Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

[dogwithabone]

I really admire the fact that he doesn't criticise referees and doesn't talk about bad refereeing decisions.. However my worry is referees will give 50/50s and big decisions against us now because they know our manager won't call them out.

Yeah but the world is still watching and referees will know they can’t perform as badly as yesterday and get away with it. I’ll be surprised if Madley isn’t dropped by his superiors for the next round of games - everyone saw the utter ineptness of his performance yesterday, even if RA chooses to keep a dignified silence.

 

[MrBest]

Best form of attack is a solid defence. We have slowly been building that with the new system. I like the start we have seen. He said it, we will have to suffer and this was a reference to the players, to sort out there weak mentality. 2 very tough away games in a row, who on earth would have though we wouldn't lose either, I thought we would be taken to cleaners easily. The team has started to show they can play together for each other. Southampton is a big game for us, how do we deal against a smaller team? Can we get a few goals and apply more control? I'm liking what I see so far, small steps is needed, he cannot change 25 players overnight.

 

[flameinthesun]

Under Amorin, there's a character, spirit and fight in the team that I haven't seen for a long long time.

He's not afraid to make decisions that are best for the team, including using substitutions bravely and tactically and the dropping those providing an unwelcome distraction.

Still think its way too early. The same plaudits were being given to Ten Hag and Ole early on. The United teams were always capable of raising their levels for games vs rivals every now and then. Its this next run of games where we need to see a true difference. At the moment, everything said about Amorim was said about Ten Hag after half a season in.

 

[PlasticRed]

Still think its way too early. The same plaudits were being given to Ten Hag and Ole early on. The United teams were always capable of raising their levels for games vs rivals every now and then. Its this next run of games where we need to see a true difference. At the moment, everything said about Amorim was said about Ten Hag after half a season in.

I respectfully disagree. You can see already RA is a good tactician. He just needs better tools to work with.

 

[reelworld]

He needs to be given time, you need to get behind him and the team, even if you feel like you don’t like player A or player B so much. I’m not a United supporter as I have my own club (Benfica) but now I am here with all of you for this journey.



It’s not going to be easy, there will be a lot of “storms” on the way but trust me, he is him.

He can handle everything the press throws at him with ease, he’s young and willing to learn and got lots of room for improvement in many areas.



I know today’s display wasn’t the best in the attacking sense but we also need to be reasonable enough to understand the team’s moment and who you just faced. Away at the Emirates against an Arsenal team that desperately needed that W to turn it around after that Newcastle game, it was never going to be easy.



Until the send off it was a pretty even game but as you’d expect things change but there wasn’t a lot the team could do but fight and show grit and that’s exactly what we did and we need to applaud that and be positive instead of looking for things to complain about.



Bruno was magnificent, Maguire is a completely different player under Amorim I can hardly recognise him, Ugarte and Mainoo make a good partnership.



Take my hat off to him, he made some difficult decisions in leaving out Garnacho and Rashford and that sent a clear message to the rest of the squad.



He’s already figured out who he can trust, it was easy from an outside perspective for the likes of me, players like Casemiro, Eriksen, Antony, Rashford are nowhere near the level that is expected in this football club. You can tell by their limited usage in the past weeks that they’ve been crossed out, the board needs to take control of the situation and offload them.



Bring in a LWB, CAM and ST and this man will cook. He needs full backing and if previous managers have had their backing, he deserves the same. He’s known for making omelettes with no eggs but that doesn’t mean he can make miracles with this squad.



One thing that leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth is Mctominay’s departure, I know he wasn’t exactly loved by this fan base but I could have seen him being a very important player under him. He’d fit his system like a glove and was a player that always showed passion when on the pitch (in my honest opinion).



Excited for you guys and what the future brings. Good luck guys and take good care of him.

McT as one of the 10s is an intriguing thought, I must admit

 

[flameinthesun]

I respectfully disagree. You can see already RA is a good tactician. He just needs better tools to work with.

Same was said about Ten Hag. I think Amorim is a good coach however, its still very early.

