Rooney is finished

Is Rooney done at the required level?

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He may play a reduced role but whatever happens he will probably get enough goals to overtake Charlton - leave as a legend and earn so much money in China that he honestly wont care what people think
 
I hope my boss is as loyal to me, as the club is to Wazza. I could lose money for years, publicly flirt with other rivaling companies, and basically fail to show up for work for a while. And still get a raise. How about that.
 
devilish said:
Sell him and bring someone who justify that top salary. We've got too many players who was able to get away with it for far too much
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Why would he leave when he's paid so much?
 
sun_tzu said:
He may play a reduced role but whatever happens he will probably get enough goals to overtake Charlton - leave as a legend and earn so much money in China that he honestly wont care what people think
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What does that have to do with anything?

Oh Rooney won't care if he's dropped because he's loaded? Is that your attempt at defending Rooney?
 


A well known friend of Fergie calling Rooney out
 
glazed said:
Why would he leave when he's paid so much?
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Putting him on transfer list or loan him for free as long as they pay a substantial part of his salary. There are ways to get rid of players
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
What does that have to do with anything?

Oh Rooney won't care if he's dropped because he's loaded? Is that your attempt at defending Rooney?
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dont think I defended him... said I thought he would play a reduced role... still scrape enough goals to overtake Charlton and if he leaves in the summer it will generally be to positive reports over what he achieved over 13 years with us... plus I doubt he will care what people say because he will be sunning it up in shanghai or similar playing at a lower level and looking a million dollars - which is probably what he will earn a week
 
I hope Roo and Schweini can find a nice place in the MLS and talk about the time when they both were world class. But they will probably laugh their asses of how they got as much money for doing feck all the last few years at United. shitc**ts both of them
 
izec said:
I hope Roo and Schweini can find a nice place in the MLS and talk about the time when they both were world class. But they will probably laugh their asses of how they got as much money for doing feck all the last few years at United. shitc*nts both of them
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How incredibly disrespectful.
 
DevilRed said:
We need mobility behind Ibra. Having Rooney and Felaini is the exact opposite. Throw on Herrera and Schneiderlin already. Pogba playing higher up with less defensive duties will do us wonders.
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:lol:
 
Sarni said:
He's not getting dropped for another 2 years though, I'm pretty sure of that. He wasn't dropped during the abysmal run of form under van Gaal who is actually known for dropping stars for younger players when he sees that they no longer perform, Mourinho hasn't dropped him either so far and has barely substituted him until dying minutes of the game, even when he plainly did not work. We gave him the ridiculous 5.5-year contract in 2014 and he's going to fulfil that and as a first team player too.
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If that's true I will stop watching us for the next three years and restart again when he retires.:(
 
Sarni said:
He's not getting dropped for another 2 years though, I'm pretty sure of that. He wasn't dropped during the abysmal run of form under van Gaal who is actually known for dropping stars for younger players when he sees that they no longer perform, Mourinho hasn't dropped him either so far and has barely substituted him until dying minutes of the game, even when he plainly did not work. We gave him the ridiculous 5.5-year contract in 2014 and he's going to fulfil that and as a first team player too.
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Man you sure know how to cheer people up:lol:

Seriously, I believe it will be taken out of our hands. If we lose the next two games for eg with Rooney still starting and playing poorly, we'll approaching the relegation places. Think about that. Do you really believe we'd continue with him then? Our season would implode fully. Jose would lose the dressing room etc etc etc. Even the passive suits at United would be forced to act under those circumstances.
 
SteveJ said:
Pep is being praised to the skies for his Hart move but he did it from a position of real strength - City wanted him for ages, so he effectively has carte blanche. Besides, he had a bona fide argument for dispensing with Hart (i.e. Pepe's chosen playing style for goalkeepers). All in all this 'bold move' was a risk-free one for Pep, especially as Joe's new club can do little to no harm to City's prospects of success. José finds himself in a far more difficult situation, at a club where - unlike Pep - he doesn't enjoy universal support amongst the hierarachy.
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This absolutely. Pep can do what he wants there - he is the main man in every way. Here the manager plays second fiddle to the marketable players it seems. Also, I bet you Pep would have difficulties dislodging Rooney as well.
Even better for Pep - Man City is not so dependent on 'image' and 'marketability' and sponsors - they have money to fall back on. Whereas we are dependent on this income. If Rooney is mixed up in our commercial activities as it sounds like from his contract - then that is an infinitely more difficult thing to tackle.
 
Does Jose feel confident enough to grasp this particular nettle six games into his united career? I very much doubt it. He'd lose half the players. Fergie should have moved him on before he went because nobody since then has been secure enough in his position to even consider it.
 
