Its a good job we arent signing Lucas then isnt it?
Robin van Persie
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Its a good job we arent signing Lucas then isnt it?
Or Van Persie in fairness.
If Rooney stays fit - we will do nicely. If Rooney gets injured we need another striker - there is close to zero chance of us winning the league with Welbeck and Hernandez as strikers. Both are highly talented but both are still pretty far from being up there with the best. Hernandez' all-round play is not good enough - and Welbeck doesn't score enough goals yet.
I still believe Welbeck will be an excellent player - but he is not a Rooney or van Persie yet.
I still believe Welbeck will be an excellent player - but he is not a Rooney or van Persie yet.
Not really, if you had knowledge of Paul Lake then who am I to argue with you? If your a manc and interested in football then I would think that you would of knew about the hype surrounding Lake
Paul Scholes was rated a better prospect at 21 than Danny Wellbeck is now. It is arguable that Wellbeck is no better than Sturridge. Both are good young players buy your over hyping Wellbeck into something he is not. Scholes had a similar goal scoring and appearance record to which Wellbeck has for united at the same age. Yet Scholes did not play all them games up front and had to get into a far, far, far better United team
If you think that buying Van Persie will not improve United then fair enough. I know you want Wellbeck to progress. But you came up short last year with Wellbeck in your team. You think he will improve and rightly so. He is young and he is a good player. But the likes of Aguero and Balotelli and also only young, both are better than Wellbeck and both are only going to get better. Plus City have Tevez and Dzeko as well.
I am really not sure why you can't see that Van Persie will improve you no end. IMO Wellbeck will still get enough opportunities and if he is as good as you think then he will welcome the challenge and it will only make him a better player, thus benefiting United.
There's an aspect that he can learn off Van Persie anyway. It's always good to have diverse teachers facing many different hardships and problems to solve.
RvP will improve our team I agree, but not like spiked knuckles for your big haymaker right hands to now be lethal. More like untying the left arm allowing you to punch with left and right.
Van Persie would drastically improve every team in the world.
I am not sure if Van Persie has got over his injury problems. Last season was his most appearances in a season for Arsenal.
Not sure I agree with you entirely. Scholes was an excellent prospect - but Welbeck is right up there with him. And your argument about Scholes getting into a far better team - nah I don't agree with you. Imo - the team was at best no stronger than today, however the opposition was a lot harder.
Allegedly he wants 10 mil per year.
Good luck Robin .
Good luck Robin .
He'll get that.
Football forums would be boring places if we agreed with each other entirely :-)
would he even get into the ***alona first xi with villa fit?
Probably, right now he's a better forward than Villa although I'm not sure he'd suit them as he doesn't have that much pace and his quality out wide is slightly questionable and Messi has to play centrally now.
We could probably go that high, I don't think we will though. From City he'll have no trouble, Milan and Juventus could probably go that high if they wanted too. Zlatan was on €10m a year apparently.
Zlatans wages were one of the main factors for his departure as far as I am aware, so I doubt Milan will be able to afford him as they seem to be on a mission to reduce their wage bill.
I think there are around a handful of clubs that could offer him such a high wage apart from us, such as: (off the top of my head)
Man City
Chelsea
Barcelona
Madrid
PSG
Malaga
Not sure about the Italian clubs. Realistically, it appears that there are only around 3 clubs that are likely to sign Van Persie, I doubt Barcelona or Madrid are interested as they don't exactly need him but then again, neither do we really.
I think so.
He was brilliant for Arsenal last year - not only the number of goals he scored, but the quality of them. Carried them all season.
Has his injury problems and whether he represents a good buy is questionable but heis quality isn't.
In a word, yes.
I dont think he would.
Good striker yes, but he doesnt have the mobility / work ethic required for the barcelona front line.
He certainly would want to play down the middle as the main striker, but i dont see barcelona changing there shape / moving messi from the fake 10
Are you sure about that? RVP said himself he used to prefer playing on the left, it was only after Henry left that Wenger started playing him through the middle, and he had to convince him to do so.
Villa broke his leg and missed the entirety of last season, it's not unrealistic to think RVP would start ahead of him.
His movement is one of his best qualities, i may be wrong but i think i saw a stat saying he covered more ground than any other player in the Premiership last season.
"Robin van Persie is the highest-ranked player in the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index.
On top of his 30 league goals this season, the Dutchman has 16 assistsand has covered a staggering 217.56 miles – making him the second hardest working player in the league."
IF we sign Lucas, RVP will be breaking his back to try and sign for us
Well i will be damned... i didnt expect that to be fair.
When watching him on tv he never seems that lively, i suppose his movement off the ball finding space is where the magic happens.
So are we getting him or what?
SAF seems to have become a full scale muppet.
Why can't we say Barcelona?
Edit: oh we can.
Edit: oh we can.
Get him Fergie. Get him.
Despite the Anderson/Hargreaves precedent, I'm not sure that would improve his chances.
He did start 37 of the 38 games, and came on in the other one to be fair. The vast majority of players wouldn't have done the same.
By the same token one can argue he's not injury prone anymore.
A bit soon to tell though. Nevertheless, playing 38 of 38 matches is a very nice stat.
because we are signing quality young players, against a backbone of experience and winners. Why wouldn't RVP want a peice of that action?
(unless he is a money grabber, but i dont get that impression from him)
Mods - Could we perhaps have a poll on this? Questions along the lines of: are people in favour, is it conditional on only a certain amount being spent.
I've not been following this thread in detail you understand, but instinctively i find the idea that we are serious in efforts to sign Van Persie a bit odd. Unexpected at the vert least.
The media coverage on the other hand implies that it is a no brainer, that even if risky serves the need of "sending out a message" to our rivals. Would that be the one where we transfer policy is focusing on the wrong part of the pitch?
I've not been following this thread in detail you understand, but instinctively i find the idea that we are serious in efforts to sign Van Persie a bit odd. Unexpected at the vert least.
The media coverage on the other hand implies that it is a no brainer, that even if risky serves the need of "sending out a message" to our rivals. Would that be the one where we transfer policy is focusing on the wrong part of the pitch?
Nice....it's good to see someone's confident.I hope he does choose to come to us. I know he does seem injury prone but he wouldn't be playing every match. We've three other strikers to accomodate.
Plus, he'd get more resting time with us because we actually have the depth to rotate.
What I like about this thread is how almost half the posters are against him because we have Hernandez and Welbeck breaking through. Another section are against RVP signing because he has had long injury spells
A sensible person would realise they balance each other out.
A sensible person would realise they balance each other out.
I hope he does choose to come to us. I know he does seem injury prone but he wouldn't be playing every match. We've three other strikers to accomodate.
And Kagawa.
No...
I don't think anyone would sign him and pay him near £200,000 a week if they expected him to be injured all the time. The people that want to sign him, want him to be fit and play.
Why would anyone want to spend that much money signing him, only to hope he would get injured so that Welbeck could get some games? It's completely daft.
Shouldn't imagine anyone at all hopes he gets injured so that Welbeck can play.
Most managers rotate their strikers as a matter of good policy......keeps them all as fit and fresh as possible. Necessary wouldn't you say, especially if we have to play 2 or 3 matches a week.
Another dodgy attempt at humour bites the dust. What I meant was that we signed Hargreaves and Anderson when they were physically crocked. But despite that, Van Persie breaking his back wouldn't help his cause.........
sigh...
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