 

[Escobar]

How anyone can complain after that game is beyond me. All against us, yet we win. Brilliant by the team but especially the manager how he built that spirit

 

[hellhunter]

Same was said about Ten Hag. I think Amorim is a good coach however, its still very early.

Not disagreeing with you. As a fanbase, you want to be hopeful and see signs of improvement. We did with Ole and we also did with ETH, like you said.

The difference between our previous two managers and Amorim for me is that you can see what he wants to do. You can see his signature in the way we play, something I felt was always lacking under ETH. Whether that will be enough remains to be seen, but reason enough for me to be optimistic

 

[Marwood]

Under Amorin, there's a character, spirit and fight in the team that I haven't seen for a long long time.

He's not afraid to make decisions that are best for the team, including using substitutions bravely and tactically and the dropping those providing an unwelcome distraction.

I think the team has always been capable of fight and spirit in these games. The cup final last year we showed it under ETH.

Agree with those who say we shouldn't get carried away about Amorim just yet(although I want to).

 

[Longshanks]

I actually think we were quite poor at times yesterday, we defended well and kept arsenal relatively quiet, but we really struggled particuly first half to get out and get hold of the ball or really hurt arsenal.

Started the second half better, got the goal and than the red card set the game up to be attack Vs defence really.

Credit though for he has got us in a properly organised defensive structure, and you do need that going away to arsenal and Liverpool and we have come away with positive results from both.

The next three games now will be interesting, there all.games you would expect us to get something out of he has some time with them on the training pitch he is begining to get a settled side, can the team deliver for him?

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Same was said about Ten Hag. I think Amorim is a good coach however, its still very early.

There is one major difference, an obvious one.

Ten Hag abandoned his style after Brighton & Brentford, Amorim didn't, even after some horrible losses at home, he still insisted on his style, despite the fact that the squad lacks proper strikers and wing backs.

but I'll give you that Ten Hag was praised once he solidified the team and made them hard to beat.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

I actually think we were quite poor at times yesterday, we defended well and kept arsenal relatively quiet, but we really struggled particuly first half to get out and get hold of the ball or really hurt arsenal.

Started the second half better, got the goal and than the red card set the game up to be attack Vs defence really.

Credit though for he has got us in a properly organised defensive structure, and you do need that going away to arsenal and Liverpool and we have come away with positive results from both.

The next three games now will be interesting, there all.games you would expect us to get something out of he has some time with them on the training pitch he is begining to get a settled side, can the team deliver for him?

Agree with the bolded, not hating on the game's hero Altay, but his ability on the ball meant we had to go long and even then, Altay's kicking was shit all game, Onana is quite good and passing quickly from his first touch to kicking long and even finding the spare man at times, that's why we could not establish a foothold on the game, Arsenal knew this and pressed extremely aggressively.

Against Arsenal in the league, away to City & Liverpool, we were able to keep the ball and sustain pressure, and forced the oppo teams stand off and not press our backline.

 

[flameinthesun]

There is one major difference, an obvious one.

Ten Hag abandoned his style after Brighton & Brentford, Amorim didn't, even after some horrible losses at home, he still insisted on his style, despite the fact that the squad lacks proper strikers and wing backs.

but I'll give you that Ten Hag was praised once he solidified the team and made them hard to beat.

Not disagreeing with you. As a fanbase, you want to be hopeful and see signs of improvement. We did with Ole and we also did with ETH, like you said.

The difference between our previous two managers and Amorim for me is that you can see what he wants to do. You can see his signature in the way we play, something I felt was always lacking under ETH. Whether that will be enough remains to be seen, but reason enough for me to be optimistic

Sticking to the formation I'll give you both, although I could make an argument that Amorim has gone a bit more defensive with the wingbacks (maybe forced to do so, however, you could say Ten Hag was forced to go defensive as well in his first season). It's the aspects of we are finally showing fight, finally organised, finally turned the corner, finally showing tactical acumen. This team has had many false dawns under many managers. So far apart from playing 5 at the back (which is what we have been playing in a lot of games instead of 3 at the back), there is nothing so far for me to say things have really changed. With this team as always under every manager is the lack of consistency in performances. If Amorim can get that going then I'll personally start sipping the kool aid. At the moment I'll enjoy the ride and see how it plays out.

