptic, and annoyingly, it gets them decisions. SAF would also have gone ballistic.
 
Red the Bear said:
Seemed to brush of the refereeing situation which I found a bit strange.

If it were up to Me I'd go for the jugular but I'm sure he has his own plans.
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It shows class but there are other avenues to attack that situation. He also brushed off the leaking of our line up early in his tenure and said it was hard to stop, only for it to stop shortly after.
 
RuudTom83 said:
United have always had a big performance in them over the last 5-10 seasons.

Liverpool and Arsenal were great performances but Amorim needs to crack the code against less glamorous teams.

How they fight and press against Southampton will say a lot.
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7-0 was last season, and we have rarely had big game performances. Amorim is getting there by figuring out who can fit his system!
 
I really admire the fact that he doesn't criticise referees and doesn't talk about bad refereeing decisions.. However my worry is referees will give 50/50s and big decisions against us now because they know our manager won't call them out.
 
Eagle_eye said:
I really admire the fact that he doesn't criticise referees and doesn't talk about bad refereeing decisions.. However my worry is referees will give 50/50s and big decisions against us now because they know our manager won't call them out.
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There are other ways to skin a cat. If he is liked by referees and 4th officials then that can also seep into their psychology.
 
ayushreddevil9 said:
Is this the blueprint against top sides in away games? We rode our luck today, we could barely make any passes
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He beat City 4-1 with Sporting playing on the counter, and even after that game he said he won’t be able to approach big games like that with us. That was after taking City to the cleaners.

He’s said himself he wants to control games and be assertive? But I think it was clear today that they were a level above technically, we weren’t going to outplay them with the team we had out there at this stage.

Just be happy we found a way for now. I said at half time it’d have to be a monumental team talk and some clever tweaks to turn the tide as they were far better the first 45. And we did it. Even more surprisingly, we did it with 10 men whilst players finally worked their bollocks off and left it all out there. So not a technical masterclass, but equally refreshing for us all to see I think.
 
TMDaines said:
Well we are scrapping and fighting, so have started at least competing away from home against better sides. Not sure we necessarily deserve to have gotten the results we have, but I like the attitude and you make your own luck.

Now, we have to actually make it count and clean up over the next two weeks with three home wins against very beatable sides to get our season back on track.
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Against a team full of cheats and divers? yes we deserve it. One of their players thinks he's undertaker and got away with it.
 
cpresc said:
Can you name a season where Fergie consistently played a Cup Keeper? Or just even regularly rotated a clear number 1 with a backup?
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Sealey and Walsh played cup games in his early years. Then Kuszczak played cup games when he was backup. Then Lindegaard and De Gea shared the number one spot for a while.
 
It's how we impose ourselves on weaker teams that we need to improve. I hope we smash Southampton.
 
Blood Mage said:
It's how we impose ourselves on weaker teams that we need to improve. I hope we smash Southampton.
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At the risk of jinxing it, I think we’ll smash weak teams like Southampton. It’s the non-Big 6, non-relegation fodder teams that we seem to struggle against, the likes of Newcastle, Wolves, Palace, Bournemouth, etc. That would be the nut for Amorim to crack if we are to compete for anything.
 
I hope we make at least 1 January signing to support Amorim’s work. Looks like nothing will happen if we don’t sell.
 
jem said:
I find the silence of posters like this both amusing and telling
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That clown has admitted he wanted Thomas Frank instead of Amorim.....that should tell you all you need to know about his opinions. Best ignored.
 
These last 2 results have left me impressed. If they could bring in a couple players I think the back half of the season could be really positive.

Must win Thursday to keep up the vibes. Hopefully they fill their boots.
 
pocco said:
He beat City 4-1 with Sporting playing on the counter, and even after that game he said he won’t be able to approach big games like that with us. That was after taking City to the cleaners.

He’s said himself he wants to control games and be assertive? But I think it was clear today that they were a level above technically, we weren’t going to outplay them with the team we had out there at this stage.

Just be happy we found a way for now. I said at half time it’d have to be a monumental team talk and some clever tweaks to turn the tide as they were far better the first 45. And we did it. Even more surprisingly, we did it with 10 men whilst players finally worked their bollocks off and left it all out there. So not a technical masterclass, but equally refreshing for us all to see I think.
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That’s how i see it. With possession savvy top sides this doesn’t sound very sustainable but with the current squad this is the best he can manage. He has managed to instill fight and determination. So positive for the future
 
AltiUn said:
Exactly. I'd rather it be an issue of personnel than the system. Couldn't get over people saying he needs to drop his system after a month, I'm pretty knee-jerk and even I thought that reaction was OTT.
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There were posters who I think are great in general saying this and I was as surprised as you.

