He's come back to training early so I think he can get back to his best , he just needs the time to do so and it looks like he's trying, give it 2-8 months I'll put money on him getting back to his best form.
Rooney - Wants to stay next season
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He's come back to training early so I think he can get back to his best , he just needs the time to do so and it looks like he's trying, give it 2-8 months I'll put money on him getting back to his best form.
You are a very optimistic person. I can see exactly what will happen Rooney will find these really good form sign a new 5 year deal then go to garbage again.
My guess rooney will work hard to get back to fitness, be on his best behaviour, playing a few cup games and impress, and then he wants to extend his contract, and back to being shit again
He'll leave this Summer eventually.
IMO the question is how much of his wages will we end up subsidising.
IMO the question is how much of his wages will we end up subsidising.
It'll be a large amount no doubt. No club except us under Moyes would be mad enough to meet his wage demands. We're paying top wages for a Championship level player here.
The club say when there's extensions involved.
See Herrera's signing - http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...nder-herrera-signs-for-manchester-united.aspx
And Valencia signing a new deal - http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...o-june-2019-with-option-for-further-year.aspx
I think they broke protocol with Rooney and stated the total length of the contract as they felt it was a bit of a statement to pin him down at the time.
Most journalists refer to the final year as a mutual option.
Options are at the club's discretion, they are the ones who trigger them, so he's still tied down should they wish him to be.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. The important bit is that we can cut the cord next season without being liable to pay him for the final year.
The consensus view seems to be that (contract shenanigans aside) he has been a decent servant to the club however his performance levels have deteriorated significantly over the past 3 seasons.
I believe 'championship level' comments are stretching it somewhat but he certainly is not of the calibre that a premier league winning team should aspire to and I hope that, one way or another, we can cut him loose.
Wayne - you greedy bugger - please try to extract your final pay day from some other gulllable club. It's time to move on.
I believe 'championship level' comments are stretching it somewhat but he certainly is not of the calibre that a premier league winning team should aspire to and I hope that, one way or another, we can cut him loose.
Wayne - you greedy bugger - please try to extract your final pay day from some other gulllable club. It's time to move on.
But that's not what the club confirmed.
What I'm saying is the idea that they'd announce it differently just to show that he's "pinned down" for 5 years makes no sense because he's pinned down for 5 years either way if that's what the club want.
As has been shown, when deals involve an extra optional one year that detail is included in the club's announcement, but with Rooney it was announced as a straight up 5.5 year contract extension through to 2019.
@Pexbo if ever there was a contract that United would want to paint as being for as long as possible as some kind of statement of intent it'd be De Gea after the fax machine saga, yet his was shown as with an option too.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-signs-new-contract-at-Manchester-United.aspx
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...-signs-new-contract-at-Manchester-United.aspx
Maybe their usual press release writer was at home with the shits and the manager who would usually have edited the junior writer's work to add in the option line was at home on maternity leave. These things happen.
Good point. I've also been wanting to know if the last year is optional or not. No idea where the information of it being optional comes from. I'm edging towards believing it's until 2019 based on the official site after seeing how other transfers specially state the extra year being optional.
In any case, it would be nice if Rooney really dedicated himself to getting back in shape to see if he could become good again. Those playing football can attest to that frst touch, vision and other abilities are linked with fitness. If you're out of breath you can't even do the simple things well. (At least that's been my experience playing). Don't think he'll become a 300k pw player, but maybe he can be a useful option, would be nice to see.
No club would pay him half of what he's currently on so I fully expect him to be here till the end of contract.
Good point, well in that case you are more than likely correct mate.
We are in trouble.
The club was in a bad place and Stretford took us to the cleaners.
The more I look at this the more I think youre right. If I was a football journalist I would be looking into this and if confirmed, writing a story on it, about how if Rooney decides to wait out his contract he will be sitting around kicking his heels for not one, but two whole years. They need to shine a light on just how much of a clusterfck this contract situation is. Because a lot of journalists, and by extension fans, do seem to have this idea he only has one year left.
