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Some questionable decisions today.
I think we need to be realistic however and realise that we ain’t dominating these games anytime soon. The first half was actually the most organised we’ve looked for ages. Nobody looked like scoring in open play. Everyone kept their cool. As soon as the first goal went in, players started to shit the bed. We dont have the players to go to these grounds and dominate, I guess what I’m trying to say is even when we did have the great man and the players we still struggled in a lot of these games.I do agree that, that football under SAF was a hard watch at times but that football wouldn't hold up in this era.
We never went toe to toe with any of the 'big 6' under ten Hag, that's why his record against them was so poor, we always showed them too much respect and was set up to sit in and counter.
Fourth.His hands are somewhat tied with the fitness of the squad but it was too timid a set up and tactical instruction (we were clearly wasting time in the first half).
Only his third(?) game in charge. We won’t hold it too hard against him.
Bottled it hard tonight. Why talk about us suffering and taking time to learn new things only to then play ultra cowardly football? Would have been way more understanding and forgiving if we atleast showed some intent to attack.
Multiple times we had the opportunity on the break in the first half which we did not pursue at all. Gave Arsenal way too much respect. And they were only too happy to let us have the ball as we did feck all with it. Controlling the possession is nonsense and useless if we don't do anything with it. It's like City being happy with 70% possession in the FA Cup final when they did feck all with it in the first half.
Disappointed with how negative we were. Arsenal were missing 3 of their first choice defence. We should have tried to work them more. In the end it was all too comfortable for them.
In that case, sack the bastard now!Fourth.
Same. It’s our best chance at achieving Europa League football.
No one really cares what you thinkBottled it hard tonight. Why talk about us suffering and taking time to learn new things only to then play ultra cowardly football? Would have been way more understanding and forgiving if we atleast showed some intent to attack.
Multiple times we had the opportunity on the break in the first half which we did not pursue at all. Gave Arsenal way too much respect. And they were only too happy to let us have the ball as we did feck all with it. Controlling the possession is nonsense and useless if we don't do anything with it. It's like City being happy with 70% possession in the FA Cup final when they did feck all with it in the first half.
Disappointed with how negative we were. Arsenal were missing 3 of their first choice defence. We should have tried to work them more. In the end it was all too comfortable for them.
Don't have a problem at all with us going with a safety first approach. We've suffered so many humiliations in recent years so very understandable that Amorim wanted to avoid that.It wasnt at all. Dalot and malacia contributed 0 to our attack in the 1st half not even a cross from both.
Shit. I do.Do you mean Champions League, mate?
wtf?Bottled it hard tonight.
Bottled it hard tonight. Why talk about us suffering and taking time to learn new things only to then play ultra cowardly football? Would have been way more understanding and forgiving if we atleast showed some intent to attack.
Multiple times we had the opportunity on the break in the first half which we did not pursue at all. Gave Arsenal way too much respect. And they were only too happy to let us have the ball as we did feck all with it. Controlling the possession is nonsense and useless if we don't do anything with it. It's like City being happy with 70% possession in the FA Cup final when they did feck all with it in the first half.
Disappointed with how negative we were. Arsenal were missing 3 of their first choice defence. We should have tried to work them more. In the end it was all too comfortable for them.
The Chosen One or the Special One. Can he make us whole again?He is still the one.
I'm simply sharing my thoughts here, as others have done. However, my perspective differs from others. I'm not sure if you have any issue with me, but if you truly don't care about what I think, you can just not reply at all. It's really that simple.No one really cares what you think
Clearly we’re not set up to attack in the first half. It was a containment mission. That why we played fullbacks and not wingers.It wasnt at all. Dalot and malacia contributed 0 to our attack in the 1st half not even a cross from both.
Please be quiet now.I'm simply sharing my thoughts here, as others have done. However, my perspective differs from others. I'm not sure if you have any issue with me, but if you truly don't care about what I think, you can just not reply at all. It's really that simple.
