Meaning you haven't seen how poor Everton has been this season.
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Meaning you haven't seen how poor Everton has been this season.
Meaning I have watched Darmain and Rojo
scored the same number of goals as Giroud in the last 4 seasons.
He lacks the finesse of a top striker. Martial and Rashford are younger than him and their ball control and use of the ball is much better. Lukaku is essentially a good battering ram up front, a bit like Iain Dowie.
You compare Iain Dowie with 70 goals in roughly 300 games with Lukaku who has 60 goals in 170 matches in the P.L at the age of 22. You compare Dowie who was notorious for not being quick with Lukaku who is lightning quick ? Impressive.
He had a poor game - because he single-handedly created 4-5 chances and failed to score ? Yes he should have done better - but I have seen no striker cause Blind and Smalling more problems the entire season. And he is 22 years old.
I see one reason not to sign him - Martial and Rashford.
I may not have been being entirely serious with the comparison.
The rest of my post stands though.
sorry just sounded funny.On a more serious note, Lukaku is a very good striker and at an age where there is room for improvement. The only issue for me is that he is clumsy and his technique let's him down often. He's not got the close control you generally expect from a top tier striker.
That he missed a few chances isn't a problem. The fact that he's getting the chances shows good presence and movement.
His lack of a first touch IMO means, he probably will never be as good as Hary Kane.
Ian Dowie
Kane is just better. He'd of had a hat trick against us yesterday.
I don't think we can pass comments about Lukaku based on his showing yesterday as he was so isolated by his Everton teammates .
You can be a great striker but if your team doesn't give you good distribution then you're nothing.
You can be a great striker but if your team doesn't give you good distribution then you're nothing.
He is exactly what we lack to help out Rashford in the 9 role for next season. Martial is best on the flanks where he has more space to wreck havoc
Touch can always be improved upon. Remember Andy Cole. Arrived as a poacher with average touch, left as a goal scoring hold up and link player.
On a more serious note, Lukaku is a very good striker and at an age where there is room for improvement. The only issue for me is that he is clumsy and his technique let's him down often. He's not got the close control you generally expect from a top tier striker.
That he missed a few chances isn't a problem. The fact that he's getting the chances shows good presence and movement.
Debatable. And if a player's touch can improve, the improvements would be minuscule.
The key is once again to buy the player for what he is and not what he could be, in general 23 years old is the age where strikers are properly formed they can improve their basic skills but it's rarely a drastic improvement. I apologies in advance but if Lukaku has an average touch, he should be purchase for a fee that match that deficiency and since I'm pretty Everton will disagree, Lukaku isn't what we need.
Well if Rooney is a central midfielder now we certainly would need another striker in the team. While I would prefer to get Dybala or Kane I also have to realize that they might not be obtainable for us at this time so Lukaku might have to do. The problem with him is that I just don't see a player with his limited technical abilities ever being a world class striker but then again he gets a lot of goals and looking at our goals scored this season it's something that we sorely need.
Lukaku is one of the best strikers in the league and up until a month ago a would have welcomed him with open arms but now with rise of Rashford I'm not so sure about signing him or any top class striker anymore. If we get him or any other top striker it would seriously hamper the chances for Rashford next season, I would rather spend the money on someone like Griezmann who can play in multiple positions and can also play up top if needed.
I don't think he's anywhere near worth the money, it again reeks to me of the Benteke signing, lots of people see his goals and think that's all it's about but when you compare him to Kane is night and day. Lukaku is a good player, but he lacks the technical game to ever be a top tier striker. I would much rather we bring in ibra for a year or look for another very talented player e.g Dybala
I have very mixed feelings about him. He's a regular scorer, there again everyone looks better with Everton (Howard, Phil, Gibson, Fellaini, Cleverley etc). The pressure is not that high, the hype is incredible and teams tend to attack them more, leaving gaps in defenses for strikers to score. He doesn't strike me as being a very technical player or a world class finisher either. He's an alrounder (strong, fast, good eye to goal and good movement) without excelling in anything. Considering that
a- we've already got Rashford (7 goals in 14 appearances), Martial (a much better player in every sense) and Rooney (on decline but still a regular scorer)
b- Lukaku would cost 40-50m
c- he's not particularly technically gifted
Id rather see us add 10-20m to the mix and bring a quality winger whose capable of scoring goals and move Martial upfront/buy Harry Kane then buying Lukaku. Mahrez on the right, Dembele on the left, Griezmann as no 10 and Martial/Rashford upfront would sort our creative spark for the next decade. I would complain if we get Mahrez on the right, Dembele on the left and Martial and Kane upfront
a- we've already got Rashford (7 goals in 14 appearances), Martial (a much better player in every sense) and Rooney (on decline but still a regular scorer)
b- Lukaku would cost 40-50m
c- he's not particularly technically gifted
Id rather see us add 10-20m to the mix and bring a quality winger whose capable of scoring goals and move Martial upfront/buy Harry Kane then buying Lukaku. Mahrez on the right, Dembele on the left, Griezmann as no 10 and Martial/Rashford upfront would sort our creative spark for the next decade. I would complain if we get Mahrez on the right, Dembele on the left and Martial and Kane upfront
I know, and yet he's a lot younger! Impressive stuff
I am in the minority of United fans that don't think Lukaku is all that, definitely not what we "need" and please this is not on the back of yesterday's game. Lukaku really doesn't have much to his game. He's very clumsy with the ball and doesn't have great movement, i like strikers who have a lot of varieties, Lukaku doesn't. He's a good player though, but that's it. Not worthy of a 60m investment.
