Ronaldo | Refused to come on as sub, left OT | Axed from squad for Chelsea & fined 2 weeks wages

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All these Ronaldo fans somehow trying to justify his actions is nearly as bad as the way he’s behaved.. pathetic don’t even come close..
 
Ronaldo is still living in past glory, he feels that he deserve respect from everyone. I cannot understand why does he think he can do what he wants. ETH was extremely unhappy when it first happened and he does it again. To me, he is openly telling everyone that he doesn't want to be here. If I am ETH, I would issue a statement that Ronaldo will be permanently be away from Utd and will be allowed to leave immediately if conditions are met. I think the club is trying to show respect for our legend however, Ronaldo is not returning the favor. I just hope Martial is fit for Sunday and we promote a young striker into XI. I don't think I will see Ronaldo playing for Utd again.
 
Do you think 7 months is a long time when something like that happens?
Do you really think he's doing this because he lost his kid? That is what I'm trying to dispute here. It doesn't matter when he lost his child but does that make you become disrespectful towards your teammates, manager, staff, fans?

Jesus wept. I am not justifying his behaviour, I criticised his lack of a real apology. I never said it was the cause of his behaviour. You made a comment dismissing the issue of him having a kid die and I pointed out that not everyone can get over that sort of thing right away. Did you skip comprehension in English class at school??
You replied to my post where the only thing I was trying to dismiss is the fact that the other poster was trying to justify his behavior now because he lost his kid. He can have issues with his child loss, but how and why does that justify this whole drama now? Also, no need for the snide remarks.
 
I don't know what's worse, disrespecting the team, the manager and the club like that by walking off the pitch like a petulant manchild or writing that nonsense where he doesn't even try to apologize for it. "united we must stand".. give me a break. Get the whiny little feck out of the club.
 
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I'm not trying to justify Ronaldo's behavior. I don't think what he did was right. But can we for a second humanize this sport and understand that a person reacted in a bad manner because he wanted to contribute. On a daily basis we make mistakes, and they are forgiven, because we are not in the public spotlight. This was not any different.
 
Do you really think he's doing this because he lost his kid? That is what I'm trying to dispute here. It doesn't matter when he lost his child but does that make you become disrespectful towards your teammates, manager, staff, fans?

I don’t know. Perhaps to some extent yes. It’s why I’d rather not stick the boot in and just hope this ends quickly and smoothly for all parties.
 
ETH is my manager. A perfect response to this twat. I hope he never wears a MUFC shirt again.
 
A legend of the game. A great of the club from his first stint here.

But he shouldn’t put the jersey on again. It’s a sorry, sad image after a great career, but him turning and walking down the tunnel should be the final moments of his United career.
 
Do you really think he's doing this because he lost his kid? That is what I'm trying to dispute here. It doesn't matter when he lost his child but does that make you become disrespectful towards your teammates, manager, staff, fans?
It's definitely possible that this still affects him. He seems to love his children and he seems to love playing football. Fate took a child from him and ETH took playing football from him, he might feel that he's losing everything.

Of course that is a very dramatic way to put it and looking rationally at it he simply isn't good enough to play at the moment, but is he in the psychological shape to be rational about it? I would still give him the benefit of doubt as a person.

Doesn't change the fact that he as a player currently isn't fit to be part of the squad if he reacts this way, but it's at least possible that we should rather call for him getting more time to get back to a normal life than calling for him getting booted out.
 
Just makes Rooney look like a proper legend. The caf used to hate on him so much, but not once did he pull a stunt like this that disrespected the fans, the club or the manager during a game. Ronaldo can learn a thing or two from Rooney.
 
Just makes Rooney look like a proper legend. The caf used to hate on him so much, but not once did he pull a stunt like this that disrespected the fans, the club or the manager during a game. Ronaldo can learn a thing or two from Rooney.
Well, Rooney is the club legend, indeed. Ronaldo is not, of course.
 
The state of his statement... wtf does it cost to acknowledge his mistake and say sorry to the team and fans ? Everything is polemic with him

He looked like he was about to apologise… and then he didn’t. Meaningless crap.
 
After reading his Instagram post, now i understand why the Mother to Everton boy his phone got slap down, want justice, honestly right now i wish she takes him to court.
 
Never forget they way he used to carry on during his first stint. He couldn't wait to leave for Madrid.

Was a terrible mistake bringing him back, as if Pep would have even taken him.

Needs to show a bit of grace and get the feck out.

Props to ETH for how he's dealt with this saga.
 
