Robin van Persie

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It's people who can't accept that United aren't in the shit anywhere near as much as they think. Pride probably has a lot to do it, after banging on the best part of a decade about how we haven't got a pot to piss in, when our transfer policy really hasn't deviated much post-Glazers. Yes, we've lost money and yes, the debt isn't a good thing, but we're such a financial behemoth that we can pretty comfortably compete. Does that mean we're going to hand out quarter of a million a week contracts willy-nilly? No, but then we were never going to anyway. We're run as a business and don't have the underwriter of a sheikh who wants to catch up in a few years what we've developed over the last 40.

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It's people who can't accept that United aren't in the shit anywhere near as much as they think. Pride probably has a lot to do it, after banging on the best part of a decade about how we haven't got a pot to piss in, when our transfer policy really hasn't deviated much post-Glazers. Yes, we've lost money and yes, the debt isn't a good thing, but we're such a financial behemoth that we can pretty comfortably compete. Does that mean we're going to hand out quarter of a million a week contracts willy-nilly? No, but then we were never going to anyway. We're run as a business and don't have the underwriter of a sheikh who wants to catch up in a few years what we've developed over the last 40.

Exactly. Whichever way we look at it, we are not going to spend the money if it goes against our business model, i'm comfortable with that. But if we have got the money and SAF will be allowed to spend it, why are all our fans moaning they would not spending X amount on a player. When SAF hasn't in the past and the player becomes good, they all moan why we never spent the money ie david silva & torres.
 
This feels like it is going to be a rather strange, yet exciting transfer window.

Yes, I may be slightly in muppet mode right now, but I actually think that there is a good chance we can land RVP. Not that we really need him mind, but he has the class to make the difference in the important games.

I think anything up to around £18 million is a good deal for us.
 
It all depends on RVP himself. If he has a clear preference then he needs to kick up a fuss and work with that club to engineer a move for himself. If he doesn't really have a clear preference, he can just wait and see who coughs up the most money for him and join City.
 
Without a doubt he would increase our chances of winning titles next season. Can anyone argue with that?

I have gone from no chance in hell this will ever happen to checking this thread and even Twatter on a regular basis.

But I still don't think it can happen. If it does it would be one of our most exciting transfers in the Fergie era.
 
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...s-to-resist-robin-van-persie-interest?cc=5901

Arsene Wenger insists he wants to keep Robin van Persie at Arsenal as interest in the striker increases.

Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed to MUTV on Friday that Manchester United have made a bid for Van Persie, while it is widely reported that Manchester City and Juventus have also made concrete offers.

However, it is clear that none of the offers has met with the Gunners' approval and Wenger remains hopeful that the Netherlands international will remain at the Emirates.

"For me, Van Persie is one of the best strikers in the world, if not the best, and my desire is to keep him at the club," he told Arsenal Player. "As for the rest, I will do what is in the best interests of Arsenal Football Club. That, at the moment, is where we are. There is not a lot more to say than that."

Wenger has already indicated that he is eager to avoid a repeat of last season's transfer business, when the late sales of Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri left preparations for the new season in disarray, but he is confident that Van Persie would maintain a professional approach should he see out the final year of his contract at Arsenal.

"Robin was an exceptional leader last year, but we know how much we had to fight to come third because we missed out the start of the season," he said. "After seven games we had lost four and we have learned that for us it is vital for us to focus on the start of the season rather than on any transfers.

"If the transfers happen, they happen. As long as you are at the club you give your best for the club and that is the only pride you can have as a football player and as a manager.

"As long as you are somewhere you give your best every day for that club. If it changes, it changes. I am convinced that Robin is like that - he is completely focused every day on his job. He loves football, he loves the game and as long as he is here he will do that."
 
No surprise, saying he is willing to keep him will encourage the other sides to up their bid. Arse cannot show they are scared of losing him for free in one year.
 
No surprise, saying he is willing to keep him will encourage the other sides to up their bid. Arse cannot show they are scared of losing him for free in one year.

Yep, its the stance that people would expect Arsenal to take to try get a higher bid, however if the reports are true about what they want then they are way overestimating his current value in the market, I reckon £15 million would be quite good for him from an Arsenal perspective, they may get £18 million tops or a club with a sugar daddy will come in and pay well over what he is worth blowing all other bids out of the water.
 
Yep, its the stance that people would expect Arsenal to take to try get a higher bid, however if the reports are true about what they want then they are way overestimating his current value in the market, I reckon £15 million would be quite good for him from an Arsenal perspective, they may get £18 million tops or a club with a sugar daddy will come in and pay well over what he is worth blowing all other bids out of the water.

I don't know, 15m for arguably the best striker in the league, playing at his peak, is quite a steal in today's market.

Wasn't Nasri's fee reported to be around 20m?
 
This Suarez stuff is interesting. If they do lose him could see them going for RVP.

The Scousers have always found it hard to resist Robin Vans.

