Do you actually believe what is written in that article?
Robin van Persie
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Do you actually believe what is written in that article?
I would love that to be the case.
An injured van Persie has still scored more than his team-mates
The guy is 29 in a few weeks - he hasn't been close to winning a medal for God knows how long. I understand that he wants to leave. He hasn't got time to participate in another of Wengers big projects if he wants to get his hand of a trophy.
Do you deny that he is a muppet? He said towards the end of the season he needed to strengthen the squad.
An injured anyone wouldn't score any goals.
If he actually stayed fit all these years, Arsenal would have won God knows how many trophies.
There is delusion and then there's stupidity.
Van Persie has largely been fit over the past two seasons. Arsenal still've won shit.
I'm just now waiting for the headline "City seal RVP deal".
Also, i see no reason why we should pay in excess of £20m for an injury prone 29 year old.
Also, i see no reason why we should pay in excess of £20m for an injury prone 29 year old.
Maybe a Carling Cup or 2.
You lot havent been even close to a PL title for the past 5-6 years.
Im not just saying this to annoy you, but Ive not considered Arsenal real title rivals in that time.
That's not what I asked you. I asked if you believed the article.
Now every manager on the planet will say he needs to strengthen in the summer.
I am not saying Bobby Manc is not liable to blow a fuse as he is a passionate man. But do you really think he has threatened to walk if they don't blow everyone out the water? Do you really think City's owners would accept threats like that? Especially with Pep Guardiola sat there doing nothing.
This story has a familiar ring to it.
1) City want player and so do other clubs
2) City look like early favourites
3) United enter running
4) Player favours United because of history, tradition etc etc etc
5) Unrest at City. United look to be taking the lead
6) Khaldoon steps in to personally resolve any issues
7) City apparently blow everyone out the water with obligatory 25 million fee and £250000 a week wages
8) Media in uproar as player is a mercenary who has put money before his career
9) Platini has his say and condemns City, saying measures will be taken to stop this evil
10) Player pictured with City top saying he wants to win trophies
11) Fergie says there is no value in the market
12) Harry says triffic, he wanted player to do kick ups in back garden but City blew him out the water.
I am easy about Van Persie. Yes I would like him and if we get him then we would have the best 4 strikers in the premier league. If we don't get him then we will still have the best 4 strikers in the Premier League.
There is bitterness and there is being illogic.
One and half season of fitness, compared to 5 and half years of absence.
Lot can be achieved in 5 years compared to 2.
Yeah, because a lack of goals has been Arsenals problem, not their shit defense.
Modern football need cohesion in all three department.
if one suffer, everything else does; but go on put on some more meaningless smileys.
After Adebayor, Last season was the first time, someone scored 20plus goals for us in a season.
Ofcourse we needed a goalscorer before as well, despite the leaky defence.
Why only Carling cup or two.
A player who is capable of scoring that many when not injured, surely can win us lot more than just Carling cup or two.
The season 2007-08 when Eduardo was injured, We fell short by 3-4points.
The season when the entire responsibility of scoring goals was on Cesc(19goals, 19assist season).
We needed someone to take the burden off Cesc, as we competed for a long time till Cesc started getting injured.
Ok Captain Hindsight, whatever you say. It's not like Arsenal always capitulate and bottle the league in every which way possible or anything.
Their past problems were not because they didn't have a fit RVP.
Their past problems were not because they didn't have a fit RVP.
Typical Arsenal fans. Injuries are the only thing that've stopped them from winning more trophies and probably world domination.
Also why would I being bitter towards Arsenal?
Even Pompey has won more in the last five years.
Also why would I being bitter towards Arsenal?
Even Pompey has won more in the last five years.
Why not?
Is he not a part of the squad?
Bottling the league included not scoring in matches.
Oh look there!
Do you see them,,..,.,.Yeah them.
Yeah, those are United fans moaning about Vidic's injury and attribute it to losing the league.
No No...not Typical...Just retarded of them.
No you idiot, it was our bottling of eight points that cost us the league. It's okay though now we know why Arsenal have got trophy less over the last 4-5 years, that's because RVP was injured who incidentally didn't won Arsenal anything when he was un-injured for the majority of last two seasons.
Also are you thirteen?
You seem to type like one.
We lost the league on goal difference, and Vidic was out for 6 months and is arguably the worlds best defender. What do you expect? I don't agree with it, we simply did 'an Arsenal' and bottled it in the end, that's why we lost.
RVP has always been good but never shown himself to be one of the worlds very best strikers until the latter end of last season. If anything, you losing the league has had more to do with Fabregas constantly pulling his hamstring.
The difference between Arsenal and Utd is that we actually have depth in our squad, always have. That's why we still won the league in 10/11 with our best player absent for the first 5 months of the season, because we had Berbatov there to hit 21 goals in his absence.
RVP has always been good but never shown himself to be one of the worlds very best strikers until the latter end of last season. If anything, you losing the league has had more to do with Fabregas constantly pulling his hamstring.
