I would say that as an out and out striker RvP is better than Rooney, but with what else Rooney brings to the table, Rooney edges it.
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I would say that as an out and out striker RvP is better than Rooney, but with what else Rooney brings to the table, Rooney edges it.
its up to kagawa and welbz to prove they are of higher quality in training.
furthermore we play 60+ matches a season, there are games to go around.
Better wrap this up quickly. The way things are now, as long as the deal's not signed it will still depend on the whims of the likes of psg/city/madrid/chelsea to suddenly snatch our target away at will.
What else do you believe Rooney brings to the table, that gives him the edge over a better out and out striker?
I can't say I put a lot of faith in MEN actually getting something right.
I think Rooney's all round play is a lot better, his link up play, passing, vision, the ability to pull something out the bag when needed, all this is just my opinion of course. But as far as an out and out striker, and by that I mean someone who is purely in the team to get goals, then I think RvP is the better person for that, i do believe RvP is a better finisher than Rooney.
RVP is a very good alround player, you underestimate him. He is a better dribbler than Rooney for one thing.
Don't mistaken me into thinking RvP isn't capable of the attributes I described above, because I know he is. It is just my opinion however that Rooney is better at them, which is what gives Rooney the edge for me.
in a nutshell!
i really dont understand this attitude which seems to be creeping in where by we say "we are only playing with one striker next year and we have 3 and so we dont need another". if better becomes available fergie isnt doing his job if he doesnt try to get that player in. RVP is 100% better than what we have and would walk into our team. therefore, for £20 - 25m its a no brainer.
agreed that a midfielder is still priority but in fergies judgement none are available at a fair price that would improve our team. he could sign a run of the mill midfielder to boost senior numbers but it would reduce playing time for ando, cleverley and petrucci whilst the player me only be better in experience and seniority.
the RVP situation is totally different. he's world class and would walk into the team, rooney, kagawa, welbeck and hernandez would all improve playing with him.
Could journalists be right for once please? Or is this too much to be asked for?
That signing would make my day.
That signing would make my day.
Kagawa would be moved out to the left I imagine and given the freedom to float in like Silva does for City.
Which leaves two of Nani, Valencia and Young sitting on the bench.
That's life at a top club, they can of course force Kagawa to the bench with good performances.
To be honest if we sign Van Persie I dont see Nani sticking around much longer.
Almost every single report I've read seems to ignore the issue of whether Arsenal will even sell to us. I can see them asking us for silly money just because it's us and we'll back out.
I don't see that as much of an issue, as long as they don't want to let him go for free next year.
As long as he wants to join us they will have to sell him to us when they want to get sth from him. I'm more worried about City promising crazy wages to him and RVP changing his mind.
As long as he wants to join us they will have to sell him to us when they want to get sth from him. I'm more worried about City promising crazy wages to him and RVP changing his mind.
I don't see how they have a choice tbh, the player holds all the cards here. Arsenal could of course hold onto the player and make him play out his contract, but that would be stupid really IMO.
I can't see you paying £20-25M fee and £10M a year wages for a 29 year old.
20 mil I can.
Especially as we have just saved 30 mill that we planned to spend on Lucas.
Especially as we have just saved 30 mill that we planned to spend on Lucas.
Not really much option unless they want to hold on to him and then see him go on a free do they? The only way they can keep him is if he does a u-turn and decide to stay however they should open their eyes and realise that £25 million (if that is to be the fee) or anything around that price for a player not to far from the end of his contract is a good deal.
Why do so many think that Nani will be leaving? He is wanting to stay, and will sign a new deal. Every time a new player is linked, it's Nani who's apparently going. RVP is a striker, and we are over reliant sometimes on Rooney to score the goals. Welbeck's finishing is poor and Hernandez has been pretty rubbish for over a year, and Berbatov's leaving.
Yeah, great idea. Sell our 2nd best player who is still only 25 in favour of a 29 year old.
I never said that it was a great idea or that I agreed with that idea of him leaving.
Merely pointing out why it will not happen. It'd be idiotic from the club.
So basically if we sign any player then that means nani is moving out?
Did I say that? At all?
If the player doesn't want to sign, then the club may not have much choice really.
It seems so, his name is brought up every time we're linked with someone regardless of what position they play.
Yes it would be idiotic providing he actually puts pen to paper on a deal, contracts are not what they used to be to players, these days the power is all in the hands of they player and if they want to leave a club then they will.
The board have the final say over at the Gooners and their perspective is a fiscal one, just like with Nasri last year.
I am not specifically pointing at you but his name is brought up in every thread when it seems we are signing someone. Hazard, lucas and now rvp..
Hope we don't waste 30m on getting Van Persie if it hinders us getting another Midfielder. We really don't need Van Persie.
Wenger calls the shots on the playing side. The issue with Nasri was that he was just going to go through the motions, it remains to be seen with RvP.
Why not? We paid £30m for a player we have had little benefit from, and never really needed. We also seem more than happy to continue paying him £5m a year for not being involved.
We should probably pay you £15m up front and maybe another £5m based on appearances. Considering your options are keep a player who now has a strained relationship with the club for one more year, and then lose him for nothing. Or sell him for almost 10 times what you paid for him, after 8 good years of service, and move on.
We spent £30M for Berbaflop.
Exactly, you won't be doing that again in a hurry and RvP is two years older and costs twice as much in wages.
What makes you think buying RVP or not, will affect us getting a midfielder?
Secondly, what midfielders have we shown any serious interest in, to make you believe we actually have any intention whatsoever of signing one?
I hope not. It's too much of a risk IMO.
And now with the players Arsenal are buying there's a decent case for him staying. One more centre back and the team could go up a level.
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