 

[Longshanks]

Agree with the bolded, not hating on the game's hero Altay, but his ability on the ball meant we had to go long and even then, Altay's kicking was shit all game, Onana is quite good and passing quickly from his first touch to kicking long and even finding the spare man at times, that's why we could not establish a foothold on the game, Arsenal knew this and pressed extremely aggressively.

Against Arsenal in the league, away to City & Liverpool, we were able to keep the ball and sustain pressure, and forced the oppo teams stand off and not press our backline.

Yeah I was cursing altay up until his penalty save and heroics afterwards. Our distribution plan was quite simple hit it long towards our left attacking channel and try and win it from there. But altay kept sailing them out of play. Then his weak punch which he should caught that led to the equaliser.

Amazing how things can change and he is now quite rightly man of the match. Yes hopefully with Onana in the team we will see that control return.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Sticking to the formation I'll give you both, although I could make an argument that Amorim has gone a bit more defensive with the wingbacks (maybe forced to do so, however, you could say Ten Hag was forced to go defensive as well in his first season). It's the aspects of we are finally showing fight, finally organised, finally turned the corner, finally showing tactical acumen. This team has had many false dawns under many managers. So far apart from playing 5 at the back (which is what we have been playing in a lot of games instead of 3 at the back), there is nothing so far for me to say things have really changed. With this team as always under every manager is the lack of consistency in performances. If Amorim can get that going then I'll personally start sipping the kool aid. At the moment I'll enjoy the ride and see how it plays out.

a back-3 formation, even with attacking wingbacks, is by nature and design a secure and a defensive style, I think what Amorim wants to achieve is to make us secure defensively and with the ability to dominate a game and sustain attacks, just like he did with Sporting, also be flexible enough based on the opponent he is facing.

What I am saying is, Amorim has not departed from his philosophy, as he is known for having his team be solid defensively and fluid offensively, as of now, we do not have the personnel in WBs role that will allow for the fluid attacks but the team has shown to be able to defend well as a unit, thanks to Amorim's coaching.

Another thing, you are not wrong in being cautious, I'm also open minded and not getting carried away, jury is still out but I am optimistic about Amorim for one reason, he has the backing of the management, and the players can't hide anymore, they either show up and play well or be sidelined, Amorim has the mandate now.

 

[Adz_99]

If you exclude those 3 horror games over Christmas then we've actually been consistently good under Amorim.

I wonder what happened against Bournemouth, Newcastle and Wolves because those matches look completely at odds with what we've seen in every other game.

 

[PlasticRed]

If you exclude those 3 horror games over Christmas then we've actually been consistently good under Amorim.

I wonder what happened against Bournemouth, Newcastle and Wolves because those matches look completely at odds with what we've seen in every other game.

Possibly didnt know his best team and experimented too much.

 

[crossy1686]

When was the last time we won a game with 10 men, against a top side to boot

 

[crossy1686]

Possibly didnt know his best team and experimented too much.

I didn't agree with all the back line changes but it was probably important for him to do that so the players felt like they had been given a fair chance at proving themselves under a new manager. He seems to be more settled now everyone got a chance.

 

[reelworld]

Same was said about Ten Hag. I think Amorim is a good coach however, its still very early.

Amorim in game management is already miles better than ten Hag

 

[romufc]

If you exclude those 3 horror games over Christmas then we've actually been consistently good under Amorim.

I wonder what happened against Bournemouth, Newcastle and Wolves because those matches look completely at odds with what we've seen in every other game.

We had to rotate alot in those games as well. Wolves we were down to 10 man for the whole second half as well.

Those performances were always going to happen when a manager says this is the only way I want to play and no time to train. Players were not used to the style or had much training.

The fact that RA stuck to his guns and said... No, I am not changing and kept his principles shows the manager he is.

I hope we now kick on and beat Southampton because that is just a big of a game.

