Yea I remember those days. People just like to moan it seems...
9
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 51
- Goals
- 27
- Assists
- 10
- Yellow cards
- 3
- Status
Seen it all now Lukaku is the laziest striker you have ever seen for Utd ?
Take it you were not a Utd fan when we signed a certain Spurs striker
I don't think people are criticising his goalscoring or his production at all. A lot of you get very defensive acting like people must have an agenda against him.
I want him to succeed - I was impressed with him in the period between the City game and last Wednesday but the reality is there's too many games where his limited technical ability stands out. Badly.
We get away with that at home to Huddersfield obviously but when away in a CL QF we'll need much more than what we seen over the last week. The reality is highlighted even more when you see what a true world class talent like Sanchez brings - That's what we're up against and the standard we're trying to reach.
Lukaku has shown that there's a role for him at this club for sure. He's got his qualities which can't be understated but if we're to get to another level - Something we need to do domestically as well as in Europe then we may need to change things around for certain games if not sign another forward, I would rather do the former and trust what we have while giving Lukaku the opportunities to prove his worth.
I want him to succeed - I was impressed with him in the period between the City game and last Wednesday but the reality is there's too many games where his limited technical ability stands out. Badly.
We get away with that at home to Huddersfield obviously but when away in a CL QF we'll need much more than what we seen over the last week. The reality is highlighted even more when you see what a true world class talent like Sanchez brings - That's what we're up against and the standard we're trying to reach.
Lukaku has shown that there's a role for him at this club for sure. He's got his qualities which can't be understated but if we're to get to another level - Something we need to do domestically as well as in Europe then we may need to change things around for certain games if not sign another forward, I would rather do the former and trust what we have while giving Lukaku the opportunities to prove his worth.
Just checked how bad he is with his touch. Used players with more than 9 starts as a forward. He's 20th out of 26 per game in terms of unsuccessful touches for people who have played up front. The 6 better are Gabbiadini, Kane, Joselu, Vardy, Jesus and Lacazette.
He's 17th out of 26 for being dispossessed. So yes he could be better but he's not awful at controlling the ball. He's just inconsistent at it as I said in my post before his weaknesses.
Gabbiadini, Vardy, Gayle, Joselu, Jesus, Gray, Long, Benteke and Murray get dispossessed less per game.
He's 17th out of 26 for being dispossessed. So yes he could be better but he's not awful at controlling the ball. He's just inconsistent at it as I said in my post before his weaknesses.
Gabbiadini, Vardy, Gayle, Joselu, Jesus, Gray, Long, Benteke and Murray get dispossessed less per game.
So one in two scoring ratio in the league isn't good enough for some eh??!
The guy has 19 goals in 30 odd games, not sure what more he has to do, score a brace against every top six side maybe??
Some people...
The guy has 19 goals in 30 odd games, not sure what more he has to do, score a brace against every top six side maybe??
Some people...
These are interesting stats. Where did you get them from?
Also, in terms of a bad first touch, you don't necessarily have to lose the ball. A bad first touch can slow play down or hamper a counter attack for example. I like Lukaku though and I think his link play in particular is underrated.
And the sticks he gets for the big games is unfair. How many of our players have been consistently impressive on the big games apart from De Gea?
I love him! If he didn't have that lean spell he'd be close to 30 right now.
Whoscored.
Another interesting stat is that apart from Sterling he has less shots per game than the players with more goals than him.
The top 10:
Kane - 5.9 (21)
Salah - 4 (19)
Aguero - 3.9 (17)
Sterling - 2.5 (14)
Lukaku - 2.8 (12)
Vardy - 1.7(12)
Firmino - 2.3 (11)
Morata - 3 (10)
Rooney - 1.5 (10)
Lacazette - 2.2 (9)
Finally someone nails it!
I just don't get the Lukaku criticisms. This guy is 24 and in his first season with us and at a big club. Hasn't he scored like 19 goals this season? Maybe we deserve Morata or Lacazette.
Minus Kane and Aguero, we have the best striker in the league and give him one more season plus a better team around him, he'll be a real beast.
Lukaku had a good game today and finished his chance nicely. Don’t understand the criticism on here.
If we start putting more crosses in and play to his strengths, he'll score even more. Might be an old fashioned way to play these days but I'd like to see him with a right footed right winger and left footed left winger swinging crosses in to him for 90 minutes.
I like him. Like his attitude but his all round game needs a lot of work.
There are sometimes his movement is as bad as Benteke's.
There are sometimes his movement is as bad as Benteke's.
Yeah, working out conversion rates from that using total shots:Kane with almost 6 shots per game
Kane 14.89
Salah 19.79
Aguero 20.99
Sterling 22.95
Lukaku 17.39
Vardy 27.91
Firmino 20.37
Morata 16.95
Rooney 31.25
Lacazette 16.36
We have to see the performances, the fee and the player from a perspective where we as a club had Zero pure centre forwards. Except an ageing Rooney on big wages that we had trouble getting rid of and an injured 36 year old Zlatan. We maybe could have gone for 2-3 wingers instead and gambled on Martial and Rashford but that would be a big risk. There wasn't that many top CF's in the market and this guy was PL-proven and while not perfect he is a steady player that guarantees a lot of goals each season. The other realistic options haven't done a lot better than him this season.
