Robin van Persie

Status
Not open for further replies.
KingMinger22 said:
RVP is one of, if not the, best players in the league.

Everyone on here would shit there pants of we signed him.


That said, there is a defensive cynicism to stories that link us with big signings borne out of recent disappointments.
Click to expand...

honestly, i'm not sure. I think there would be lotta irate lads who would be banging on about the fee and wages not being put to use to a CM(s)

I think the last place wenger would sell to would be us. he'd much rather sell another to city than to fergus.
 
He'd be injured leaving Gills office with a contract signed.

Really just not interested.
 
VoetbalWizard said:
honestly, i'm not sure. I think there would be lotta irate lads who would be banging on about the fee and wages not being put to use to a CM(s)

I think the last place wenger would sell to would be us. he'd much rather sell another to city than to fergus.
Click to expand...

It's all up to the player though as always.

I really feel like we offer his best option for what he wants - footballing motivations.

We can comfortably fit him on the wage bill at around £150k pw if Berba's £110k is dropped.

Either way, I really think Fergie is in for him. Why not? Fergie has probably less time left in the profession than RVP so he could prove a master stroke in giving the CL another good shot.

We obviously need a CM also but who knows what's happening there.
 
He's dividing opinion in here more than Berba ever did and he's not ever signed! :lol:
 
The Neviller said:
I'm not having a go, just pointing out that you came across as knowing for a fact Kagawa would be used behind a front man and so when he played we'd only play with one striker.
Click to expand...

That and a horrible bell-end.

I have a sneaky hunch that he's going to play Kagawa wide/inside left as a Silva style creative AM with Welbeck up front and Nani on the right. Rooney will play free role at the top of two central midfielders. Heard it (laughed at it) here first.

RvP for me on paper would be a stellar signing. Just fitting him into the team and shuffling our deck presents a dilemma. Fergies got stones the size of the henge so he'll work it out if we do sign him.
 
ghaliboy said:
That and a horrible bell-end.

I have a sneaky hunch that he's going to play Kagawa wide/inside left as a Silva style creative AM with Welbeck up front and Nani on the right. Rooney will play free role at the top of two central midfielders. Heard it (laughed at it) here first.

RvP for me on paper would be a stellar signing. Just fitting him into the team and shuffling our deck presents a dilemma. Fergies got stones the size of the henge so he'll work it out if we do sign him.
Click to expand...

cathy must have a massive mouth :eek:

fergie has an eye for a striker so oddly this feels like it might be 'ON' even with city in the mix. I've always maintained that I cannot see RvP at city in lazer blue. Mind you, I thought for the longest time he would stay at arsenal so I was quite surprised with his declaration to leave.

I would be interested to also see us playing RvP, Rooney, Kagawa in milan xmas tree formation, though we would lose a bit of width however that could be lethal in europe.
 
KingMinger22 said:
RVP is one of, if not the, best players in the league.

Everyone on here would shit there pants of we signed him.


That said, there is a defensive cynicism to stories that link us with big signings borne out of recent disappointments.
Click to expand...

I get disappointed when we lose football games, not when we don't sign players we may or mau not have been after.
 
Was listening to Talksport this morning, in the paper review, Ray Stubbs (filling in for Brazil) mentioned that United are very confident of landing RVP, this wasn't in response to a paper article but from another source.
 
simonhch said:
--------------------Rooney-----------------

Nani -----------------------------------Valencia

-----------Kagawa----------Moura--------------

--------------------Carrick---------------------

Evra--------------------------------------Rafael

-------------Ferdinand-------Vidic---------------


----------------------DDG------------------------


:drool:


*Who cares about defending anyway?
**Can't remember which thread this is. Just general muppetry. Should RVP be in there somewhere? If so, drop Ferdinand and put Robin up front with Rooney.
Click to expand...

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
 
Its weird isnt it, usually a transfer of this kind we would all be going crazy for it.

But for some reason im just not all that excited by it, i would rather welbeck and hernandez be given the chance
 
I just don't see it happening to be honest... but that's based on nothing but good feeling.

However, anyone who says "we don't need him" is way off the mark in my book. How can any club "not need" one of the best strikers in the world? If (massive if) he came to our club, he would be somewhere around the joint best striker at the club (depending ony your opinion/rating of him) and so in turn improve our side massively. How can we claim to not need such improvements?

If people said "we don't need him as much as we need a midfielder" or something to that effect, then that would make sense... but to state that we don't need a player of the quality of RVP as a single statement is, to my mind, crazy.
 
Nate Dogg said:
Was listening to Talksport this morning, in the paper review, Ray Stubbs (filling in for Brazil) mentioned that United are very confident of landing RVP, this wasn't in response to a paper article but from another source.
Click to expand...

redcafe forum maybe?
 