Amad was absolutely gassed after Everton. We also set up much more defensively.Team he put out was horrible but I suppose he had no choice. Amad should definitely have started though.
I can see the system taking shape but it looks like a system that can only succeed with lots of athletic and technical players, which we have few of.
Oh look it's the usual suspects being ridiculous in the manager thread
I'm not expecting us to dominate them, just have a go at least, if we got suckered on a counter then so be it. Tonight we just didn't show any intent to go and hurt them until it was too late.I think we need to be realistic however and realise that we ain’t dominating these games anytime soon. The first half was actually the most organised we’ve looked for ages. Nobody looked like scoring in open play. Everyone kept their cool. As soon as the first goal went in, players started to shit the bed. We dont have the players to go to these grounds and dominate, I guess what I’m trying to say is even when we did have the great man and the players we still struggled in a lot of these games.
I definitely did and we never once went toe to toe with a big team. We always sat in and countered as ten Hag himself said he wanted us to be the best transitional side.Yeah I don't think you actually watched us last year then.
And not sure what else you want us to do, we didnt' "sit in" at all and generally pressed high. We just don't have the quality in possession to progress the ball through the lines and create chances consistently against a top side. That has nothing to do with Amorim or any other coach. Just go through the names on that team sheet and it should be obvious:
Bruno: good creator, lacks any sort of pace or dribbling ability so is forced to release passes under pressure
Garnacho: poor technically, better off the ball than on it right now
Hojlund: poor techincally, solid finisher but is never going to trouble a defender of Saliba's level
Mount: Good tehnically but very safe as a player and generally is just a body to run around as he offers very little on the ball
Ugarte: one of the few that can hang both from a physical and technical level. Surprise surprise, he had a good game today
Malacia: Poor going forward and just coming back from injury.
Dalot: Good technically and physically, but poor decision maker in the attacking third.
That group of 7 players just isn't going to threaten any top level side. Bruno is the only real creator and he has his own flaws, while the rest don't progress the ball nor create particularly well with many often being actually poor under pressure. So instead you see a first half where they are all playing it safe and the few times we had a chance to break through or put arsenal under pressure we feck up the execution.
Other than the Amad decision I thought the team was one picked for energy and workrate and it largely worked. He must have been disappointed by Antony, Zirkzee and Rashford when they came on though.Team he put out was horrible but I suppose he had no choice. Amad should definitely have started though.
I can see the system taking shape but it looks like a system that can only succeed with lots of athletic and technical players, which we have few of.
Agree! To be fair I think the plan was to keep the ball, take the sting out of it, then second half Rash and big ZZ to win it for us. Which is quite a sound idea.Set up was fine and we defended pretty well in open play. He clearly wanted us to keep the ball but we were just a bit too safe with it at times. On the flip side, it was nice to see us not give it away every 5 seconds and create a basketball match which we had a habit of doing under ETH.
We all knew we were going to lose though. We're miles away from these teams, especially going forward.
Both and yes.The Chosen One or the Special One. Can he make us whole again?
A hard watch? Up until the early 200s we went toe to toe - great entertaining battles. Pretty much after that, we aggressively bullied them year on year with a few exceptions.I do agree that, that football under SAF was a hard watch at times but that football wouldn't hold up in this era.
Just sharing my thoughts mate. I felt he could have got us attacking a bit in the first half but we were way too defensive and passed back even when we had the opportunity to attack. And it was not just one player doing it, all of them were doing the same. Which makes me think it was due to instructions from the coach and not the players.wtf?
What makes you so sure it was the coaching and not the players?Just sharing my thoughts mate. I felt he could have got us attacking a bit in the first half but we were way too defensive and passed back even when we had the opportunity to attack. And it was not just one player doing it, all of them were doing the same. Which makes me think it was due to instructions from the coach and not the players.
Yeah what are you moaning about? We didn’t concede from open play away from home to the title challengers which means our setup was good.People saying the setup was good but almost conceded 3 from a corner oops