how much does he cost in todays market? 120-150 mill?
I missed the game. I thought he scored?
I agree. How much do these wonderkids (stars in their teens) improve past their mid twenties? many burn out too
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- Assists
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You have to buy them young these days. Or else get an Alexis type deal where the player wants to move with little contract time remaining.
I knew as soon as he scored, people would forgive him for his lack of movement all game long.
Lingard was doing all the running in behind for him today and loads of moves broke down with Lukaku.
People are easily pleased here at United. He is not good enough for us.
Lingard was doing all the running in behind for him today and loads of moves broke down with Lukaku.
People are easily pleased here at United. He is not good enough for us.
There are players involved in 25 goals in the EPL alone. De Bruyne plays CM and has been involved in 25 goals. Lukaku leads the line. Its not enough for the minutes played
Yes, lets just sell our 75M flop or play Rashford ahead of him until the summer
Sums up really, the pacey version of Heskey, Giroud or Carroll. He's just not suitable with our players at all. We don't have the Baines, Beckham, De Bruyne, and Giggs crossings quality in our team. I would rather sell him than spend more more money to sign more players who can deliver quality crosses in consistent basis just to make him scoring goals. Pretty sure we will be fine in scoring goals relying on Martial Sanchez Lingard upfront.
I swear people in here are never satisfied and are just waiting for this guy to fail. 19 goals and 6 assists at this point in the season is even more than RVP managed at the same stage in his first season at United and he went on to score 30
I'd still rather him than last season's Ibrahimovic. There's no doubt Lukaku is instrumental in our ability to put away smaller teams. His link up is where most feel will necessitate an upgrade in the near future.
Watching the Arsenal game and Aubameyang had a beautiful first touch flick to find Mkhi for their first goal. That's the kind of link up service strikers give their attackers to break down packed defenses. Service isn't a one way street where the attackers do all the work and pass to the striker for tapins
Watching the Arsenal game and Aubameyang had a beautiful first touch flick to find Mkhi for their first goal. That's the kind of link up service strikers give their attackers to break down packed defenses. Service isn't a one way street where the attackers do all the work and pass to the striker for tapins
I can fully understand criticism over his general play. What I don't understand is what did people expect since he is playing exactly like he did for Everton and Belgium before he joined us. He is a good scorer, dangerous on the counter and even a decent passer. Overall his game is definitely lacking, but it was obvious even before. This is not Falcao, Di Maria, Veron situation where the player deteriorated when joining us. He is delivering according to his qualities. I would argue he is even a little bit better because his work rate improved in United and you can see that desire to succeed.
Altogether very good striker who will hardly elevate himself as a world-class one. We'll see where will that lead us, there is a decent chance we decide to upgrade on him. But, for now, he will do. It's not like there were many better choices in the summer and we were also desperate for a striker. Some wanted Lacazette, some Morata (me included) and out of those we got the best deal in the end. You could argue maybe about Icardi and that's about it.
That would get you Andy Caroll.
Altogether very good striker who will hardly elevate himself as a world-class one. We'll see where will that lead us, there is a decent chance we decide to upgrade on him. But, for now, he will do. It's not like there were many better choices in the summer and we were also desperate for a striker. Some wanted Lacazette, some Morata (me included) and out of those we got the best deal in the end. You could argue maybe about Icardi and that's about it.
That would get you Andy Caroll.
It's funny that United fans are now lamenting a striker that loves to get on the end of crosses. Maybe if we actually had wide players that could put a cross in he might actually score more???
Imagine if we had a winger or fullback that was extremely efficient with crosses (remember Perisic???). Lukaku would be scoring nearly a goal a game with the service.
Imagine if we had a winger or fullback that was extremely efficient with crosses (remember Perisic???). Lukaku would be scoring nearly a goal a game with the service.
He's a limited player no doubt, but no reason he can't improve. Don't think we have too many other options either right now, other than to rotate him with martial and rashford, to give him some rest and allow him time to work on his game. Not sure we would be replacing him anytime soon
Is that all you look at to judge?
