Rosenborg vs Manchester United (Mon 15th July, 17:00 UK time)

Not based on this game but in general, any chance we can ship Rashy off? His always depressed bad mood state infects the whole team.
 
It's a continuation of last season, just less fit.

With better players we will of course play better, but if we don't change the shape of the team or how we play, it will be another bad season.
 
He was slow and lethargic. But just a bit better than Rashford and Hannibal who, in my view, were terrible.
Good to know and only first game of pre season against a team in the middle of their season but you’d still expect players to put the effort in. ETH really has to be flogging them in to shape this preseason or he’ll be gone by Christmas.
 
Plenty of the players were playing last season in our under 21s that finished 12th. Its not too surprising that they werent as good as Rosenborg who are playing their league season. I was just dissappointed in how few good moments there were. Even in defeat you'd hope for a few flashes of promise in otherwise under par performances.
 
We're linked to him, right?
Been linked for almost a year now. I’d snap him up right now and loan him back. His raw technical ability is already certainly better than McTominay, Hannibal and the current Casemiro’s, but he needs to play week in week out.

Now, this part I’m not sure of, but according to Football Manager, his release clause is £3.4m. That is utterly ridiculous when you consider that Hannibal cost us £10m.
 
As soon as I saw the squad I knew this would be a nothing game not worth watching. Seems I was right.
 
Been linked for almost a year now. I’d snap him up right now and loan him back. His raw technical ability is already certainly better than McTominay, Hannibal and the current Casemiro’s, but he needs to play week in week out.

Now, this part I’m not sure of, but according to Football Manager, his release clause is £3.4m. That is utterly ridiculous when you consider that Hannibal cost us £10m.
Scandinavians are pretty cheap
 
Even Ten Hag is saying it wasn’t good enough. It’s not the end of the world but there are still standards.

Can he please not get on about "not good enough" already.

Just respond with something like "It was a good chance to get some minutes in the legs for the youngsters and some of the starters, the pre-season is going well and we are looking forward to the Premier League rolling around again"
 
Can he please not get on about "not good enough" already.

Just respond with something like "It was a good chance to get some minutes in the legs for the youngsters and some of the starters, the pre-season is going well and we are looking forward to the Premier League rolling around again"

That is only reserved for when we are getting battered by relegation fodder with close to a full squad.
 
Again we struggled very badly building out of the back and he was one of the reasons for that.

I don’t agree to be honest. I though while we as a team were poor at playing out from the back, the 3 or 4 times we did it well he was a key part of the plays. That was the reason I originally said he impressed me - because he looked the only player in either half who was doing the right things in that exact respect.
 
That was a bad game. Vitek & Ennis looked decent. Collyer was ok. The rest were terrible
 
You should tell this to ETH and his coaches, and the youth coaches. Since it's these kinds of opportunities that they'll use to decide whether he kicks a ball for the first team or spends a couple of years on low level loans and is then released, never to be heard from again.
Oh it’ll definitely be that and not how he does in those loans or how he performs with the first team in training.
 
I don’t agree to be honest. I though while we as a team were poor at playing out from the back, the 3 or 4 times we did it well he was a key part of the plays. That was the reason I originally said he impressed me - because he looked the only player in either half who was doing the right things in that exact respect.

Yes of course he was involved in the 2 times we did it okay, as were all the other players who did it poorly overall
 
We play this friendly, in this manner, against similar opposition with a similar squad every fecking year, and people are legitimately complaining?

They never look like footballers until they go on tour, and even then it’s only 45 mins worth.
 
Friendly or not, absolutely disgusting performance

Same old issues, clueless in beating the press with the ball, clueless in executing the press without the ball
 
1st pre season game, few "first team" players, lots of youth. Against a Champs level opponent who are well under way in the league. Not expecting much, just a good run around before the others return.
 
Friendly or not, absolutely disgusting performance

Same old issues, clueless in beating the press with the ball, clueless in executing the press without the ball
Also another game where we conceded over 20 shots. Could be heading for another long season.
 
Yes of course he was involved in the 2 times we did it okay, as were all the other players who did it poorly overall

No - not at all like the other players who did it poorly. A couple of the times he did well, he was mopping up poor or frantic play from others.

There were other times where he made similar moves but those around him weren’t able to find him.

It’s very difficult, if not impossible for one player to play out from the back if those around him are not on the same level. He showed enough today to suggest that with better players around him, and with more match sharpness, hewell able to play under pressure in tight spaces.

A bit of rust and a couple of mistakes doesnt undo that.
 
I know this is just a friendly match, but I will say this, because it is not just about this match

If I ever see Casemiro and Rashford play for us again, it is too soon. They are done. Regrettable or not, they are finished and i don't know who will buy them, if it's Saudi, they should go to Saudi, but they really have no business whatsoever playing for United, or anywhere in EPL for that matter. They are both beyond finished and it's simply painful to keep watching them
 
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