Rooney - Wants to stay next season

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At least it's only one more year and our current manager has already reduced him to a squad player.
 
You're right of course, but try convincing Wayne to see it that way.

I remember supporting his cause this time last summer, genuinely believing he was going to turn it around. I was wrong. I won't be supporting him this time around, but I still can't fault the guy for making the effort. Despite his decline, I'm sure he would have recieved offers to play a more active role at another club, yet chooses to stay and fight for his place at United. I can respect that.
Unfortunately, hte's staying because no one will pay him outrageous wages....
It's weird that he although he's no where near good enough for this level, he still wants the same status and pay accorded to those who actually are performing at the highest level. Either he's completely out of touch with reality, or he's just greedy.

If I were worth £100M, i'd be more than happy to take a massive pay cut if all I wanted to do was play and try and prove that I've still got something to offer. Hanging around at United means that won't happen. Therefore I have to conclude it's only money and status that is his ultimate goal.
 
If I was in his position, and had a big offer from China, I'd be packing my bags. Better to rule in Hell than play for the reserves in Heaven.

I'd say that such choice could in no small part depend on climate preferences...
 
This is the bottom line. He's given up on England so there's no motivation to do anything.
As I said a few pages back, the man has lost his hunger.
Not literally I'd hope, would spell bad news for Burger King.
 
Rooney has been a legend and top performer for our club over the years, this comment highlights how our mentality has dropped since fergie. Fergie wouldn't put up with the shit Rooney has delivered the last 2/3 seasons and as fans that want this club to be successful, neither should we!

It's interesting that when RVN was still one of the best strikers in the World, Fergie got rid of him.
Generally speaking, Fergie never waited for a player to become so bad. Rooney is so bad, that it begs belief how any manager could put up with his performance level.
When I saw him struggling to play against retired footballers, I was genuinely shocked.
In that Carrick testimonial, for me Robbie Keane looked like the class of the field. Scholes was impressive, but I think he was out of energy fairly quickly. Robbie Keane looked like he could play at EPL level.
 
He should be left out of the squad, not as a punishment but simply because we've got better options in every position he could occupy. It isn't fair that he steals a CM\AM spot on the bench from Pereira and Fellaini (yeah, he is that bad) or a ST spot from Rash and Martial.

Mourinho should also make that clear to him, wonder how that will make him feel knowing that he won't even be on the bench for most matches, kept out by Fellaini.
 
He should be left out of the squad, not as a punishment but simply because we've got better options in every position he could occupy.

Mourinho should also make that clear to him, wonder how that will make him feel knowing that he won't even be on the bench for most matches.
I agree with you, and hope it does happen. It's just not fair for him to take a spot away from someone else when he's this bad. The club cannot afford to keep catering to him like this, it defies all logic to do so.
As myself and others have said, he's welcome to stay and collect his money, as we gave him the contract and have to honour the terms of said contract, but that's as far as it should go.
 
Rather than relocate his family, and having seen what happened to Schweinsteiger, he'd prefer the humiliation of being an unwanted appendage at a club where he was captain and figurehead just a couple of years before?

If I was in his position, and had a big offer from China, I'd be packing my bags. Better to rule in Hell than play for the reserves in Heaven.

From a footballing perspective it makes much more sense to go MLS or China, but personally maybe he doesn't see it that way.

I'd also be disappointed that a footballer, that successful, didnt at least believe he could fight his way back into the team.
 
People keep forgetting about the real circumstances of a potential deal here. What's needed is an offer of wages at least matching his present ones, a transfer fee, a club willing to take a very expensive gamble by buying him as well as Rooney's acceptance of the destination, proposed contract (it's length) and his role in the new team. All of this combined presents a massive obstacle of Mount Everest's size and does the trick of cockblocking everyone around except the Chinese.

Either we agree to terminate his contract or he'll stay here for the upcoming season.
 
Unfortunately, hte's staying because no one will pay him outrageous wages....
It's weird that he although he's no where near good enough for this level, he still wants the same status and pay accorded to those who actually are performing at the highest level. Either he's completely out of touch with reality, or he's just greedy.