 

[Sarni]

If you exclude those 3 horror games over Christmas then we've actually been consistently good under Amorim.

I wonder what happened against Bournemouth, Newcastle and Wolves because those matches look completely at odds with what we've seen in every other game.

Bournemouth game wasn't even that bad, I mean the result was horrific but before their second goal (which was quickly followed by a third) we had many opportunities to go level and even take a lead, missing multiple chances. Play the same first half 10 times over and we are probably down in no more than 1 or 2 of these scenarios.

Wolves was a cagey affair before Bruno's red, could have gone either way and while performance wasn't great, you can have one like this every now and again. Newcastle was pure horror but we were basically without midfield.

 

[klayton88]

Maybe because of the stubbornness and shit in game management of ETH, but just seeing Amorin making changes before the 80th minute is great. Everybody for the most part is being rotated and throwing that extra energy on ten minutes earlier and being proactive makes a hell of a difference.

 

[Ace of Spades]

If you exclude those 3 horror games over Christmas then we've actually been consistently good under Amorim.

I wonder what happened against Bournemouth, Newcastle and Wolves because those matches look completely at odds with what we've seen in every other game.

Can't remember the Bournemouth game, but for Newcastle we were without Ugarte and Bruno because of suspension. Wolves was the game where Bruno got the red which led to the suspension for the next game.

Just players making dumb mistakes, and even in this (Arsenal) game we still had that. We just have stopped giving soft goals, and we don't make too many mistakes after one is made.

 

[crossy1686]

Same was said about Ten Hag. I think Amorim is a good coach however, its still very early.

Ten Hag’s game management and man management was poor from the beginning and throughout. The only thing you can currently criticise Amorim for at this point is his rotation policy.

 

[crossy1686]

Maybe because of the stubbornness and shit in game management of ETH, but just seeing Amorin making changes before the 80th minute is great. Everybody for the most part is being rotated and throwing that extra energy on ten minutes earlier and being proactive makes a hell of a difference.

It’s great because it’s a manager with a plan, reacting to what’s happening on the pitch and trying to win the game. Under Ten Hag it was just more of the same and subs that didn’t make sense. The most annoying thing was that it was clear it wasn’t working and he had no idea how to change it, Amorim seems to make game changing subs when needed.

 

[Fitchett]

When was the last time we won a game with 10 men, against a top side to boot

1999 FA Cup Semi Final replay against Arsenal? After a penalty save as well.

 

[AltiUn]

If you exclude those 3 horror games over Christmas then we've actually been consistently good under Amorim.

I wonder what happened against Bournemouth, Newcastle and Wolves because those matches look completely at odds with what we've seen in every other game.

Wolves was the idiotic red card at 0-0 and Newcastle was a case of us missing our 2 best players as a consequence of the Wolves game.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Can you name a season where Fergie consistently played a Cup Keeper? Or just even regularly rotated a clear number 1 with a backup?

He definitely used his backup keepers more than ETH and Amorin (up to recently). Romero was used in the EL until the final post SAF.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Hoping this isn't another false dawn, but there's possible green shoots emerging

I'm hoping he's drilling the right mentality into them as Bruno said again about its not acceptable to only put in this level of effort against the arsenal's and Liverpools of this world, it should be every single game. I expect to see it against Southampton and Will be annoyed if I don't.

I want to see more composure after we've scored, we still seem to love to shoot ourselves in the foot where we are at sixes and sevens and players make stupid decisions. That 10 minutes after Brunos goal and the opening 15-20 minutes aside I thought we were very good, and played as a team. Didn't rely on individual brilliance, everyone played their part

I think we would have lost that game under ETH when we went down to 10

I'd like to see RA call out the referees where needed, today was shocking, but I don't think he said anything did he? Klopp, while he drove me mad, would have absolutely gone apocalyptic, and annoyingly, it gets them decisions. SAF would also have gone ballistic.

Maybe he wants to get himself more established in the PL and United in a better position before calling out referees. Doing it can backfire if you are not careful. It might not be his style.

