Because he's arguably the best striker in world football right now?
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Because he's arguably the best striker in world football right now?
That's a bit of a push to be honest. He had the form of his career last season though.
Really?
Is it? He's scored 59 goals in two seasons for Arsenal, I really can't think of anyone better. You could argue for Zlatan but Van Persie has still shaded it, I think.
True. It's all a bit weird.
Still, the only clubs I could see going for Nani are in Italy and I doubt he'd move there. I'm confident he'll sign the new contract, him and Mendes are just playing hard ball.
"It is understood that United's bid is way short and is not even near the figure of £15m because they will be reluctant to pay big money for a player who turns 29 in August and has a patchy injury record."
From the Mirror
From the Mirror
Yep that sounds like us.
Ronaldo score 113 goals in all competitions in the previous two seasons.
How can they possibly know how much our bid was?
He's not a striker.
In terms Welbeck and Hernandez's development.
Is this another of our 'See...we do bid for the top players....we aren't really skint' gestures?
He was often the furthest player up the pitch for us and is for Madrid too. He's a fake 7 more than he was a fake 9.
Don’t waste your time chaps. This will not happen. Surely we must realise that Arse will not sell to us. And why should they?
They will either accept a silly deal from City or get him to move to Italy or Spain for a lower price than we may offer.
They will either accept a silly deal from City or get him to move to Italy or Spain for a lower price than we may offer.
Is Ferguson trolling Wenger? We can't have bid less than £10M for RVP surely? 
We can still hope, Randall
Do you want to have more chance of winning or have those two play every match? Welbeck will be our 3rd striker and will get plenty of games if RVP does indeed come, and Hernandez to me hasn't shown enough to deserve to play week in and week out.
He's worth 20 million, I suspect RVP could play well into his 30's giving us 4-5 years.
*Inserts 'I want to believe' pic*
Sky Sports saying Arsenal's valuation is £30m Maybe if he had 3 or 4 years of his contract left, but not now.
Maybe if he had 3 or 4 years of his contract left, but not now.It was obvious to everyone with half a brain cell he wasn't counting Messi or Ronaldo.
Sky Sports saying Arsenal's valuation is £30m
He's going to City then!
Sky Sports saying Arsenal's valuation is £30m
We paid 18m for Young, City paid 24m for Nasri. Sounds about right to me.
Neither of those are 29 this autumn.
Neither are half as good as RVP either.
Both of whom are considerably younger than RVP
Young is less than 2 years younger and not remotely as good as him, and we bought him from a club with a much lesser stature than Arsenal.
Next?
Neither are those are anywhere near as good as RVP. And if he can play to a high level for the next 6 years, which he could easily do given the reliance on his technical ability over his physicality, it'll be well, well worth it. Zidane was 29 and he went for 75 million euros! I'm not sure how much that is/was in pounds, neither do I claim that Van Persie is as good, but no one brings up the topic of Madrid's transfer fee for him anymore. RVP could be the same, 30 million or not.
Very different situations.
Young and Nasri are 27 and 25 respectively, with Van Persie at 29. He also has a known history of injuries, and there will certainly be question marks over his fitness. There's no way he is going to be sold for 30m, unless it's to City who wouldn't care about the figure and can shoulder that risk. Not to mention you have a player who is desperate to leave, has just pulled out of the Arsenal tour to force his move, and has just 11 months on his contract remaining.
I don't think he will either, I was using them as comparisons though. And both of them were bought at a considerably higher fee than they are worth.
Having a year left on the contract means feck all when there's a bidding war for the player.
Is there a bidding war?
Us, City and Juve all placed bids.
Bidding war = multiple clubs making bids and the price going higher and higher as a result. That will happen here.
We're the only club to've made a bid. Don't believe what Arsenal have leaked.. they just want a bidding war and us to up our own bid.
Basically, there's no bidding war at the moment.
Not necessarily, if a player with one year on his contract states a desire to play for a specific club then his club is likely to accept a lower bid over a higher one as they will not want the player to run his contract down. If RVP says that he will play for any team of the three then yes it could happen.
I'm not sure there is a bidding war.
We've placed a bid for £15m, and that's been rejected. I'm sure his situation, and the length of his contract will come into play with our limits, and already has done with the bid we've tabled so far. Yes, he could still go for something like the suggested figure, but I doubt it will be anyone bar City going for him at that evaluation. He's not worth 30 million in his current situation, which is becoming increasingly desperate, and I don't think Arsenal can afford to play it as if he is.
We've placed a bid for £15m, and that's been rejected. I'm sure his situation, and the length of his contract will come into play with our limits, and already has done with the bid we've tabled so far. Yes, he could still go for something like the suggested figure, but I doubt it will be anyone bar City going for him at that evaluation. He's not worth 30 million in his current situation, which is becoming increasingly desperate, and I don't think Arsenal can afford to play it as if he is.
This is crazy. I can't believe we are bidding for van Persie and Lucas. No money/value my arse, Fergie just doesn't value central midfielders... wingers and strikers is where it's at for him.
It may not be just a case of choosing to sell Nani, if we cannot agree terms with him, we may be forced to sell. We cannot be looking at all these different players for the same positions to keep them all surely.
However nonsensical it may appear to us, there must be some reason why we are chasing/chased the likes of Hazard, Nasri, Kagawa, Gaitan, Lucas etc, when we already have Nani, Welbeck, Valencia and Young for similar roles.
We surely cannot accomodate them all. But the fact we keep on being linked with this type of player may indicate either someone is leaving, or SAF is not as satisfied with what we already have, as many of us would have thought.
For what it's worth, if arsenal want 20 million and we've genuinely offered 15, then we should sell Berba for 5-6 million and use that to buy a much better and similarly aged player.
Before we had park / giggs / ronaldo and nani as wingers, but now 3 of those have gone. Now we have nani, valencia, young and ... insert 1 more.
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