10/10I actually think calling him championship level is a bit generous
If he waits out his contract until the end, and if the end is indeed June 2019, and if as we expect he doesnt improve his form and does end up out of the squad for the vast majority of that period, it would be interesting to do an analysis of how much he was paid over the duration of the contract, and how many minutes of football he actually played over that time. I suspect we will see that Rooney will end up on a higher rate per game than Ronaldo or Messi or any other footballer in history. On that basis he will surely be - by a considerable distance - the best paid player in history. Another record for our record breaking striker.
On the whole, his performances last season were the equivalent of a championship level player. Though few and far between, there were exceptions -the odd 5 yard pass finding it's target and/or not giving away a foul at the most inopportune moment imaginable - we should be grateful for that, I guess.
I'll always be thankful for Rooney's service down the years, his goal scoring achievements will likely go unsurpassed for many many years, for both club and country. As of this moment his status as a club legend is secure, but if he insists on hanging around for another season, stinking up the bench and contributing absolutely nothing to the cause, that status will come under question and rightly so. Remembered as a leech, some legacy Wayne.
did I mention you? unlikely since I've never heard of you
and ronaldo was underpaid by Madrid I suppose...
It's hilarious people are talking about how he can get back to his best, have they even been watching him the last few years? He's been absolutely garbage and he'll never be a quarter of the player he once was.
That would be quite the record
On transfermarkt they also claim his contract runs until summer 2019. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wayne-rooney/profil/spieler/3332
If all it takes for him to get back to his best is a just coming to training 2 weeks earlier then wtf has he been doing this last 3 years?
You may well be right mate and hopefully we never find out with him being sold this summer but lots of articles have stated his contract as running until 2018 with United holding the option for an extra year to 2019. I've been assuming that they are discussing that as fact because they've been briefed on his situation.
I think it's exaggerated how bad he is.
In the right setup he could still score 10+ PL goals and provide a few assists for some team. That in itself would be worth a fair bit to a PL side in today's market.
Remember the amount of money that was getting put in the table for the likes of Troy Deeney? I don't think he'd do any worse than him.
His exorbitant wages could be offset if we let him go for no transfer fee. But it appears he will only consider joining Everton in the PL which obviously limits options considerably.
In the right setup he could still score 10+ PL goals and provide a few assists for some team. That in itself would be worth a fair bit to a PL side in today's market.
Remember the amount of money that was getting put in the table for the likes of Troy Deeney? I don't think he'd do any worse than him.
His exorbitant wages could be offset if we let him go for no transfer fee. But it appears he will only consider joining Everton in the PL which obviously limits options considerably.
Maybe @spwd should be asking why Wayne has barely bothered to come back fit in the past.
I actually think calling him championship level is a bit generous
Dammit you got in with that thought just before me.
It really isn't!
You're right on not that bad part. But the problem is he's taking the spot of a player we expect to score 15 (midfield) and 30+ (striker).
5-10 goals might not meant the world, but if that 5 goals is in 5 match where we won 1-0 the yes it is the difference between top 2 and midtable
I never see white text until it is too late anyway, so might still have got a flea in your ear.Sorry, I should have put white txt DT
Yes, you replied to my post.
Nah I think it's obvious Wazzy is finished at the top level.
He hardly kicked a ball last season, and next season he will kick even less...but if he's happy with that and doesn't make a stink in the media, I have no problem with him sticking around tbh.
United/Moyes made this problem so they have to live with it!
Of course it is exaggerated. There are people saying he's a Sunday League player, that he isnt good enough to cut it in China, which is preposterous.
Agreed. With fitness he'll get his touch back and hopefully his drive and aggression. Too often he looks like he's been playing a round of golf and not football. Really hope the penny drops with Wayne and he digs deep and works hard to get fit again.
Cue Rocky Theme music.
if he stays next season then his legacy will be tainted (even though some say it's probably already gone that way). He's finished and we need to move on and he needs to move on instead of just picking up a huge wage from us.
But I doubt he cares about the club enough to do something like that....
But I doubt he cares about the club enough to do something like that....
Yeah, it is ironic, you're right.
Rooney is only exploiting United's stupidity in giving him the contract. He's not guilty of anything. It is frustrating though!
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