The difference between Arsenal and Utd is that we actually have depth in our squad, always have. That's why we still won the league in 10/11 with our best player absent for the first 5 months of the season, because we had Berbatov there to hit 21 goals in his absence.
Tell that to them United fans, will you?
Robin was always a quality striker.
I am sorry but Arsenal have had squad depth in attacking position but that goes for a toss, when Robin is written off at the very beginning.
For eg: in 2007-08 season, we had Adebayor, Eduardo, Robin, Bendtner
Robin fecked up and the squad depth pulled us through the season till Eduardo got injured.
Oh please, til Eduardo got injured? You bottled the league, simple as that. You can't see the irony of laughing that our fans complain about Vidic's injury costing us the league and now you're claiming that Eduardo's cost it for you?
I wasn't laughing.
i was stating that losing a quality player does feck up chances of winning something.
bottling of league is not a seperate unrelated event. It is an outcome related to factors like that of losing players through suspension, form, or injury.
i was stating that losing a quality player does feck up chances of winning something.
bottling of league is not a seperate unrelated event. It is an outcome related to factors like that of losing players through suspension, form, or injury.
Not sure if serious??
Yeah, you may well have won something, but "God knows how many trophies" sounds ridiculous.
You cant have it both ways. The whole point of squad depth is that you arent reliant on a player. So if you had squad depth, you wouldnt miss RVP when he is not there - and you cant blame a lack of goals on him. Or, on the other hand, you relied on him, ergo you lack depth, ergo your failures are down to Wenger's transfer policies or abilities or both.
But who cares, anyway? You havent won anything, the reasons dont matter to us on here overly. And you arent going to win anything any time soon either. I see nothing on the horizon for Arsenal except an ongoing, uphill battle to stay in the top 4, which you are bound to lose sooner or later.
I think you're quite deluded if you think that RVP's absence attributes to you not winning 'god knows how many trophies' really. You've had a poor defense, bad captains, players constantly leaving, and continuous amounts of bottling. To think that a single player is the difference between you winning nothing in the last 5 to 6 years or winning multiple trophies is absolutely ridiculous.
no you wouldn't. You couldn't even beat Birmingham in the Carling Cup final.
Ha ha. That was such a great day.
Isn't part of football to have players who can step up when players get injured ? Evans did it for United last season - Berbatov and Nani did it the season before when Rooney wanted out and played like shit before christmas.
Arsenal in the last 5-6-7 years simply haven't had these characters who can do that
Arsenal in the last 5-6-7 years simply haven't had these characters who can do that
If Robin had stayed fit or Eduardo was not injured, we would have won 2007-08 season.
Having won a league title, we would have not lost player making excuse of winning things.(Actually we would have lost them as City/Chelsea would still offer them more money)
To think a player who is capable of scoring 35goals in a season was the difference between not winning something & winning something in 5years; is not ridiculous at all.
Great example. One where Robin went off injured.
No you wouldn't have. You still would've bottled it.
But hey, keep dreaming about what could have been. Moral victories are great! Especially as you won't be winning anything in the next 5 years either.
Your defense cost you that game, nothing to do with him. You bottled it big time, there was more than enough quality on that pitch to beat a team like Birmingham regardless of RVP's injury, and you still fecked up. You ALWAYS feck up.
But hey, keep dreaming about what could have been. Moral victories are great! Especially as you won't be winning anything in the next 5 years either.
Your defense cost you that game, nothing to do with him. You bottled it big time, there was more than enough quality on that pitch to beat a team like Birmingham regardless of RVP's injury, and you still fecked up. You ALWAYS feck up.
We did have them and they did their job.
But you expect the absentees to absent for few months or so.
Rooney came back to form after Christmas.
We are here talking about stepping up for whole season, berbatov didn't do that, he wasn't played in second half of the season.
Its quite tragic really to think of yourselves as so reliant on a single player that not being able to beat Birmingham is justifiable on the basis that he wasnt there. How shit do you think the rest of your squad is, exactly? And given he is off, where does that leave you now?
As much as star players are important in winning things so too is a quality experienced squad. Arsenals dismal record in recent seasons is as much to do with Wenger rushing to clear out ever bit of experience they had as quickly as possible as its to do with RVP being injured.
More to do with having our players creamed off by richer clubs.
I didn't say that.
I was just pointing at the fact that that game typified Robin's career with us.
Missing when it mattered.
He has not served us in the way it should have been.
As a squad, Arsenal did what it can but if Robin had been fit, it would have had made things lot easier.
It is not being reliant on a single player, it is about one player of massive quality to utilise other players with massive quality i.e Cesc and co.
It is about 'Completing the Squad'.
You lot would have won jack shit if Roney were to be injured all the time, since Ronaldo's departure.
It can be said That Ferguson wouldn't have been as loyal to Rooney as Wenger was with Robin and would have bought in a replacement.
And looking at how disrespectful Robin has been, i wish we did do that and bought in a reliable striker who would be available to assist the team.
Show me a team that cannot make similar claims. You cream your players off poorer clubs, and other richer clubs cream you. Its a food chain.
Absolute ballbag.
Absolutely.
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