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Ross Barkley
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When he was spouting bollocks about how he would let Fellaini and Baines go to bigger clubs if SAF came in for them rather than hold out for as much money as he could.
My best mates an evertonian, so for years it's was sort of a second club... More to do with knowledge of club players fans etc than actually wishing well. Shame really but it is understandable for me why they've taken a massive dislike to him.
You don't go to a new club, and say 'now I'm at United, we go to the big teams to win' without expecting a backlash from your former club who in their own right are a huge club.
You don't go to a new club, and say 'now I'm at United, we go to the big teams to win' without expecting a backlash from your former club who in their own right are a huge club.
Moyes was always gonna be disliked by the Everton faithful sooner or later. It's only natural. Can you imagine Fergie remaining popular with the Aberdonians had he taken the hot seat at Rangers way back when? I greatly respect Everton but if Moyes is the right man for United he doesn't give a flying feck about what their fans think of him.
Apparently he's better than Julian Draxler......
How did you get promoted Ramshock is what I want to know.
By giving your bird a baby fenian
I assume this is a reference to your tiny cock?By giving your bird a baby fenian
I normally refer to mine as Commandant Bigstuff, but I suppose baby fenian does suit yours.
Please make him a United player. Cheers Dave.
He'll go to Chelsea with Lukaku in the shakeup next year. Lampard, Torres, Ba, Eto'o and Mata all out.
I'd be gutted if he went anywhere else Zen. This boy is quality.
Agreed. Rooney to Chelsea, Barkley to United then.
I'm glad that he didn't play but it was stupid that Townsend was given a chance and he wasn't. They've been just as good as each other in the PL this year, with Barkley probably the better of the two. If you're not going to play him then let him get the game time in the U-21s.
Townsend plays in a position that was there for the taking in this current squad where as Barkley needed to get past Rooney and Sturridge. I think the experience of being with the senior squad for the last week or so will be more beneficial long term than playing an U21 game.
Because they play in the same position, right?
Wasn't really stupid to be fair. Walcott and the Ox were injured which allowed a chance for a forward thinking winger to play, anyone Barkley could of played in for weren't injured. He's only starting any time soon if Rooneys forced to go up top, opening up that slot for him, otherwise he's Rooney sub for now. He's not going to be asked to play in a deeper 2 midfield, when Gerrard is guaranteed to be other, it'll end up between Carrick/Wilshere if both are fit and in form by next summer.
Exactly. The Right wing position is free for the taking, the No.10 position is swamped right now. He will get his chance after the World cup though.
Great prospect, but largely out of pure sentiment, I'd prefer to bring Ravel back. Ravel and a good young defensive minded midfielder and we'd be set.
To be honest, with Barkley, Ravel, or any other player best suited to a 3 man midfield, the problem is, and has always been Rooney. He is currently a gift and a curse to the side, in the sense that despite being a talented player, he single-handedly ensures the team plays a slightly dated system. 4-3-3 is where the money's at.
To be honest, with Barkley, Ravel, or any other player best suited to a 3 man midfield, the problem is, and has always been Rooney. He is currently a gift and a curse to the side, in the sense that despite being a talented player, he single-handedly ensures the team plays a slightly dated system. 4-3-3 is where the money's at.
Ravel, Barkley and Januzaj. Where's the drooler?
I think buying RvP did that more than Rooney really, if we didn't have RvP I think Rooney would be played as a lone striker a lot more. As it stands we have RvP who will always start which means Rooney has to play deeper.
Where Rooney plays for United has never effected how England use him. Though this is the first time he's seemingly thriving in both at the same time.....as he's actually playing a similar role for both.
Stupid in the sense that if you're not going to play him then let him play in the U21s. Stupid in the sense that he's been better and is in better form than all of England's CM options this year. Yes, he's been playing as the furthest forward of a 3 man midfield for us but he's able to play box to box. It was a risk worth taking as Montenegro are a poor side, and if he had a good game he'd flow straight into the Poland game like Townsend did.
So you are suggesting starting him in a 2 man midfield in a game England really needed to win? I don't think that would have been a smart move on Woy's part, and I think spending the week training with the senior squad and being part of a big week for England will do him more good than playing another U21 game.
Lot of hype for a player who is still incredibly raw.
Three man midfield.