The two big reasons being that we hired him for the football he played so why would we want him to change his style straight away? That was the problem with ten Hag. We got him because of the football he played at Ajax and then he ended up saying he couldn't play that way here. Baffling.

Second reason being that his system had already started looking the business. We were creating plenty of chances, outplaying big teams away from home in City and Spurs, which we hadn't done since probably van Gaal, but were being let down by individual mistakes. I still don't get how there were a relatively big section of the fanbase who couldn't recognise the positives already.

We're still a very inconsistent team so we'll inevitably drop more points (which Amorim pointed out straight away). Let's see if the fans who were losing their minds prior to the Liverpool game remember games like this and realise that, despite losing every now and then, we are making obvious progress that will be even more recognisable after Amorim gets some better players in and a preseason.
 
This season looked like a lost cause after the Newcastle match. In two of the most difficult matches possible since, Amorim has shown his commitment to the cause and he's been able to get that back from more players than I think any of us expected. We won't have a great season ultimately, we just don't have enough talent right now. But it absolutely can still be used to create the culture we need to succeed meaningfully again. Bring on the "lesser" matches and let's see if everyone is still up for it.
 
Good game management (brave subs repaid faith). The structure is relatively stable. The offense is still a bit clunky.
 
Definitely some positive signs, we’re still in two cup competitions. There’s no reason why we can’t finish with some silverware this season and have a route back to European football next year.
 
McLvnsMuse said:
Good game management (brave subs repaid faith). The structure is relatively stable. The offense is still a bit clunky.
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Yeah. I should learn by now. But every time he subs one of the cb’s I think “what are you doing” but it never really makes much of a difference. Which is actually a great sign. We are blessed with 4 top quality CB’s, Lindalof & Evans can also do a job.
 
DRJosh said:
Every win and loss feels like a step in the right direction.
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I’m genuinely looking forward to the day where win playing badly and fan base are like “that wasn’t good enough” as opposed to previous eras where we’ve just lapped it up.
 
Makes some really ballsy calls, especially with his subs. Getting Colleyer on instead of Case, Yoro at that moment of the match. Love his pressers too.

Also, I don't get all the negative talk. We were one man down and no how deadly they can be when given space. And it's not like we were not going for the win, especially during set pieces, sending so many players up. Very brave performance, more of the same please!
 
I'm amazed we managed to progress through with 10 man.

I always feel like historically we rarely have good results with 10 men against the top teams.

Credit to him, the staff and the players.
 
Xeque_279 said:
Makes some really ballsy calls, especially with his subs. Getting Colleyer on instead of Case, Yoro at that moment of the match. Love his pressers too.

Also, I don't get all the negative talk. We were one man down and no how deadly they can be when given space. And it's not like we were not going for the win, especially during set pieces, sending so many players up. Very brave performance, more of the same please!
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It usually feels like most the cafe wants us to lose so they can go, ha I told you he was rubbish, he should be sacked, formation sucks etc etc..
 
It may sound cliche but I think Amorim is the one to get us back to where United belong. As long as club management doesn't sabotage him he looks the real deal. Full focus. He has total trust in his abilities and his system. Unfeathered by journos trying to ruffle his feathers. Because he knows he didn't come here to compete. He came here to dominate. It also comes at a perfect time when Klopp and Guardiola time is coming to an end and a new era can begin. Trust the process.
 
Think he is on the right track. For all the calls that it's Southampton that is the big test, our record away to the top sides has been atrocious for years now. The fight and desire seems to be back and that's the first step needed when the quality isn't there.

If we have that same work rate against Southampton I'm confident we'll win as our quality will shine through.

Be interesting if we sign anyone this January, whilst I'd love the club to back him and sign someone it should only happen if it's the same players we would sign in the summer. The season is basically a write off, so I don't want us signing stop gaps or punts based on availability. Next season is where we should be aiming to hit the ground running.
 
Amorim is doing the business. Since after the first 30 mins of the Newcastle game when he brought Mainoo into midfield and with Ugarte back we look solid. The most solid we’ve looked in a very long time. Every time we lost the ball under ETH both this season and last the opposition walked through our centre at will.

Amorim has experienced that on a good few occasions but his shape, pressing and hard work ethics are now coming through. This isn’t an overnight fix. Let’s now score some goals and pick up points whilst continuing with the shape, off the ball work and desire. If we can do that we can get back into the top half maybe top 8.
 
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