Just makes Rooney look like a proper legend. The caf used to hate on him so much, but not once did he pull a stunt like this that disrespected the fans, the club or the manager during a game. Ronaldo can learn a thing or two from Rooney.

Rooney threw his toys out of the the pram too and was only convinced to stay by SAF and a massive new contract. I know that Ronaldo's act of petulance was public, but Rooney was a mercenary too. Both will always be legends. Just because things don't work out doesn't mean you can't still be a legend. Look at Keane and Stam - both left under a cloud for different reasons. Keane is without question a legend and some would argue that Stam is too.
 
Anyone who has been defending Ronaldo is a Ronaldo fan, not a United fan. Even worse, anyone actually blaming ETH for the situation is an idiot.

The day Ronaldo & his gaggle of fan boys leave this club the better. The way grown men worship this guy is utterly embarrassing.
 
Anyone who has been defending Ronaldo is a Ronaldo fan, not a United fan. Even worse, anyone actually blaming ETH for the situation is an idiot.

The day Ronaldo & his gaggle of fan boys leave this club the better. The way grown men worship this guy is utterly embarrassing.
Are you a Post Malone fan?
 
He did a stupid thing. 7 games to go before WC, then another 2 games before January transfer window. Your team is winning the game without you and have played brilliant game of football, you won't get sympathy from anyone (well, other than Pierce Morgan). It was childish and just wrong. WC is close, be professional until then and when you're back to Manchester, January is just around the corner.
 
Imagine a 37 year old Giggs charging down the sideline because Fergie didn't bring him on :lol:

I miss the good old days
 
Rooney threw his toys out of the the pram too and was only convinced to stay by SAF and a massive new contract. I know that Ronaldo's act of petulance was public, but Rooney was a mercenary too. Both will always be legends. Just because things don't work out doesn't mean you can't still be a legend. Look at Keane and Stam - both left under a cloud for different reasons. Keane is without question a legend and some would argue that Stam is too.

From someone who’ll happily admit there’s an asterisk next to Rooney, Keane and Stam I would say the difference is that their complaints were with others players, the team, ambition etc - more conceptual ideas of progress.

Ronaldo’s issue is that he isn’t the star man. There’s a difference that makes me understand the dislike more.

Again, I love Ronaldo, Rooney, Keane etc warts and all.
 
Don't think it's fair to tar Rooney with this brush at all. I can never imagine Rooney refusing to play, or not giving his absolute all every time he stepped foot on the pitch.

His concerns were, with hindsight, entirely justified and correct imo.
 
Can't wait for Cristiano to leave in January so Jones is again our only outfield player with PL medal. And there's an option to extend his contract for another year :devil:
 
To be honest, the whole thing is quite disappointing, from summer preseasons leading to this. But I guess it’s inevitable. Self-obsessed player like Ronaldo would always refuse to give up and not being the best, that’s why he is able to push himself to the limits for so many years, and achieved so many great things. But no human being could fight against mother nature on aging and physical decline, and it seems he simply couldn’t accept the whole situation, which is becoming a problem for us this season.

I think ETH was right in the way he handled this. Absolutely Ronaldo should not involve in our next game as punishment. Hopefully its best if we just part ways with Ronaldo in January. Personally I still wish him a good WC, but I doubt we will see him getting alot of action for us in future. We should start to build a team without Ronaldo from now on, and for the future.
 
From someone who’ll happily admit there’s an asterisk next to Rooney, Keane and Stam I would say the difference is that their complaints were with others players, the team, ambition etc - more conceptual ideas of progress.

Ronaldo’s issue is that he isn’t the star man. There’s a difference that makes me understand the dislike more.

Again, I love Ronaldo, Rooney, Keane etc warts and all.

I'm not sure I agree with you. I think that Ronaldo would accept a limited role in a successful team but doesn't see playing in the Europa league as success - he wants to be in the CL. Who knows the ins and outs of it, but in my opinion, Ronaldo is frustrated at the team's lack of success and therefore his own lack of success. In this respect, I think he is similar to Rooney. For me, how he publicly did it last night, with the team winning and playing the best they have in arguably a couple of years, makes his behavior an irritation and unnecessary distraction.

I think no matter what way you look at it, he's probably done as a player for United.
 
Do you really think he's doing this because he lost his kid? That is what I'm trying to dispute here. It doesn't matter when he lost his child but does that make you become disrespectful towards your teammates, manager, staff, fans?