If I were worth £100M, i'd be more than happy to take a massive pay cut if all I wanted to do was play and try and prove that I've still got something to offer. Hanging around at United means that won't happen. Therefore I have to conclude it's only money and status that is his ultimate goal.

You could be right about Rooney he might well be just staying on solely for money, i think it's definitely a major factor (maybe the only one) in him not moving on. And i agree i personally think he should move to another club as he's not good enough for United and too young to retire just yet.

I wonder though did you think the same of Giggs, Scholes or Neville who all stayed past their best and were picking up a wage while being fringe players instead of moving away to get more playing time or retiring?
 
Who would've thought years ago that a day would come when Wayne Rooney's leaving can't come soon enough. What a fall from grace. I get it that his wage is too good to pass, but does he really want to end his United career like this? Looks like he cares more about money than being remembered for the actual legacy he'll leave as a top player. It's either that or he really believes he's got something more to offer which is mental. Unless he does some sick turnaround next season, he'll most likely come off as even more pathetic than now....
 
That's one way of looking at it. More realistically Rooney knows perfectly well he's not going to reverse years of decline at the age of 31, but doesn't want to turn his back on the last big moolah he'll ever earn in his life.

Better for us if he did of course, but we gave him the contract, and can't complain now that it's turned sour.

Unfortunately, hte's staying because no one will pay him outrageous wages....
It's weird that he although he's no where near good enough for this level, he still wants the same status and pay accorded to those who actually are performing at the highest level. Either he's completely out of touch with reality, or he's just greedy.

If I were worth £100M, i'd be more than happy to take a massive pay cut if all I wanted to do was play and try and prove that I've still got something to offer. Hanging around at United means that won't happen. Therefore I have to conclude it's only money and status that is his ultimate goal.

Call it denial, and you probably will, but I prefer to believe that he genuinely wishes to make one final attempt at finding his form. Turn it all around and prove everyone wrong at the same time. His newly discovered form, exceeding that of yesteryear, will not only win us the domestic league and CL next season - placing United back at the pinnacle of football once again - but will finally bring home the coveted Ballon D'or, that which has eluded him for so many years, thus cementing his status as a genuine icon and true legend of the club. Worshipped by the fans, adored by his peers..... Oh bollox who am kidding, of course he's staying for the money and who could blame him? 300k a week. Three hundred thousand pounds per week to keep a bench warm and start rumours in the media about his lack of first team football. The greedy bastard.
 
By the way, will Everton still want him after a whole new season playing from the bench and minor cup games?
 
You could be right about Rooney he might well be just staying on solely for money, i think it's definitely a major factor (maybe the only one) in him not moving on. And i agree i personally think he should move to another club as he's not good enough for United and too young to retire just yet.

I wonder though did you think the same of Giggs, Scholes or Neville who all stayed past their best and were picking up a wage while being fringe players instead of moving away to get more playing time or retiring?
But we're not discussing Giggs, Scholes and such. Neville quit when he knew he could no longer perform the way we needed him to.
I agree Giggs and Scholes probably overstayed, but they were never the highest earners and were ok playing a bit part, whilst most importantly, making a contribution to the team. We can't in all honesty say that Rooney can contribute anything anymore, and the club is not in a position to accommodate that sort of thing - we don't have SAF, and we're fighting to get back where we'd like to be.

I get you like Rooney, but we have to be realistic. As I said, he can stay and collect his money, but it's not in the interests of the team to have him taking a spot on the bench ahead of other deserving players.
 
Call it denial, and you probably will, but I prefer to believe that he genuinely wishes to make one final attempt at finding his form. Turn it all around and prove everyone wrong at the same time. His newly discovered form, exceeding that of yesteryear, will not only win us the domestic league and CL next season - placing United back at the pinnacle of football once again - but will finally bring home the coveted Ballon D'or, that which has eluded him for so many years, thus cementing his status as a genuine icon and true legend of the club. Worshipped by the fans, adored by his peers..... Oh bollox who am kidding, of course he's staying for the money and who could blame him? 300k a week. Three hundred thousand pounds per week to keep a bench warm and start rumours in the media about his lack of first team football. The greedy bastard.