Doesnt matter. Pool wont even be in the running as far as RVPs concerned.
 
I don't know, 15m for arguably the best striker in the league, playing at his peak, is quite a steal in today's market.

Wasn't Nasri's fee reported to be around 20m?

I am concerned about his injury track record.

Apart from that I agree with you. 15m for RVP are a steal. Its around double we've paid for Bebe.
 
I don't know, 15m for arguably the best striker in the league, playing at his peak, is quite a steal in today's market.

Wasn't Nasri's fee reported to be around 20m?

However we do need to keep in mind his age and his recent injury prone spells, he is a fantastic striker and in wonderful form but he may become more injury prone over the upcoming years its hard to tell. They could get £20 million at a push and they may well do, I think anything over £20 million is on the pricy side for him.
 
Amusing how the consensus adjusts so rapidly in football. Just a month ago, before any bids were registered, people expected Van Persie to cost up to £30M!
 
Fergie saying Arsenal made it public when we didn't want too, okay. So why haven't we came out to confirm the Lucas bid when Sao Paulo made public?
 
Clichy, Nasri, Toure... do Arsenal really want to lose another one of their players to City?

Not that they'd have any greater desire to sell him to us... but I'm sure there's a point in there somewhere, that point being, they'll sell him to Juventus.
 
Fergie saying Arsenal made it public when we didn't want too, okay. So why haven't we came out to confirm the Lucas bid when Sao Paulo made public?

we arent interested in lucas?
 
MUTV were perhaps given the green light to ask the question about RVP? Maybe they didn't ask about Lucas. It's odd if and why they were given the green light ... or maybe an overexuberant MUTV interviewer asked and Fergie couldn't get shitty as it's our own station.
 
Yeah like Sir Alex would be afraid of speaking his mind on MUTV. Was it even live?

Either he spoke about it because he wants RVP to know how legit our interest is (flash back to a year ago and Evra being the one flirting with Nasri and all Nasri's comments about wondering if we were serious about him) or it just slipped out
 
MUTV were perhaps given the green light to ask the question about RVP? Maybe they didn't ask about Lucas. It's odd if and why they were given the green light ... or maybe an overexuberant MUTV interviewer asked and Fergie couldn't get shitty as it's our own station.

Another possible reason is to signal our interest to Van Persie. Which would mean we haven't been in contact with him. Which doesn't bode well for our chances.

I prefer your explanation.
 
Wouldn't go as far as that.But if we were serious about getting him , why put in a bid lower than our competitors.Unless RVP as decided to join us.

Only the Daily Mail has suggested we put in a lower bid than City and Juve. Guardian, Sky, BBC et al were leading with "United bid for RVP rejected" with the figure varying between 12.5M and 15M.
 
MUTV were perhaps given the green light to ask the question about RVP? Maybe they didn't ask about Lucas. It's odd if and why they were given the green light ... or maybe an overexuberant MUTV interviewer asked and Fergie couldn't get shitty as it's our own station.

I'm not in England so I don't know what's going on, but even though there has been plenty of talk here, partly based on Twitter and newspapers in Brazi, I'd guess the Lucas story is on a much smaller scale in England than the top scorer in the Premier League.
 
Another possible reason is to signal our interest to Van Persie. Which would mean we haven't been in contact with him. Which doesn't bode well for our chances.

I prefer your explanation.

Trust me, they've been in contact alright. RVP knows what he will get from each club wages wise.
His advisers favour a move to united and think his style would be better suited to us.
 
Trust me, they've been in contact alright. RVP knows what he will get from each club wages wise.
His advisers favour a move to united and think his style would be better suited to us.

Surely his advisors would favour the club willing to pay the most money to their client? Whether that is City or United I would have no idea really but I could hazard a guess.

If his advisers were giving him advice in regards to his style then surely they would advise him to stay at Arsenal where he is the main man, which is something I doubt he would be at either City or United.
 
Surely his advisors would favour the club willing to pay the most money to their client? Whether that is City or United I would have no idea really but I could hazard a guess.

If his advisers were giving him advice in regards to his style then surely they would advise him to stay at Arsenal where he is the main man, which is something I doubt he would be at either City or United.

How are Citehs FFP calculations going? Doing a lot of maths there? Crossing out some expenses yeah? Selling some players to make rooms for new ones? No? Ah Im sure they know what they are doing.
 
Surely his advisors would favour the club willing to pay the most money to their client? Whether that is City or United I would have no idea really but I could hazard a guess.

If his advisers were giving him advice in regards to his style then surely they would advise him to stay at Arsenal where he is the main man, which is something I doubt he would be at either City or United.

Not necessarily. Not all agents are driven purely by money, though it's understandable people think they are.
Re the second point, if he wants to go, he wants to go, they can't stop that and it's not like he wants to go for no reason.
His stock is high, good options and he has understandable reasons for wanting to leave.
As I say, that's apparently their take on the matter, doesn't mean it's going to pan out that way or anything.
 
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