Have you seen him play more as a midfielder? I'd say he's more hope trying his arm at goalkeeping.
Rooney is finished
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Have you seen him play more as a midfielder? I'd say he's more hope trying his arm at goalkeeping.
Just wondering why he will have to play as a midfielder. Why does he have to play anywhere if he's simply not good enough anymore.
What's the point in throwing him from one position to the next if he's done. It's not black and white. It's simple, he's done at a top level and has been for a while.
Do you think Rooney is actually a top class midfielder when he plays there? We shouldn't have passengers and find a place for anyone just because of who they are.
So red issue reckon/hint that rooney lobbied against bastian and turned the dressing room against him. This is probably one of the reasons why no manager drops him, he has too many friends in the dressing room ours and the english ones. Also his journo friends will be out for blood when rooney scores an offside tap in via his standing leg or if mourinho doesnt get it right without rooney.
This is the main reason fergie wanted him out of the team and the club along with him being shit.
Redissue has been very right about united related things, i think they have decent credibility.
He's as done as it gets. He wouldn't get into any top half premiership team as a regular starter if his name wasn't Wayne Rooney. On fitness grounds alone, he'd struggle to make it as a championship player but he does have goals in him. He is a tactical liability at this level of football.
Did you watch the Iceland game? The only thing that saved him from international humiliation then was that the team performance was so terrible. But honestly in that game, his lack of basic footballing skill - like being able to trap a ball, or make a 10 yard pass - was really shocking.
Jose seems to get on well with Wayne, as they say 'Keep your friends close and your enemies closer'. That could apply to both.
His team mates like him? Martial, Zlatan, Pogba body language wise are not big fans of Rooney.. Herrera and Mata both don't get games because of him.. Mkhitaryan must hate the fat bastard too.. I think his days of running the dressing room are numbered imo.
If Rooney goes it would be wise to get shot of Michael Carrick as well. Although without Rooney he will likely get back in line.
I don't think Jose likes any player in the sense that once he thinks they're expendable, they cease to be relevant to him. I think if Jose is anything like his normal self, he's playing poker here with the board and with the media. He's playing the long game.. making the cause look helpless and forcing the hand of the board/media.
Jose looks very relaxed to me, nothing like how he was at Chelsea when you could tell he was visibly stressed. I am fairly confident that by November, Rooney will be axed.
Carrick is a bit part player once Rooney goes. He's a snake but a tameable one. He's harmless without Fat Waz.
Jose definitely looks a lot more chilled. As you say he might be trying to prove to the board media that Rooney is done. The media seem to be thinking it now.
I don't think you can blame Mourinho too much for playing him until now. The timing of Rooney's testimonial as well as him going into the season only a few goals behind the club record made it nearly impossible for Mourinho to drop him straight away. However, the Leicester-game will set a precedent for what is going to happen for the rest of the season. If there's ever been a time for dropping Rooney, this is it.
I never thought about this, maybe he knew this all along and this is just him making sure the media and press attacks Rooney before he starts benching him? It's far fetched, but not impossible.
That or he genuinely wants to play him. Or create us against them situation. Maybe he wants to prove to the media it's not that who dictates who plays.
I don't think that's it, but I wonder why he doesn't see what everyone else is seeing. Not to sub him yesterday was criminal.
Someone said here come November he'll be axed. Why then. And in November we can hope he'll be axed in December and so on.
Really sad Jose didn't have the foresight to treat Rooney the way he has treated Schweinstegier, if had then he would be likely gone by now, because there is no way he would want to be seen rotting with the kids, and if he had given Schweinstegier his place instead than we might actually have a viable partner for Pogba thrown in as well.
Real shame Jose (or the club) didn't get this sorted early on, instead we are left with all the same negative feelings we have had for three years now, although we mustn't kid ourselves that'll it'll all be sorted by getting shut of Rooney, but it was still a massive opportunity missed imo.
Real shame Jose (or the club) didn't get this sorted early on, instead we are left with all the same negative feelings we have had for three years now, although we mustn't kid ourselves that'll it'll all be sorted by getting shut of Rooney, but it was still a massive opportunity missed imo.
Hard to say if all that is really true, but there were many who called some of the Schweinsteiger "news" as being from Rooney and his camp. Seems like there could be some credence to it.
Wonder how he performs for England during the international break in October, although one game against Malta and the other is Slovenia. He'll probably grab goals against these two and everything will be hunky dory again. They play Scotland and Spain in November(yes, yet another international break). Spain might give him the run around.
I'd like to see him try it with Zlatan, he will be spitting up teeth.
I'm not wishing it on him at all but I think our only hope of him not getting picked anymore is if he gets injured.
Knowing our Wayne he would find a Rooney lookalike who could play in his place. Just so we don't forget him.
I argued this and I stand by it. Van Gaal and Schweinsteiger were character assassinated in every broadsheet less than a week after this lunch. I think Rooney was behind it, just as he was when he started blabbing about player unrest on international duty this time last year.
Think one angle from the leaks was Rooney being shackled by LVG and the reason dropped for the stoke game was he insisting to play his own game from then on. Basically the people had to know about poor Wayne Rooney
Is it really? Everyone with a semi working eye know that Rooney is finished this summer. Mourinho has surely seen a lot of United matches last season, and trained Rooney in the summer.