Being young should always be the deciding factor.
Not really, but players tend to get better as they reach their prime
Lukaku is a very good player and his goal return is outstanding when you factor in his age, but you can't help but feel he lacks something.
I'd much rather Ibramovic for the short term, and let other younger players learn and be the future.
He's already had 6 seasons of competitive football, I would suggest this is his prime.
To continue the Giroud comparison, he also has 6 years of top level experience, with 3 years prior in the lower leagues.
Me too
The regrettable truth.
I wonder how many watch most of his games. yesterday was probably an eye opener, as bad touches meant he had to shoot from terrible angles a few times. A better touch and he'd have had great scoring opportunities.
And it'd probably take 60m!
That's what people constantly ignore with Lukaku. Age has nowhere near the baring people think it does. There is a correlation between a player reaching his peak and age of course, but there are reasons for that. Experience and physical development usually go hand in hand with age. But being young doesn't always mean you aren't experienced or physically ready. Lukaku was physically superior to 9/10 players at the age of 17 and was therefore able to play top level football. Therefore he's more experienced than many much older players. At nearly 23, he's played more top level games than most 26 year olds.
Agree. The guy's just too big to ever have the touch and close control of the very best strikers.
Nothing to do with his size, he is just lacking technically.
He's nowhere near good enough for a top team.
Possibly but in most cases the bigger you are the less dexterity and feeling for the ball you have. There are some exceptions but this is the case the majority of the time.
Lukaku is very top heavy, big broad shoulders, very thick set. It just doesn't lend itself to deftness of touch.
The touch of a rapist
This! His touch is not good enough and he doesn't know how to hold the ball well enough to keep the flow of the attack going. And he hasn't improved these weakness since he was on loan at West Brom. Reasons why Mourinho sold him. Even though he has a goal instinct, very strong and quick which giving a trouble to opposition defenders but defenders can stop him if they use their brain instead of trying to outmuscled and outpaced Lukaku. I am a fans of Lukaku in mid table team but he's not good enough yet for top team. Top team requires more than just the goals.
I'd much rather have a 28-29 year old striker having 2-3 seasons left in him, kind of what we did with RVP. We sell them or just keep that Striker as a squad player and then watch as PL is dominated by Martial, Rashford, and hopefully also by guys like Januzaj, Pereira and Wilson
Van Gaal said he had to convince the club to sign Bastian because they thought he was to old. We aren't going to sign a 35 year old striker that expects a huge contract. I don't want Lukaku either.
Would still make a big offer for him this summer. We can all want Griezmann, just like last summer but it doesn't ever look like happening.
He's scored over 16 goals in each of the past 4 seasons. That's twice more than Rooney in weaker teams by the way. The last 2 Zealand have been 20+. That's more than Rooney has managed in his last 4.
He also plays regularly and can stay fit while having the attributes we lack up front. Simply put.
After last weekend everyone may rue his technique and say he's too top heavy but over the course of a season in England those are the exact qualities you want in your team more often than not.
He's scored over 16 goals in each of the past 4 seasons. That's twice more than Rooney in weaker teams by the way. The last 2 Zealand have been 20+. That's more than Rooney has managed in his last 4.
He also plays regularly and can stay fit while having the attributes we lack up front. Simply put.
After last weekend everyone may rue his technique and say he's too top heavy but over the course of a season in England those are the exact qualities you want in your team more often than not.
Must have spent some time in Higuain's school of big game bottling and Rooneys school of first touch
The thing is we can find far better players for the £65m Everton are rumoured to want. I don't even think he has the potential to be a £65m player. His lack of a good firt touch IMO means he will never be much better than he is now.
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