Is it any wonder guys who know little about football as Moyes and Woodie would get fleeced in such a deal when you've got guys on the caf like Pogue who only now realised Rooney is past it.
Rooney is finished
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Is it any wonder guys who know little about football as Moyes and Woodie would get fleeced in such a deal when you've got guys on the caf like Pogue who only now realised Rooney is past it.
I'd forgotten about that match, he was dire. I remember an away game at Swansea not long after where he fluffed every chance he got too. He was terrible until the New Year last season before he got a few goals yet whoever replaces him has to perform miracles in a single game or its proof they're not good enough.
Shameful from Nev, and no doubt he'll be on his TV pulpit this weekend talking snide about fans not understanding football.
Will Mkhi be fit for LCFC? Is he even injured?
He'll be making a 2 minute compilation of "what Rooney brings to United". The trouble is that there won't be the 20 minute complation of how he spoils us.
That will be his and Phil's project for the week, desperately scouring frames for moments to pad out a full 2 minutes, Carragher must be killing himself laughing inside seeing this bizarre protection of a guy hurting the club those guys all supposed to love.
3 or 4 years, my fecking god
Great post but I'd sooner he fecked off completely, we have enough better players to start and cover as subs for him so I'd prefer to use them over him any day.
Fecking idiot
Yaya, Hart, Casillas or Raul's situation can't be compared to Rooney's. Rooney has almost 3 years left on a £250k+ per week contract, plus any penalties written into it. So to terminate the contract, the club would likely need to pay him off, and have a massive writedown.
Metro (i know) reports that Rooney will be dropped for the home game aganst Leicester City.
Think they're all going off the reports in the Sun
It'll be good to see him dropped but I wish it was an easier game than Leicester, that will be tricky and if we don't win it'll be the usual we're better with Rooney proof nonsense.
I wouldn't be surprised if Zlatan is rested during the game against Leicester, so Rooney is played up front to give him one final chance to prove himself. If he fails to score, he would then be benched.
Fixed. This cycle has been going on for a while it seems.
So true. I do think though that his days in midfield or as a 10 are absolutely 100% numbered after the Watford game.
Is this the same Giroud that has outscored Rooney in every single season since he arrived in English football?
Would you like to be the one to tell Zlatan that? I would do it from another country. Could you imagine the fallout with Zlatan if that happened and Rooney didn't play well? There will be blood spilled.
Oh good lord. feck off Gary.
I'd love to see Zlatan leave the bench and do a Cantona mid match on Rooney after another awful first touch.
About as relevant as you drawing Barca 1-1 in CdR semi final as Valencia manager (after being trashed 7-0 in the first leg).
He's really not worth taking seriously.
Anyone that comes up with that silent domination rubbish shouldn't be taken seriously.
Rooney(12 goals) scored more PL goals than him in 2012/13 season under Fergie while playing as a number 10 behind RVP compared to Giroud(11 goals) playing as the sole striker for Arsenal that season. Not to mention Rooney had 10 assists compared to Giroud's 3.
Since then Rooney has played about half his games as a centre forward, under incompetent managers, for a team which has been far inferior to Arsenal in terms of chances created. And yet Rooney's PL goals/assist stats are comparable or better in the PL than Giroud in 3 out of the last 4 seasons.
Hasn't performed for two years now.
Used to be absolutely quality, but always had weaknesses, now they're becoming more and more evident.
It's a worry because he's on massive money and I don't see anything to suggest he will turn it around.
Used to be absolutely quality, but always had weaknesses, now they're becoming more and more evident.
It's a worry because he's on massive money and I don't see anything to suggest he will turn it around.
That's great, but Giroud is currently better at football.
If you look at the things Rooney can bring (now and again) like the drive from the byline against Hull to set up Rashford - it's a typical mark of a substitute. Someone you bring on because in short bursts they've got passion and some brute force to make something happen. I don't even think he shows that enough necessarily but it is what you get with him. And penalties I suppose.
You don't start players like that. Not a top team, nor any team aspiring to be one.
You don't start players like that. Not a top team, nor any team aspiring to be one.
I see the lovely play Rooney as 9 argument and he will score more goals has reared it's heard again.
It was just a few months when this was all the rage.He was promptly moved to 9 and failed abysmally.Then he was then being hyped up as a midfielder instead.
Rooney doesn't play striker simply because he isnt good enough there. It's not because we haven't tried him there either.We sold off his entire competition last season and he struggled so badly that we had to rope in an 18 year old instead who lo and behold scored goals in such an underperforming team.
It's always the same.When Rooney plays at 9 and struggles,then his best position is actually 10.Play at him and he struggles,then he is actually a 9 instead.We've seen this time and time again.It's always some hypothetical scenario brought up to defend how well he will do. Having seen him as striker for both England and United in the last two years I'm pretty sure this dreamed up scenarios about him scoring heavily at Arsenal and Liverpool aren't happening.
And we thought david moyes sacked would be the end, Moyes not accepting chelsea's offer, shafting us with that contract, signing fellaini, DAMN has Moyes left a legacy in place alright. We have guys like rashford who scores goals, what do we do play him out wide but keep rooney playing off zlaten, when it would be better having zlaten play off rashford, but we have to keep rooney in the team for some strange reason
And scores more goals.Isnt that what a striker is paid to do?
Rooney played as a striker last season and even the season before that for significant spells.He hardly pulled any trees there.But no..Let's try it again there.Everyone knows the definition of insanity.
You pretty much ignored my entire point and the post. Maybe you thought my facts were incorrect or the point I was making doesn't stand. But in no way have I suggested that Rooney could do well playing #9 role for us. That dead horse has been beaten enough so please spare me the pain.
You brought up the topic of Giroud scoring more than Rooney in every season since coming to Arsenal without actually specifying in which competitions. It is only natural that I brought a bit of context to that argument by saying that Rooney hasn't played as a lone striker for us which is factual and not an excuse. Even then, Rooney has outscored Giroud in the league 2 out of last 4 seasons in PL.
Rooney could very well be an average centre forward like Giroud if he was playing as a focal point for Arsenal. He would still score 10-15 goals a season like Giroud while also contributing a whole lot more to the team. If you disagree with that, do look at their assists since Giroud arrived in England.
He would do well to trap 15 balls in half a season, let alone scoring 15 goals a season
It's honestly not surprising that human beings fight each other and start wars when I see posts so disagreeably wrong as this one.
What the feck are you smoking?
I just want to know the opinions of people at the club. I can't imagine it isn't being discussed behind closed doors.
or defending a friend.
Bloody hell you know things must be bad when even you are criticising him.
I'm actually so bored of this situation now, that I try to avoid all Rooney related topics.
I've been having debates about Rooney since 2012. I could see his decline before me. I'm just amazed that it has finally come full circle.
I've been having debates about Rooney since 2012. I could see his decline before me. I'm just amazed that it has finally come full circle.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wayne-rooney-2015-16-performances.406644/page-18
It's funny how the comments are exactly the same. Same complaints, same issues. Could have been a thread in 2014, 2015 and will stil be relevant next year.
It's funny how the comments are exactly the same. Same complaints, same issues. Could have been a thread in 2014, 2015 and will stil be relevant next year.
Just the thought of him milking the club dry with the 3 years left on his contract boils my piss. I think he's just the type to do just that though. He doesn't give a damn about anyone other than himself. I suppose on that contract others would do the same, but the fact he's so shit just makes it sooooo unbearable. His well documented 'previous' a few years ago just adds more shit to the fan. Yuck.
In all fairness, I thought I was in the Mourinho thread.
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