Ronaldo | Refused to come on as sub, left OT | Axed from squad for Chelsea & fined 2 weeks wages

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Just because someone has done something before doesn't mean it's the same in every case, and yes, it's easy to say these things after the facts have come out. I prefer to wait for the facts before condemning someone. There's no prizes award for being the first to call someone a cnut, in fact everyone loses.
Fact is he left the stadium before the final whistle on Wednesday.
 
We're United mate, they only print negative news about us. For me he's just another player who wants to leave and he's being a child about it. Deal with it, like they have done and move on, but we're going to get a full week of this now which distracts from how well we're playing and that's the annoying part.
It has been dealt with. And its Ronaldo, not any other player, of course this will get a lot of attention and he counted on it, its just he thought it will play a lot different than this.
 
I don't know if he'll or not. But imo it's extremely stupid and lacking self respect to smile and shake the hands of someone who just spat on you. We'll be a laughing stock and look down on by the whole football world if this piece of shit ever plays for us again.

Football wise speaking yeah he might play a big part in making the team much much worse.
One of the things that sets out great leadership from bad is the way they handle conflicts. If we start from the understand that everyone makes mistakes in an emotional setting you realise that people are going to make bad decisions from time to time, that doesn't mean they're useless and can offer nothing over the space of the rest of the year.

It's the managers job to dish our fines, cut people out of the team or give them a bollocking when they step out of line, then he has to leave the door slightly ajar to allow the player a way back into the good books by responding well to that feedback. If you don't allow that you're telling everyone else that if they feck up at any point, they're gone and they'll never regain your trust again. That's not a conducive background for trust and freedom of expression.

Ronaldo can leave as soon as someone makes a bid for him, we'll all be glad when he's gone but in the mean time it's been handled well and no one's been spat on.
 
Rashford was downtooling for a year, last year. I think it's way more offensive than leaving with minutes to go in one game, don't you think so?

Has Rashford ever apologized to fans? or do you think that's more acceptable?

He had no reason to not try for England, but he was awful for them too.

He was just in really bad form, had a mental block and/or wasn't 100% fit.
 
Ah the Ronaldo fanboys are out in force this morning. A few live ones in the last couple pages :lol:
 
Rashford was downtooling for a year, last year. I think it's way more offensive than leaving with minutes to go in one game, don't you think so?

Has Rashford ever apologized to fans? or do you think that's more acceptable?
Its irrelevant. One has nothing to do with the other. One is hard facts - Ronaldo left. One is supposition.
 
Well firstly, it's not a lynching so keep it in perspective. He's fined and pretty much suspended in the short term. That seems measured to me all things considered.

And where is the doubt in your mind?
There is no doubt anymore, the poster was referring to the match day where I said I would wait for the facts before going in on him for being a child.
 
Rashford was downtooling for a year, last year. I think it's way more offensive than leaving with minutes to go in one game, don't you think so?

Has Rashford ever apologized to fans? or do you think that's more acceptable?

The two are not comparable, it's not even worth explaining why if you don't see it automatically.
 
But thats the point. If you are the biggest named player on 500k a week you have a higher level of responsibility. Rightly or wrongly you just cant do certain sht because of the consequences. Like the King calling someone a cnt. Or the president passing out drunk. All normal things that happen everyday. You can say oh well Joe the builder did it and no one said anything. Yes true but its different for you. Celebrities and people the higher and higher up you go know they there are certain things they can and cannot get away with. Ronaldo knew what would happen if he did this and did it anyway. Thats worse because he did it for the attention to make a point and took all the talking points away from his teammates onto him feeling sorry for himself
Agreed, I cant believe this thing doesnt matter or that its not news. He's the highest paid player in the league. I dont think we should ever have signed him but that doesnt really matter here. He is being entirely unprofessional and club need to get him out or cancel his contract. Its clear since the summer he doesnt want to be here. He could dig in and support the team but thats not who he is.
 
Just because someone has done something before doesn't mean it's the same in every case, and yes, it's easy to say these things after the facts have come out. I prefer to wait for the facts before condemning someone. There's no prizes award for being the first to call someone a cnut, in fact everyone loses.

So you give the benefits of doubts constantly and continuously to people even when they are repeating the same behavior. You essentially never doubts people?

And why do you act as if it was question of calling someone's name, the point here is to criticize his repeated behavior, which has been officially sanctioned by the club.
 
The amount of deluded Ronaldo fans I came across earlier is simply staggering.

It is cult-like and embarrassing.
 
I really looks like the club is done with Ronaldo and his nonsense.. Hope he gets the message and fecks off.
 
The two are not comparable, it's not even worth explaining why if you don't see it automatically.

For me what Rashford did last year is way more offensive that what ROnaldo has done. But Rashford becomes useful this season while ROnaldo is shit. So obviously, like every walk of life, the useful one is way more be forgiven than the shite one.
 