The chances of Wayne regaining form at United are the same as him winning a street fight with Jason Bourne. who's wounded and drugged
 
Call it denial, and you probably will, but I prefer to believe that he genuinely wishes to make one final attempt at finding his form. Turn it all around and prove everyone wrong at the same time. His newly discovered form, exceeding that of yesteryear, will not only win us the domestic league and CL next season - placing United back at the pinnacle of football once again - but will finally bring home the coveted Ballon D'or, that which has eluded him for so many years, thus cementing his status as a genuine icon and true legend of the club. Worshipped by the fans, adored by his peers..... Oh bollox who am kidding, of course he's staying for the money and who could blame him? 300k a week. Three hundred thousand pounds per week to keep a bench warm and start rumours in the media about his lack of first team football. The greedy bastard.

I know that this post was in jest, but seriously the only thing it would take for him to atleast show some effort would be for once to return after his vacation not being 20 pounds overweight and unfit after gobbling down the McD's and smoking fags all summer.

True effort on his part would be training on his fitness and improving his less than fortunate body composition all summer long, now that would be dedication. It wouldn't help his baby elephant first touch, but atleast it would show some initiative and make him modestly helpful from a bench position.

Won't happen though, watch him return more bloated than ever and contribute zilch, after all in his own words he has nothing more to prove.
 
By the way, will Everton still want him after a whole new season playing from the bench and minor cup games?

Forget next year, even now I really don't see why Everton would want him:

He's not better than what what they have:

Even on a free transfer and us subsidising his wages he'd cost more than any other player they have;

Apart from some sentiment regarding his roots, he's hardly an Everton 'legend' and engineered a move away as soon as he could and the likes of Koeman has zero ties to that;

Plus their fans and management aren't stupid - he's finished as a top level footballer.

Basically, we'll really struggle to shift him anywhere.
 
I know that this post was in jest, but seriously the only thing it would take for him to atleast show some effort would be for once to return after his vacation not being 20 pounds overweight and unfit after gobbling down the McD's and smoking fags all summer.

True effort on his part would be training on his fitness and improving his less than fortunate body composition all summer long, now that would be dedication. It wouldn't help his baby elephant first touch, but atleast it would show some initiative and make him modestly helpful from a bench position.

Won't happen though, watch him return more bloated than ever and contribute zilch, after all in his own words he has nothing more to prove.

There was a picture taken of him a week after the EL final where he had seemingly gained over a stone in weight. It was both a shocking and terrifying experience for all privvy to the pic. "A monstor in human form" one said "fat bastard" said another.

What bothers me most is what had transpired in the week leading up to the event. I mean, seriously, short of eating your family, how does one gain such a large amount of weight inside a week? The mind boggles.
 
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What bothers me most is what had transpired in the week leading up to the event. I mean, seriously, short of eating your family, how does one gain such a large amount of weight inside a week? The mind boggles.
Osmosis Jones.

His body went on strike
 
But we're not discussing Giggs, Scholes and such. Neville quit when he knew he could no longer perform the way we needed him to.

Yeah Neville did quit eventually, but he thought he should have quit in 2010. And yet he signed another 1 year deal anyway, then he tried to retire halfway through the next season but agreed to keep training and pretend he was injured for a month or two until his retirement was made official.

Scholes was ''injured'' during the 2nd half of his last year at United. Then in a timely fashion regained fitness as soon as the title was won to make a few cameo's towards the end of the season.

I agree Giggs and Scholes probably overstayed, but they were never the highest earners and were ok playing a bit part, whilst most importantly, making a contribution to the team. We can't in all honesty say that Rooney can contribute anything anymore, and the club is not in a position to accommodate that sort of thing - we don't have SAF, and we're fighting to get back where we'd like to be.