Carrick - Wilshere - Barkley
Sturridge - Rooney - Welbeck
Or something along those lines, maybe Townsend instead of Sturridge/Welbeck.Not really, id rather we were giving our youth players consistent game time. At least if he is playing for the U21s he would be playing consistently at international level until he gets a go in the first team for England seniors.
The thing is playing Townsed worked out, Sturridge is arguably the in form striker in the league and Woy seems to prefer Rooney a bit deeper. I think playing U21 international football is no big deal at this stage for Barkley as he is now playing PL football week in and week out, but just being around the senior set up can add experience and also a goal as he's now seen what it's like to be involved with the National squad at that next level.
I think it would benefit the national side to have our best available U21 players playing at that level as a team so they make the step up with ease rather than sitting on the bench and not getting the proper international experience of actually playing.
He's more in form than both in the league this year and will only get better. He will be better than Cleverley and he has the potential to be as good as Gerrard (who was a superb player and it will take a lot of effort to get to that level).
Definitely. Roy was right a few days ago when he said that now isn't the time to tinker with the team. Would not be smart to play him yet.
I agree with you that he could be a dark horse to go for sure. But no wasn't really the time to call him up. At the end of the season it will be interestingfor sure.
Whilst Barkley is a great prospect, and I'm not personally a fan of the Gerrard-Lampard duopoly, I understand completely Roy not playing him in these two games. He will rightly get chances in the upcoming friendlies. Roy was never going to play too many youngsters in these must-win games.
I hope England does a Germany and uses the World Cup more as an experiment and to give the youngsters a chance. Getting rid of Rio, Parker and Terry was good, if this continue with the likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Milner, Young, Barry etc it will be great.
I hope Barkley gets called for the World Cup.
I hope Barkley gets called for the World Cup.
Of course they won't. Even if you call up a player like Barkley he won't play because the old guard who got you there will get the nod.
Which is completely absurd. And it was the same in the last big tournament.
If players like Rio, Terry, Lampard, Gerrard etc couldn't do good for England even when they were the best in world in their position, how the hell anyone expects that they will do better when now they're much older and possibly out of form. If Gerrard-Lampard combo didn't worked even when both of them were in top 3 of Ballon D'Or list, I can't see how it can work almost a decade latter, when both of them aren't half as good as they were at that time.
If you had genuine quality coming up then I reckon Hodgson would be leaning towards using them rather than Gerrard more. Truth is Gerrard remains one of the very few English players demonstrating any leadership skills and he actually plays quite well for the country these days so it's not really a liability to have him in the team.
Lampard and Young are mainly squad players for England now, aren't they? I don't follow your games closely, only got the impression from Poland games.
With Milner it's not just the issue of him not being good enough but also with him representing the wrong sort of mentality that you should try to avoid whenever possible. A hard working winger whose main conribution is defensive is a terrible idea.
Truth is your up and coming youth players don't look half as promising as you'd like to think. Barkley does seem like a top talent but he's only become a regular at Everton this season, give him time and maybe he'll be able to turn it into a few caps. Hodgson hasn't really done that much wrong except for presenting slightly odd mentality.
Lampard and Young are mainly squad players for England now, aren't they? I don't follow your games closely, only got the impression from Poland games.
With Milner it's not just the issue of him not being good enough but also with him representing the wrong sort of mentality that you should try to avoid whenever possible. A hard working winger whose main conribution is defensive is a terrible idea.
Truth is your up and coming youth players don't look half as promising as you'd like to think. Barkley does seem like a top talent but he's only become a regular at Everton this season, give him time and maybe he'll be able to turn it into a few caps. Hodgson hasn't really done that much wrong except for presenting slightly odd mentality.
I find it interesting that this Milner choice gets so much criticism when Dortmund had Großkreutz as their first choice winger for a couple of (title-winning) seasons and his main contribution came through his stamina, defensive play, selflessness etc.
But Großkreutz at least offers something going the other way. Milner, invariably, offers nothing.
He's done the business (unfortunately) against us a few times mate. The 1-6 springs to mind.
I think, deepdown, that's why I'm so against the bloke... the only times I've ever seen him play well for City are games against us. There was that game and a game we lost at the Etihad in which he was also quite good... it's fecking annoying.
Still, they were both years ago.
Groskreutz is a Dortmund academy player and boyhood fan, who is happy to be benched just to play for his beloved club.
Milner is a player who got purchased for £30M. For that you would expect more than headless chicken running.
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