You replied to my post where the only thing I was trying to dismiss is the fact that the other poster was trying to justify his behaviour now because he lost his kid. He can have issues with his child loss, but how and why does that justify this whole drama now? Also, no need for the snide remarks.
I didnt say I thought he was doing this because of his kid. Good grief.
I did mention how I have friends who lost a child before birth and even now they still grieve. The reason I mentioned that is because different people grieve in different ways and over different time frames. If someone is grieving for something such as that then quite often their behaviour can be erratic or misunderstood. There is no timeframe that applies to everyone on this. The other poster wasnt using that to justify the behavour now and neither am I, the other poster was simply pointing out that the summer had been difficult.
If I was snide then good, you deserved it and if you think thats snide then good, you finally put your comprehension part of your brain into action.
Try reading and comprehending what people are saying rather than letting the whiney little voices in your head give you the bullshit interpretations you keep coming up with.

Just so you can understand fully, I never said he was doing this because he lost his kid.
 
Not in anyway defending what he did yesterday but not a single person on this forum knows what it takes to succeed like he has.

To be able to keep going at such an elite level for this length of time is just mind boggling. I can only imagine the dedication and sacrifice he has had to endure to be where he is. He is very single minded and I can understand how such a person could react in that way when the realisation starts to set in that he is approaching the end of his career much faster than he thought, his status has waned and perhaps his ending is not going to be in a blaze of glory he wished for.

I wish him well and I hope that his ending at United fits with the wider success story of his career. I think he deserves it.Very petulant yesterday, extremely disappointing.
Neither do you what it takes to make a team successful given the way you talk. Rather than taking a dig at caf posters for not knowing how it feels to be as successful as Ronaldo it would be better for you perhaps to find out how it feels to be a fan when one player is hellbent on undermining the whole club you love and not for the first time. What an awful post.
 
It's a shame that two of our most modern legends have slight marks against their name now, Rooney with his contract extension and Ronaldo with comparing himself to a slave for being kept here while he was flirting with Madrid and now this.

Rooney keeps his legend status for me, but I think Ronaldo has lost his (he was on the edge anyway).
 
The way he left the first time round left a sour taste, the comeback of last season was one of very few silver linings but this finishes him for me as a United fan. He was never truly ours.
 
I’m loving this to be honest, it was nauseating looking at the pining over him in this place for years, and all the mental shenanigans trying to justify him moving to City as compatible with this supposed great love for United, while he has always laid bare the fact that he cares for nothing but his achievements for the whole world to see. Watching this club cave in to these lunatics and bringing him back at the detriment of the team was infuriating and very fortunately we have a manager with a backbone now who can navigate this situation and let you sit back and enjoy the meltdown.

He’ll be gone in January.
 
I didnt say I thought he was doing this because of his kid. Good grief.
I did mention how I have friends who lost a child before birth and even now they still grieve. The reason I mentioned that is because different people grieve in different ways and over different time frames. If someone is grieving for something such as that then quite often their behaviour can be erratic or misunderstood. There is no timeframe that applies to everyone on this. The other poster wasnt using that to justify the behavour now and neither am I, the other poster was simply pointing out that the summer had been difficult.
If I was snide then good, you deserved it and if you think thats snide then good, you finally put your comprehension part of your brain into action.
Try reading and comprehending what people are saying rather than letting the whiney little voices in your head give you the bullshit interpretations you keep coming up with.

Just so you can understand fully, I never said he was doing this because he lost his kid.
:lol: Why does this need to be brought up in this thread now then? What else are you guys trying to convey by bringing up that he lost his child, had a difficult summer, if not to justify his behavior in this incident ? Honestly feels like people go to any length to support Ronaldo and don't want to see things for what they are.

Oh, by the way he didn't even issue any public apology yet. Does he need to grieve more before he can issue a simple apology for his childish behavior?
 
Basically he admitted he was wrong in losing his cool not being able to handle his frustration.

If he can play for the team and not for himself, he can be valuable off the bench and starting some games.

If not, three strikes you’re out.
 
The loss of a kid is nothing to sneer at and it affects some people differently to others. I have some friends who lost a child during pregnancy 10 years ago and they still celebrate the child they nearly had and they still grieve. Not everyone is as tough as you.
I lost a newborn child at 4 hours old. Given 3 weeks leave and then had to return to work as normal.

Poor little rich kid still needs to be coddled.
 
Reading that statement again - what a joke it is. Absolutely ridiculous. Says nothing at all. Takes 0 responsibility, doesn't apologize, just makes it all about him. Hope he never plays again for United.
 
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