Mainoldo said:
ARSENAL have no intention of flogging captain Robin van Persie to bitter rivals Manchester United.
comment on this story 188 comments
Related Stories

VANTASTIC ... Robin van Persie had his best campaign ever last season
Who can blame Robin van Persie

IAN WRIGHT says Dutchman will find himself in an awkward situation at training
RVP is left out of Arsenal catalogue

Follow The Sun on Twitter

Reports in Italy yesterday claimed that the Gunners had turned down an offer from United for their double Footballer of the Year, who wants out of the Emirates.

The Dutch international has told Gunners boss Arsene Wenger he wants his future sorted out before Saturday, when the squad are due to fly out to Malaysia for the club’s summer tour.

Arsenal value their top scorer from last season at £30million — a price way above what United are prepared to pay.

But Wenger is also reluctant to sell his prized asset to the club which have been his main title rivals during his 16 years in charge of the Gunners.

That would leave the door open for Manchester City, who would have no problem matching that fee and who now appear to be favourites for the Dutchman’s signature after Juventus turned their attentions elsewhere.

The Italian giants are now tracking Fiorentina forward Stevan Jovetic who would be available for a fee in the region of £23million.

The 22-year-old could be snapped up on wages of around £45,000 a week whereas Van Persie turned down £130,000 a week to stay at Arsenal.

But they'll probably sell to City again... Seriously Arsenal, your not our rivals ANYMORE>
Click to expand...

feck, I hate The Sun.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I just don't see it happening to be honest... but that's based on nothing but good feeling.

However, anyone who says "we don't need him" is way off the mark in my book. How can any club "not need" one of the best strikers in the world? If (massive if) he came to our club, he would be somewhere around the joint best striker at the club (depending ony your opinion/rating of him) and so in turn improve our side massively. How can we claim to not need such improvements?

If people said "we don't need him as much as we need a midfielder" or something to that effect, then that would make sense... but to state that we don't need a player of the quality of RVP as a single statement is, to my mind, crazy.
Click to expand...

He would certainly make us better. The difficulty is in figuring out what to do with Rooney, Van Persie, Kagawa, Welbeck, Chicharito, Valencia, Moura, Young, and Nani. A lot of very good players - only 4 places at most. It's like trying to fit 10 people and a cow into a Mini. Is it possibe Fergie would consider moving Hernandez and Young on? He can wield the knife when he feels the need, I suppose.
 
Young is definitely the weak link there but there's no way we'd sell him on after a hefty transfer fee and a pretty good first season.
 
Will Absolute said:
He would certainly make us better. The difficulty is in figuring out what to do with Rooney, Van Persie, Kagawa, Welbeck, Chicharito, Valencia, Moura, Young, and Nani. A lot of very good players - only 4 places at most. It's like trying to fit 10 people and a cow into a Mini. Is it possibe Fergie would consider moving Hernandez and Young on? He can wield the knife when he feels the need, I suppose.
Click to expand...

Well, thats a bit overly simplistic I would say... For your striking positions you have a choice from 4 (and we know Fergie likes to have 4 quality strikers) in Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez and RVP (though I hate talking about this as if he actually will come to us), then for your wings you have Young, Nani, Valencia, Welbeck and possibly Kagawa... so (4/5 options there, it depends on where he intends to play Kagawa really).

It's bloated, but with SAFs ability to rotate effectively, it's certainly not an unmanageable situation.

But as I said, he's not going to come to us anyway....
 
So BBC reporting we made a bid... still can't see it happening. I'll be honest, the development of Welbeck is VERY important, but signing RVP would be fantastic.
 
I hope we do not sign him!

Rather we go for someone younger who won't demand £250k per week
 
Arsenal have received bids for captain Robin van Persie from Manchester City, Manchester United and Juventus.

The 28-year-old Netherlands striker will not be part of the Gunners squad that travels to Asia on Saturday for a three-match pre-season tour.

It is understood that City, United and Juve have tabled offers in the region of £15m, but Arsenal are keen to hold out for a fee of £25-30m.

Van Persie's contract ends in 2013 and he says he will not sign a new deal.
Click to expand...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18922208

This feels like Nasri all over again.
 
His favourite destination would be Juve no? I guess us beeing in there is made up to make other clubs bid mor for him.
 
I'll believe it when I hear it from Gill or Fergie's mouth. It's no secret that clubs fake interest from other clubs to try and bump up the price.
 
stubie1234 said:
I hope we do not sign him!

Rather we go for someone younger who won't demand £250k per week
Click to expand...

Based on what?

He seems keen to win titles by all accounts, money appears (for once) to be secondary.

Top player, (seeingly) good attitude - just a bit concered about injuries. But at a decent price he's well worth the risk.
 
People seem remarkably sanguine around here about his injury record. It seems like people think there is a risk he will be plagued by injuries, but a good chance he wont be. To me it feels like he is close to being a nailed on certainty to be plagued by injuries, with a very small chance he will maintain the fitness he has managed for one season. Hence, even £15m - with, presumably, very generous wages - seems a poor investment.