No we are lawmnting him for his lack of runs not because he loves crosses. He loves the ball to feet when he is not that great with it.
That caveat is theres games he makes these runs and never gets the ball. The team basically doesnt know each other.
Exactly!
No idea what this guy has to do, we brought him in here to score goals - and he's done just that. He'll never be a deep-lying forward or playmaker, he's a classic #9 striker whose job is to get in the box and convert chances.
...and he's been fabulous in that regard.
Are people lamenting about having a striker that can convert on crosses or is this just a strawman? If that was the case we would be clamouring to bring back Welbeck. We now have a lethal set of attackers that can break teams down through the middle. No one gets Sanchez, Mata, Martial only to spam crosses all day. People are saying they want a striker that doesn't break the fluidity of attacks coming down the middle
Why are you speaking on behalf of everyone? If you aren't lamenting that he's a bit reliant on crosses then the post wasn't addressed to you. I have seen many posters say he needs service from wide areas to be more effective and thought it was funny based on United's history. That's all.
Apart from the goal I dont think he played great, would expect him to bring others more into play and hassle defenders, he seems too slow at times and the ball coming his way has to be ultra slow so he can control it decently, for 75m he should do better against a terrible side like huddersfield, but he scored...
I didn't think he had a poor game at all. Maybe I was watching another game then ? I though his performance was good overall in holding up the ball and passing it. Didn't expect these kind of replies after scoring an important goal today to break their defense. Ok, he has been rubbish against Spurs, and I agree than his performance against top teams hasn't been that good and must be improved as it has become a concern, but give him credit when he deserves it. Today he was good overall imo and good finish too.
That was a dreadful performance. The goal cannot mask that. His movement was very laboured which hasn’t been like him lately but the general play was even worse. Abysmal stuff.
State of this thread. And the guy scored imagine if he hadn't 
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Watch one of the moaners dig me out for that observation.
.Watch one of the moaners dig me out for that observation.
State of this thread. And the guy scored imagine if he hadn't
He wasn't dreadful, or anything of the sort. And he wasn't great either, despite scoring. Stats-brigade might try to maintain otherwise, but the problem is how our sole striker is central to how the team plays.
State of this thread. And the guy scored imagine if he hadn't
Watch one of the moaners dig me out for that observation.
I saw that white textTook his goal well, but I'm not convinced. What are our ambitions? To regularly make top 4? If so then yeah he's fine as leading striker. To be one of the best in Europe again? Then no, he's not the man.
Look at the elite clubs in Europe at the moment - Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, Juve, City (no point denying it), would he get into any of their starting elevens? No. Would he get into any of our great starting elevens of the past? No. He's a good option off the bench for a top club, not a starter.
Look at the elite clubs in Europe at the moment - Real, Barca, PSG, Bayern, Juve, City (no point denying it), would he get into any of their starting elevens? No. Would he get into any of our great starting elevens of the past? No. He's a good option off the bench for a top club, not a starter.
He scored a crucial goal today that wasn’t an easy take. His job is to stay in the box and score. 19 goals just over half way in the season, in his first year. Pretty, pretty good (love a bit of Larry David!)
We all know his limitations, so let’s not bang on about them.
We all know his limitations, so let’s not bang on about them.
State of this thread the guy will be sitting on 200 plus goals for us and posters with still be saying he isn't good enough
So are the other players wrong for playing it into him and expecting that he doesn't feck it up?
Some of you guys are incredibly short-sighted when it comes to evaluating football players. Watching him compared to a Kane or Lewandowski, Aguero etc he's so far off the pace in general footballing ability for a striker expected to take teams to title or CL. If you think guys like Ramos, Varane would be scared to face him .. you've got another thing coming.
He'll continue to score goals against smaller sides, but he's going to prove alot of you wrong and not in a good way.
He'll continue to score goals against smaller sides, but he's going to prove alot of you wrong and not in a good way.