Well they were both top earners at one point though mate, and as far as i know they never took pay cuts when they renewed their deals. Isn't that the same as Rooney?

Rooney got a raise to £250k a week in 2010, he's still on that in his current contract. According to the BBC anyway. Last year supposedly Zlatan was on £370k per week, wages increase as time goes on.

I get you like Rooney, but we have to be realistic. As I said, he can stay and collect his money, but it's not in the interests of the team to have him taking a spot on the bench ahead of other deserving players.

I agree mate but he won't be the first nor the last player to stay beyond their usefulness to run down their contract.

The point i'm trying to make here is not to have a pop at Nev or Scholes i don't care how long they stayed, just highlighting that other players got a completely free pass from fans for doing similar to what Rooney is doing now. I think most footballers like most people would probably hang around and earn a bit more money while they still can.
 
I'm not sure I can handle two more years of Rooney. Not present day Rooney. He's abysmal.
 
I'm not sure I can handle two more years of Rooney. Not present day Rooney. He's abysmal.

Incredible, the Mans won everything with us and is our top scorer for club and country. He just needs a decent pre-season and he could get back to his best.
 
Incredible, the Mans won everything with us and is our top scorer for club and country. He just needs a decent pre-season and he could get back to his best.
Yeah good one. Pre season or no preseason he'll still be garbage.
 
I'm not sure I can handle two more years of Rooney. Not present day Rooney. He's abysmal.

I know United's official site said he signed a 5.5 year contract but i think it is quite likely the last year is optional. Even if it isn't i can't see him staying another 2 years.
 
Hope he gets back to his former glory and scores 30 goals in the league next season. That Rooney chant was ominous as feck. I remember it well when playing vs Porto.
 
It seems unlikely he'll come back to his best but I have high hopes he'll find a good role to play in the Squad. Remember we're in all four competitions this coming season. We'll need plenty of rotation.
 
Summer time seems to reset our fans' overall Rooney experience. Let's enjoy the newest wave of hope. It is quite cute, but... Jason Bourne!
 
Incredible, the Mans won everything with us and is our top scorer for club and country. He just needs a decent pre-season and he could get back to his best.

I don't even admire your optimism here.

Knew it was sarcasm
 
he's been crap for years. all this "let's see how he is looking in preseason" talk is mind boggling.

Summer time seems to reset our fans' overall Rooney experience. Let's enjoy the
newest wave of hope. It is quite cute, but... Jason Bourne!

soon we are going to be hearing the "he's a central midfielder" then the "he's better in the hole" then the "he should be leading the line" to complete the cycle
 
Wayne just needs to be loved and surrounded my youth.

Get him back where he belongs at no.9 and have Rashford and Lingard playing either side of him :)
Its this a genuine opinion?

Do you want us to finish in the bottom 10?
 
So he's back training three weeks early wazzy wazzy woo woo...aren't we the fecking lucky ones.
 
Incredible, the Mans won everything with us and is our top scorer for club and country. He just needs a decent pre-season and he could get back to his best.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: (Have you seen the show Judge Judy when she laughs at the plaintiff and or defendant when they say for example sue $5000 for stress etc that's my laugh)
 
Need to get him off the payroll ASAP.

Send him to the reserves. He was the worst player on the pitch at Carrick's testimonial - including Carrick's brother who is a plumber or something.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: (Have you seen the show Judge Judy when she laughs at the plaintiff and or defendant when they say for example sue $5000 for stress etc that's my laugh)

What do you mean, I'd love him to stay and prove us all wrong, which if he gets his head down he can get back to his best!
 
Its an amazing thread this one. The assumptions and projection in this thread leading to some ideas of his motivation that are simply grabbed out of thin air. Also amazing the amount of vitriole and hatred thats being exhibited.
 
What do you mean, I'd love him to stay and prove us all wrong, which if he gets his head down he can get back to his best!

I have been waiting for Rooney to get back to his best since roughly 2012 it's not happening.
 
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