Maybe I am being too negative about his prospects. I have always thought he was a great player. Still, dont want him.
 
Simon Adebesi said:
People seem remarkably sanguine around here about his injury record. It seems like people think there is a risk he will be plagued by injuries, but a good chance he wont be. To me it feels like he is close to being a nailed on certainty to be plagued by injuries, with a very small chance he will maintain the fitness he has managed for one season. Hence, even £15m - with, presumably, very generous wages - seems a poor investment.

Maybe I am being too negative about his prospects. I have always thought he was a great player. Still, dont want him.
Click to expand...

He's appeared in 81 games in the last two seasons... including ever single Premier League game Arsenal had last season. For the most part, it seems like his big injury problems are behind him.
 
That is what people seem to be assuming alright. I dont buy it. To me that says he has managed to stay fit for one full season. The season before he was also out for ages. And every other season to my recollection. It will happen again.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I just don't see it happening to be honest... but that's based on nothing but good feeling.

However, anyone who says "we don't need him" is way off the mark in my book. How can any club "not need" one of the best strikers in the world? If (massive if) he came to our club, he would be somewhere around the joint best striker at the club (depending ony your opinion/rating of him) and so in turn improve our side massively. How can we claim to not need such improvements?

If people said "we don't need him as much as we need a midfielder" or something to that effect, then that would make sense... but to state that we don't need a player of the quality of RVP as a single statement is, to my mind, crazy.
Click to expand...

Good post. I'll admit my instinct is that he's not the missing piece, but I don't disagree with your point that he'd improve us. I also wouldn't be too concerned about the amount of strikers, as Berba looks set to leave and Chica I think is happy being used for impact rather than a regular starter. so having a main three of Rooney, RvP and Welbeck would certainly strengthen us up front.

My main concerns are around the transfer fee, and also a slight worry that he won't repeat the season he's had this year.

If the rumours of £15mil or so are accurate, then brilliant, I think that would be a fantastic deal. But if it's upward of £20mil I think I would prefer to invest that money in the midfield where the need is greater in my opinion.
 
I guess it's all about blowing our resources on striker rather than investing in CM. If (and that's the biggest if ever) rumours are true that we're looking at Sahin and Van Persie and somehow manage to bring both in I guess the caf would explode. CM signing - done, and a fantastic player upfront added as well. It's not going to happen though, so reservations towards signing RVP are totally understandable.
 
/\ And yes, I also agree with AN in the sense that he is a great player and would improve us, given he would be one of the best players on our books. But he would also be strengthening us in a position where we are already strong. Despite the fact that we have areas of the pitch where we are considerably weaker. But what do I know? SAF judged that we needed a new winger last summer, and similar arguments applied there. Maybe if we just keep on signing great forwards our midfield problems will just magically resolve themselves. Or maybe having RVP in the team will magically turn Jones into Busquets.
 
Yeah, I don't disagree we need to fill other positions more then we need another striker... however, at the same time, there's no way I'm turning my nose up at the idea of RVP being part of our squad!

Your concerns about his injury record are of course with merit... I do think he's turned a corner in that regard though, but I don't exactly have any medical data to back that up with!
 
Cina said:
Young is definitely the weak link there but there's no way we'd sell him on after a hefty transfer fee and a pretty good first season.
Click to expand...

He's a good squad player for the premier league IMO. A very good one.


We have shit tons of good players but we can't miss out on a truly class player like RVP if he becomes available.

All four strikers would get plenty of time and playing with a beast like RVP is only going to help them. It's what players always say.

Him and Rooney would be the best in Europe.

I can't see why City would want him when they could have Tevez and Aguero running rampant if they keep them, with Balotelli and Dzeko in reserve. That truly is too many accomplished players to juggle if you add RVP.
 
Bleh... as always in these situations, he'll go to City... because they're the champions and they'll throw a shit load of money at him.

If Arsene just ignored his youth policy for a minute and had a think... he would try and get Berba off us in some sort of deal, he'd be a great addition for Arsenal in my opinion.
 
KingMinger22 said:
I can't see why City would want him when they could have Tevez and Aguero running rampant if they keep them, with Balotelli and Dzeko in reserve. That truly is too many accomplished players to juggle if you add RVP.
Click to expand...

Because either Tevez or Dzeko will guaranteed be fecking off if they sign RVP, and still probably if they don't sign him.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I do think he's turned a corner in that regard though, but I don't exactly have any medical data to back that up with!
Click to expand...

Nor me. Nothing you can really argue about as only time will tell. Itd be a leap of faith. Ill be watching with interest now - wherever he ends up. If he is banging in goals left right and centre for someone else next season, with no hint of injuries, and Rooney is going through one of his off spells, I may have cause to think back to this thread and concede I was on the wrong side of it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.