Our pretty much every attacking player has stats in their favour, some even better than Lukaku's, so I am not sure why people here only talk about Lukaku's stats. He is our main attacking outlet this season playing in his favourite position unlike some other players who can't get single minute in his position.
He did. I’ve seen him score many other occasions over the last few years that I’ve thought he isn’t good enough for us too.
I agree. The state of United fans. We're juat as bad as Liverpool and Arsenal sometimes
I don't get you lot that are posting goal stats and comparing him to rvp. The fact is he is a very limited striker if we are aspiring to be a dominant side. Today was one of his better games and it wasnt good enough.
He is basically a poacher with a very erratic first touch. Not sure what else to say. Good striker but not the level we should be looking at.
He is basically a poacher with a very erratic first touch. Not sure what else to say. Good striker but not the level we should be looking at.
It's not at times. We're just as bad, simple. Just maybe not as annoying
To the ones claiming that he thrives if fed properly, well not really he needs to actually contribute by at least making good runs or controling balls like a pro footballer. Top strikers dont only need clear ass cut chances to score. The guy stands still all game, laziest striker i have seen in a united shirt.
Even when our players get wide his movement is horrible and it makes it look like our players are missing the final ball, on the contrary its him that makes it hard for them to pick him with him either standing still waiting for the ball to reach him or moving away from them without making a proper run. Top forwards make intelligent runs inside the box like say the runs strikers like Aquaro does or Nistelrooy and Cole used to make for United.
He is so limited its really a pain watching him, he does not fit United nor does he fit this current team.
Even when our players get wide his movement is horrible and it makes it look like our players are missing the final ball, on the contrary its him that makes it hard for them to pick him with him either standing still waiting for the ball to reach him or moving away from them without making a proper run. Top forwards make intelligent runs inside the box like say the runs strikers like Aquaro does or Nistelrooy and Cole used to make for United.
He is so limited its really a pain watching him, he does not fit United nor does he fit this current team.
He's not doing stepovers and dribbling past every player so it's clear he's not improved. Right?
Anyone paying attention can see his all-round game has improved since the start of the season. He's gotten better at linking up with the other players.
His weaknesses are his positioning in the box(needs to vary his positions more) and his inconsistency with his touch. He's currently at a 6 or 7 out of 10. Needs to get that to 8. Also, needs to chest a few more of the balls played up to him rather than flicking all of them. Needs some variety there as he'll have much more of an impact that way.
This.
If he gets the service, he will do well.
He scored so he kept the crowd off his back, other than that he was no existent.
I think Sanchez is struggling to link up play with a player with such little natural ability as well.
I think Sanchez is struggling to link up play with a player with such little natural ability as well.
Andy Cole had a very good United career, a lot of the fans knew better than Sir Alex did back then, just like they do now with Jose.
Some fans want the complete package and cannot accept anything less. If only life was that simple.
Looking at goals/assists using the top 10 in both assists and goals:
Kane- 21g/1a (22)
Salah - 19g/6a (25)
Aguero- 17g/5a (22)
Sterling - 14g/6a (20)
Vardy - 12g/1a (13)
Lukaku- 12g/5a (17)
Firmino - 11g/5a (16)
Morata - 10g/4a (14)
Rooney - 10g/2a (12)
Lacazette - 9g/3a (12)
De Bruyne - 7g/11a(18)
Sane - 7g/10a (17)
Pogba- 3g/9a (12)
Silva - 5g/8a (13)
Alli - 5g/7a (12)
Ozil - 4g/7a(11)
Mahrez - 8g/7a(15)
Ramsey - 6g/6a (12)
Azpilicueta - 1g/6a (7)
Eriksen - 7g/6a(13)
So Lukaku ranks 6 out of 20 in terms of direct involvement.
Interestingly for Lukaku he's assisted Martial with 3 goals and Mata has provided Lukaku with 3 goals. For us, only Pogba to Martial is better with 4.
Thought so too. Everyone out there was at the least good today with maybe Sanchez being the one who was very good.
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