 

[AmorimEra99]

The last time we won against a top opposition with 10 men was against arsenal at the Emirates under Jose Mourinho in 2017/18 season.
So proud of Amorim, can’t wait to see us compete under him.

 

[crossy1686]

1999 FA Cup Semi Final replay against Arsenal? After a penalty save as well.

Fecking hell, no wonder it felt like a lifetime ago

 

[flameinthesun]

Ten Hag’s game management and man management was poor from the beginning and throughout. The only thing you can currently criticise Amorim for at this point is his rotation policy.

Amorim in game management is already miles better than ten Hag

I mean, Ten Hag was getting praised for his in game management after we beat Pool and Arsenal, as well as his man management in his first season after the opening defeats, Ronaldo, getting Rashford back into form etc.

The point being, Amorim is doing well so far in my eyes, but lets not go overboard with him. There is a long way to go. As it stands I wouldn't say he is showing anything drastically different from the first season hypes of our other managers (Moyes aside).

 

[Judas]

People wanted to praise Ten Hag to think we were onto something, to the point where things were being praised that weren’t even a reality. The difference with Amorim is so stark already. He might end up not being the one, nothing is certain, but the signs are a lot more promising under him.

He believes in himself a lot more than Ten Hag ever did. Ten Hag, be it a language barrier, spoke absolute waffle, which most gave up on paying attention to alarmingly quick.

 

[JoaoFM]

2 full weeks for training before the last 2 matches, and you see the difference.
As he did in Sporting in 2021 the team is being organised from the defense. Once that is done, you will see the attacking game settling in

 

[romufc]

People wanted to praise Ten Hag to think we were onto something, to the point where things were being praised that weren’t even a reality. The difference with Amorim is so stark already. He might end up not being the one, nothing is certain, but the signs are a lot more promising under him.

He believes in himself a lot more than Ten Hag ever did. Ten Hag, be it a language barrier, spoke absolute waffle, which most gave up on paying attention to alarmingly quick.

The difference imo is clear. Ten Hag lost the dressing room because he had 1 rule for 1 player and another rule for the rest.

Rashford got numerous chances whilst other players were quick to be punished.

He signed his players then said he doesnt have players to play Ajax way... which is what he was brought in for.

Amorim, on the other hand has started with his principles and said adapt or leave basically. He wont change the system to suit the players, the players need to change. That is how it should be, if you believe in something, stick with it.

I have always looked at how teams play, you can tell when a team is going to be good. When we play under Amorim, I get that feeling because we dont get bullied as much and we keep the ball alot better.

 

[TheGame]

Ten Hag’s game management and man management was poor from the beginning and throughout. The only thing you can currently criticise Amorim for at this point is his rotation policy.

That is something personally I would not criticise him for but would say it was one of ETH's weaknesses. Keeping players fresh over a long season over multiple competitions so they don't run out of steam at the end is a tough ask. Rotation is important and players need to be trusted. That's why a squad and subs are important.

 

[Jingaling7]

McT as one of the 10s is an intriguing thought, I must admit

really isnt.. he cant create nor does he ever move.. this fan base just love mediocrity

 

[TheGame]

People wanted to praise Ten Hag to think we were onto something, to the point where things were being praised that weren’t even a reality. The difference with Amorim is so stark already. He might end up not being the one, nothing is certain, but the signs are a lot more promising under him.

He believes in himself a lot more than Ten Hag ever did. Ten Hag, be it a language barrier, spoke absolute waffle, which most gave up on paying attention to alarmingly quick.

Don't agree with this, ETH got his praise for turning it around after a bad start in the first season and rightly so. We were playing some good stuff but we tailed off towards the end. It would be stupid to rewrite history and say he shouldn't be praised for that.

I do agree in terms of the second point where Amorim is a much better communicator.

 

[astracrazy]

2 full weeks for training before the last 2 matches, and you see the difference.
As he did in Sporting in 2021 the team is being organised from the defense. Once that is done, you will see the attacking game settling in

This has been said many times, we are seeing it in action and yet for some reason some posters completely ignore it.