Jazz said:
Man you sure know how to cheer people up:lol:

Seriously, I believe it will be taken out of our hands. If we lose the next two games for eg with Rooney still starting and playing poorly, we'll approaching the relegation places. Think about that. Do you really believe we'd continue with him then? Our season would implode fully. Jose would lose the dressing room etc etc etc. Even the passive suits at United would be forced to act under those circumstances.
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IF we play like we did yesterday, and no not just Rooney, this isn't an impossibility. It sounds ludicrous, but what a gutless ineffective effort I watched from most of our side. I recorded the Palace v Stoke game and watched it later. Palace would smoke us all things being equal.
 
Pexbo said:
What he does is pick up space in the most cowardly possible fashion.

Great midfielders pick up space in the most dangerous of areas, they find little pockets and hurt the opposition.

Rooney's idea of picking up space is literally finding empty areas of the pitch so he can get on the ball with no pressure. That position could be left back, right wing, between the centre backs or deep in midfield when everyone else is pushed forward. He melts if he's pressed and gives the ball away so spends the entire game trying to find somewhere get can get the ball with acres of space and time.
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The most frustrating thing is you then get pundits using this as an example of his passion and hunger. "Look at Rooney dropping all the way back with the center backs to get on the ball!"
 
Jacko21 said:
I think this situation is on the brink.

We know it. He knows it. Journalists know it. Pundits know it.

And if Mourinho subscribes to the same view, then this should be the week he's dropped for successive games.

I feel nothing for Rooney anymore. It's a sad reality. He can't expect sympathy. Not given the tricks he has pulled over the years.
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i wonder what the 2010 Rooney would say about having the 2016 Rooney in his team
 
Jazz said:
Man you sure know how to cheer people up:lol:

Seriously, I believe it will be taken out of our hands. If we lose the next two games for eg with Rooney still starting and playing poorly, we'll approaching the relegation places. Think about that. Do you really believe we'd continue with him then? Our season would implode fully. Jose would lose the dressing room etc etc etc. Even the passive suits at United would be forced to act under those circumstances.
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I just cannot see how this would ever happen. He's been crap for 2.5 years and is still playing every single game, it's not something that has just come up. He's there by default.
 
I bet he's in the starting lineup against Leicester. It's bound to happen so we might as well just accept it. The fat scouse tosser will still be playing for United when he's 50.
 
He's a nightmare for us, that never seems to end or has no apparent ending. Even if we drop him, he'll probably pop up with a screamer in a match we'll no doubt go on to still lose and he'll regain his place. Breaking down every single attack for another 20 games. It's an utter shambles, and it's the clubs own fault.
 
Jazz said:
This absolutely. Pep can do what he wants there - he is the main man in every way. Here the manager plays second fiddle to the marketable players it seems. Also, I bet you Pep would have difficulties dislodging Rooney as well.
Even better for Pep - Man City is not so dependent on 'image' and 'marketability' and sponsors - they have money to fall back on. Whereas we are dependent on this income. If Rooney is mixed up in our commercial activities as it sounds like from his contract - then that is an infinitely more difficult thing to tackle.
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I think that's a very astute post. I don't think Rooney is droppable however, merely that there's pressure not to drop him. But at the end of the day, Mourinho is far from stupid and if any Tom, Dick or Harry can see that Rooney is past it, then obviously Mourinho can.

And Mourinho is hardly a shrinking violet when it comes to making his opinions heard. Very shortly, if not already, Mourinho will be saying he's dropping Rooney and the board will then have to decide whether to back Mourinho or Rooney, and to be honest there's no decision to make: Mourinho wins every time.

I've seen comment about Mourinho coming under pressure already and consequences for under-achievement etc. IMHO this is bullshit. After 2 disastrous managerial appointments post SAF, I would say Mourinho's position is for this season at least, bullet-proof. United simply cannot afford to sack him or let him walk. Therefore, Mourinho WILL have his way.
 
He'll be 'rested' for Northampton, and then be back against Leicester, using his freshness to kill off more of our attacks and man mark the referee all over the pitch.
 
Jacko21 said:
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"True, Rooney is not the only problem that Mourinho faces. He must surely have come to realise that playing Fellaini and Paul Pogba together is not working: they are about as compatible a partnership as Nigel Farage and Jeremy Corbyn."

:lol:
 
We've gotten rid of Falcao, DiMaria, RVP, Nani, Chicharito, and Kagawa, all of these players who were many times sidelined or made to play a different position/style just to fit Rooney. I would prefer to have any one of those players back instead of Rooney.
 
And I don't expect him to make a fuss and disturb team chemistry if he is jettisoned to the bench. He's got his contract after all. How his team mates react, now that will be interesting.
 
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