But thats the point. If you are the biggest named player on 500k a week you have a higher level of responsibility. Rightly or wrongly you just cant do certain sht because of the consequences. Like the King calling someone a cnt. Or the president passing out drunk. All normal things that happen everyday. You can say oh well Joe the builder did it and no one said anything. Yes true but its different for you. Celebrities and people the higher and higher up you go know they there are certain things they can and cannot get away with. Ronaldo knew what would happen if he did this and did it anyway. Thats worse because he did it for the attention to make a point and took all the talking points away from his teammates onto him feeling sorry for himself

And in this case no one can do it, it's accepted from no one. Players leaving the bench or leaving their team early without the approval of the manager is a rarity because everyone knows that it's going to be a massive deal. Some are acting as if it was common.
 
There is no doubt anymore, the poster was referring to the match day where I said I would wait for the facts before going in on him for being a child.

Ah I think we've known for decades that he is a 'child' of some sort or other.

I remember a few years ago I was listening to Off The Ball I think and they did a really long and genuinely interesting interview with the guy who directed that dcumentary fil on Ronaldo. The director lad said that Ronnie was great, and open and nice and so on. It was all quite complimentary. Then a question came up that broached life after football and Ronaldo the man. The response was really interesting. The guy seemed to genuinely like Ronaldo so he was very measured in this answer and the tempo of the interview jarred a bit but he said in gentle terms, that there was no man, just the footballer, now he explained in detail what he meant, stressing he was good father and partner and host, but that in way that was more monomaniacal than other, his existence was defined by the fact he was a footballer and that he worried for how he would cope when he wasn't the 'Ronaldo' we saw breaking all records on the pitch. Now i know this must be the case for many top sportspeople but it was interesting how this chap who was with him a lot and in a way studying him, saw Ronaldo.

It stayed with me but the one thing I never expected was others to struggle similarly with his ageing and inevitable decline and talk about him as if it was 2010.
 
One of the things that sets out great leadership from bad is the way they handle conflicts. If we start from the understand that everyone makes mistakes in an emotional setting you realise that people are going to make bad decisions from time to time, that doesn't mean they're useless and can offer nothing over the space of the rest of the year.

It's the managers job to dish our fines, cut people out of the team or give them a bollocking when they step out of line, then he has to leave the door slightly ajar to allow the player a way back into the good books by responding well to that feedback. If you don't allow that you're telling everyone else that if they feck up at any point, they're gone and they'll never regain your trust again. That's not a conducive background for trust and freedom of expression.

Ronaldo can leave as soon as someone makes a bid for him, we'll all be glad when he's gone but in the mean time it's been handled well and no one's been spat on.
We were already spat on and the fecker didn't even bother to apologise.

It has been so far handled exactly like it should. Kudos to ETH and the top hierarchy. Hope we will keep this piece of shit out of the squad until he fecks off.
 
:lol:

Now Rashford's "conduct" is being compared to Ronaldo's

The Pogba comparisons didn't stick so they moved to Rashford, next it should be Shaw and his burgers, Maguire learning greek, De Gea stealing donuts or maybe Martial and his harem.
 
For me what Rashford did last year is way more offensive that what ROnaldo has done. But Rashford becomes useful this season while ROnaldo is shit. So obviously, like every walk of life, the useful one is way more be forgiven than the shite one.

While the thrust of your post is correct, a loss of form in an under performing team that he tediously apologised for is not the same as what Ronaldo is at. In any way. You can be as annoyed as you like about it, but it's not the comparable.
 
For me what Rashford did last year is way more offensive that what ROnaldo has done. But Rashford becomes useful this season while ROnaldo is shit. So obviously, like every walk of life, the useful one is way more be forgiven than the shite one.
Of course it isn't. What a ridiculous opinion.
 
Ronaldo's behaviour was wrong, but at least he apologized

Except he hasn’t apologised.

He has been very professional with his behaviour until the said moment at Tottenham game.

Like when he threw a tantrum against Brentford when he was subbed last season? Or when he refused to turn up for the pre-season tour? Or when he had his agent spend the whole summer trying to find him a new club? Or when he went public saying he wanted to leave? Or when he left a pre-season game early after being subbed? Or when he threw another tantrum when he was subbed against Newcastle?

Very ‘professional’ stuff.
 
:lol: He had his apologiser put that bit in after proofreading it.

I'm convinced that as @moses suggested it was the first sentence that they came up with or as you say they added it after realizing that it was missing. I'm disappointed by the lack of Ballon d'Or though. :lol:
 
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Or whenever there's an off performance or dropped points they'll overamplify it to undermine ten Hag and canonize Ronaldo.
Yeah, even our ex-players/pundits are on it - albeit not directly criticising the manager (unless I’ve missed something). One of them were talking about Ronaldo like a top 3 player in the league. Delusional. The guys an absolute football goat but gosh, age catches up to everyone. Literally no shame in that. Should never have been brought back to the club.
 
Ah thanks. @duffer too.

Still talks shit though.

What he said makes sense if you are talking about prime Ronaldo and the present and future of your is supposed to rely on Ronaldo. Where he is wrong and where Ronaldo is also seemingly wrong is that the dynamic changed. In this case it's Ronaldo that should try his best to contact ETH and find out what his place can be and how he can help ETH.
 
More of a celebrity than a footballer these days. I hope we milk his fanboys of money on CR7 shirts, and let him go in the winter.
 
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