If he stop putting up the numbers, or doesn't improve overall play, then we can just replace him down the line. But lets enjoy his time here first and lets see how far he can take it. If he eventually just perform as a stopgap solution, then thats what it is and we replace him when the time is right. If not then great!
If he stop putting up the numbers, or doesn't improve overall play, then we can just replace him down the line. But lets enjoy his time here first and lets see how far he can take it. If he eventually just perform as a stopgap solution, then thats what it is and we replace him when the time is right. If not then great!
He could've been immense if he had a better first touch and better technique overall.
Problem with Lukaku is that when he gets a chance, I expect him to miss.
I guess we've been spoilt with psst strikers such as Cole, RvN, Rooney etc
I guess we've been spoilt with psst strikers such as Cole, RvN, Rooney etc
I thought he was very poor in the 1st, but did better in the 2nd half.
His deficiencies are glaring though.
His deficiencies are glaring though.
I've thought for a long time that we'd be better off with a mobile, 'can create chances for himself' type of striker but he's here now so we have to make the most of it.
It's not like he's doing that bad or anything.
It's not like he's doing that bad or anything.
Cole missed an absolute shedload of chances.
Rooney missed his fair share of chances as well throughout his career.
Lukaku's not a poor finisher by any means.
So, if he was a better footballer basically.
Highlights for me:
- My wife seeing a close up and screaming its Stormzy.
- goal
- debate on race
- subbed
-
- My wife seeing a close up and screaming its Stormzy.
- goal
- debate on race
- subbed
-
It definitely isn't good enough for someone with Lukaku's weaknesses. He needs to be around 2 in 3 at minimum for us.
He isn’t very good at getting snap shots away, you hardly ever see him working a bit of space and shooting from the edge of the box. He did it more at Everton but now at United he struggles against those deep defences. Kane, Aguero and Salah are very good at creating that little bit of space and pooping shots off quickly.
So what's the word here today. He scored but he should this he should that he's not very good and so on?
I thought he had a really good game. Unlocked them with the goal but also worked hard the whole game and was all over the pitch.
I thought he had a really good game. Unlocked them with the goal but also worked hard the whole game and was all over the pitch.
I would rather my striker can bring players to play than only being clinical. Since last season Lukaku has always been clinical, but we saw it today, he was terrible overall, his movement is poor, even there was times and times the link up didn't work with him. Ironically he usually decent with his link up against the lesser teams but today he was terrible apart from the goal.
Look at RVP 2010/2011 scored 18 league goals with 3.9 shots per game, 2011/2012 scored 30 league goals with 4.6 shots per game, 2012/2013 scored 26 league goals with 3.7 shots per game. Less clinical than Lukaku, but we are all know who is more effective in overall game and who we would rather have.
I want to see Lukaku running at defenders at more and less with his back to the goal. The run and pass he made for Rashford before Pogba scored against Newcastle at OT is what I want to see Lukaku doing more of. When he goes to the right 1 on 1 and cuts inside he's really dangerous on the shoulder of the defender. When he's got his back to goal he struggles to hold the ball up but he still scored so that's good.
That goal is what Lukaku does well, quick ball played into the box and a neat finish. Problem is, the side Jose is building doesn't suit him, the style of the 3 behind him don't bring out the best in him.
He'll be a good player for us, can't see him becoming a world beater. Problem is, we don't have an attacking player who we can rely on to score consistent basis, so we become very reliant on his goals.
He'll be a good player for us, can't see him becoming a world beater. Problem is, we don't have an attacking player who we can rely on to score consistent basis, so we become very reliant on his goals.
Was a finish Jones would be proud of. Thought he was pretty good and that goal is everything Lukaku and how we need to play to him. Just pick up the pace at what we do things and put the ball in front of him to move on to and he’ll score 25-30 easily.
Pretty much, yes.
He got a lot of good strengths but he constantly lets himself and others down with his poor first touch.
This squad is far better than the one RvP was single-handedly dragging through games with (and not to mention the nature of his goals were more likely crucial winners). So if you're going to compare, I think it's fair to say Lukaku should be thriving more in these conditions. Moreso now that Sanchez is here.
Of course. Lukaku will never win on here.
Sarcasm? I'm not one to say we should drop him permanently and play Rashford ahead of him, because he clearly has his uses at times. And we don't have a better out and out striker right now unfortunately (though maybe a fluid front three of Martial + Sanchez + someone could do better at times) but he's clearly not the player to lift us to PL and CL winning level.
Exactly. First season at a new club higher expectations than any of the clubs he'd played before and he's doing a good job of scoring and assisting. Most of them here would've wanted Sane sold halfway though last season for his performances then.
Lukaku just scored from his left leg with a straight volley from an awkward left cross. Most players can't do that. Absolutely world class goal.
His runs in the game were impressive and read by Mata and sanchez.
His runs in the game were impressive and read by Mata and sanchez.
I honestly dont know what some of you see in his game to come out with things like “he works hard”. Lukaku doesnt press anyone.
Lukaku isnt one of thise guys constantly on the move and trying to get in behind if anything look how many times Lingard was the one on the last shoulder. What is this hard work that you guys see?
Lukaku isnt one of thise guys constantly on the move and trying to get in behind if anything look how many times Lingard was the one on the last shoulder. What is this hard work that you guys see?
Awkward left cross ? Sarcasm I hope.
- Status