Guardiola was very effective on getting rid of Hart. And Hart isn't a bad keeper (he is very comparable with Bravo and better than Cavaliero as a keeper) just because he didn't suit his plans. Mourinho somehow thinks that Rooney should start. It is very low from him, something that I would have expected from the likes of Allardyce, Hodgson and Moyes.
I always liked Mourinho but this is something that cannot be justified. And while someone might say that it is only SEVEN (not 5) matches, I'll say that it is fine to not play as good as we should after just 7 matches, but not dropping serial under-performers is something different. He didn't need 7 matches to realize that Rooney is shite (if he has realized, I guess not), 7 minutes would have been more than enough to see that.
Red Issue are cnuts who know nothing at all (just look at the Mourinho saga when they changed opinions more often than Sun). Didn't Bastian tweeted a photo with Rooney a couple of weeks back? If Rooney lobbed against him, that likely wouldn't happen, and Bastian has surely friends too to leak information.
Wouldn't surprise me. I remember reading that article or articles from that leak - it thrashed LVG and Basti. The only player that came out of it with compliments was Rooney
But if the players in the dressing room who liked Basti (I'm pretty sure there were some) didn't have the balls to say something to the captain, well feck them too - no bloody balls on them - if this of course all happened.
Rooney was the one who tweeted an old pic of them. Never before or since done anything of the sort. Just trying to get in on Basti's big day
Rooney strikes me as being sneaky tbh, so wouldn't be surprised if he slaughtered Basti. Anyway, Basti is no longer a part of the team, it's the current players that need to watch their backs.
Rooney hasn't got an assist from a corner since 2013.
You have to appreciate that Pep has far more freedom and power at City. Plus he's coming off of a successful tenure with Bayern - even if they didn't win the CL it was still successful (at least to me!). He's got far more recent credit in the bank than Mourinho. But most importantly, City chiefs see Pep as their star. He can do what he wants. No matter what is presented to us at face value - no manager after SAF has more power than the commercial interests of the club - unlike at City.
You wonder what sort of stuff will come out when most of these players are retired and feel free to just say what they want?Rooney was the one who tweeted an old pic of them. Never before or since done anything of the sort. Just trying to get in on Basti's big day
Rooney strikes me as being sneaky tbh, so wouldn't be surprised if he slaughtered Basti. Anyway, Basti is no longer a part of the team, it's the current players that need to watch their backs.
And we will be chasing top four in a very difficult battle by then. City are fantastic, Liverpool are playing well, Arsenal are Arsenal. If we continue like this we might find ourselves 5+ points below the fourth club in the table, that would be quite problematic.
Which is funny, because Van Gaal effectively spread his legs open for Rooney. He sold his direct competition (Van Persie), made him captain and played him in his favourite position as a striker until Rooney suddenly decided he was now a midfielder a week after Rashford had made his debut up front. An amazing coincidence, really.
I can't believe how much the club has pandered to the bloke over the years.
Does he really? Surely, City directors are his friends, but we don't have a director in the first place, which means that Jose has only Ed (and the owners) above him in the hierarchy. With our club having had two terrible managers in the past, and him being Mourinho, he is as powerful as a manager can be.
I still think that the most believable theory is that he got 'damaged' by the last two spells when he lost the dressing room (especially with the Casillas situation which might have some similarities with Rooney situation) and he was scared shitless to just remove Rooney. Which is a problem. I was all for Mourinho but I want that arrogant confident version of him we saw at Chelsea and Inter (and even Real) who was not scared to drop anyone and to fight anyone. Not that imposter of last season who was scared to drop underperforming players in fear of an another mutiny, and who was throwing not powerful players under the bus every week (something that he has already started doing here with Lingard, Miki, Blind and now Shaw).
Rooney's never going to be a midfielder. His first touch has never been great, but he made up for it by being able to chase anything that got away from him. His vision and passing are poor, with the extent of it basically being aimless, diagonal balls, hoping Valencia can get on the end of it. His shooting's gone too. He used to be a threat anywhere within about 25-30 yards of the goal, but he simply can't generate the appropriate power, or catch the ball as cleanly anymore, leading to embarrassing attempts like that one in the last game. If he doesn't have a lot of space and time, he struggles. He can't burst forward with the ball like he used to, so if we dropped him deeper to play in midfield, then what exactly is he going to do? He's not going to be passing it out and building from deep, nor is he going to burst forward with it and create opportunities that way.
The only way I can see Rooney adapting his game is by accepting that he's actually a striker, and sitting in between the two central defenders. We haven't got a use for someone who does that, but another team will, and playing regularly, I can see him bagging a fair few goals over the course of a season as the focal point of an attack.
The only way I can see Rooney adapting his game is by accepting that he's actually a striker, and sitting in between the two central defenders. We haven't got a use for someone who does that, but another team will, and playing regularly, I can see him bagging a fair few goals over the course of a season as the focal point of an attack.
The only one who would probably say anything is Zlatan - everyone else is all nice and cordial - pisses me off sometimes when we need balls and guts
Wish he was finished.
Wouldn't have to look at him or his dodgy barnet
Wouldn't have to look at him or his dodgy barnet
What have we been discussing in this thread? There is no conversation to be had on the topic of Wayne Rooney, he is no longer good enough to play for Manchester United and hasn't been for quite some time. Ferguson really was a genius, we couldn't believe he was gonna get rid of him all them years back. 
Indeed. He could score a dozen goals a season for a club like Sunderland.
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