Robin van Persie

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Getting a bit tired of the "I want to win things"-argument, tbh. What player doesn't want to win things? What I hear from RvP (and the likes) is "I want to join the biggest favorite possible, and hopefully win, but if not, then get twice the money I'm getting here at least".
 
Really? I think the opposite in regards to your first statement. Surely when you're a youngster or towards the end of the career you just want to play, so if you're at a club who is around the top and is giving you game time you stay. When you're in you're peak and you now want trophies, if your current club isn't challenging then that's the perfect time to leave.

Tell that to Powell, tell that to Smalling, tell that to Jones.

It's probably using 'leave for trophies' in a different light as it doesn't compare really to the solid (not fantastic) position that Arsenal are in as a club to mount trophy challenges.

Perhaps not the best example by my self but I still don't understand the lack of personal ambition from RvP and faith in the club. If he was at Everton or Spurs then I could totally understand it. Even Liverpool without the serious worth to mount a challenge to the top 4.

It just seems a bit odd to me is all.
 
He cost £2.75m when they bought him from Feyenoord. Amazing move.
 
He's 29 and not worth £225k a week at all, especially if City offer him more than a 3 year deal. They will get screwed obviously, but they have so much money, they don't really care. I really hope there is nothing in the rumors linking us with him.
 
why didn't he spend the dosh when he was at feyenoord then?

He was class then, but had a bad attitude problem (though that hasn't stopped fergie in the past).

“The lad has matured, but I remember us going to see him in a reserve team at Feyenoord way back.

“I think he got sent off that day in the first half – or he walked off, I can’t quite remember what happened.

“We left it alone at the time but he’s turned out to be a fantastic player.

“It wasn’t anything to do with any disciplinary problems – it was just that we didn’t see enough of him at the time and Arsenal were closer to the situation than we were.

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I'm sure I read a transcript of a Q&A a few years back where Fergie was asked a question about which player he'd sign from a rival. He answered RVP.

That was several years and injuries ago and I'm sure it's no longer relevant. If he is available on a free next year though, I wouldn't be surprised if we made an enquiry or two.
 
He's a top-class player who's available, so I'd be surprised if we didn't take a shot at him anyway.

He'd be an improvement over what we have in the forward line (with the exception of Rooney).
 
“I was really surprised when they came in for Robinho. I thought ‘What’s happening? Man City and £30m?’

“No they haven’t put an offer in for me and they don’t have to bother! I’m really curious if Manchester City have a plan because it won’t work by only buying the most expensive players."

“It’s about a team. If all the pieces don’t click then the system will fail."

“In principle, Man City could have success but there has to be a philosophy with a whole staff who have a plan for the next four or five years.”

“The manager wanted to use a certain amount but not the full £30m. He has a principle and if he believes a player is worth £10m then he’ll only pay that amount."

“It’s difficult in this overinflated market. He wanted a player but the selling club were asking far too much in his valuation. So he told them: ‘That’s the price or forget it."

“We have a small squad but achieving a mental hardness and avoiding injuries can make a difference.”

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Trionz is right. Fair enough leaving and all, but telling the fans that he's leaving?! The man's an absolute disgrace.
 
Trionz is right. Fair enough leaving and all, but telling the fans that he's leaving?! The man's an absolute disgrace.

Why? I think he has shown respect by telling them himself.

How better they find out? After months of rumours and whispers?

He has every right to leave. Arsenal are nowhere his best option for him anymore - by any measure.
 
Trionz is right. Fair enough leaving and all, but telling the fans that he's leaving?! The man's an absolute disgrace.

Why? I think he has shown respect by telling them himself.

How better they find out? After months of rumours and whispers?

He has every right to leave. Arsenal are nowhere his best option for him anymore - by any measure.

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It's not a loss on the scale of Fabregas, we'll get over it and he'll probably go down hill fast.
 
Why? I think he has shown respect by telling them himself.

How better they find out? After months of rumours and whispers?

He has every right to leave. Arsenal are nowhere his best option for him anymore - by any measure.

I don't feel respected. None of us do.

He doesn't have any right, as he still has one year in his contract.
We have the right to sell him, and hence the statement yesterday.
The guy is getting desperate as no one bar Juventus has made any form of bid for him.

They is trying to bring attention towards him, after failed Euros.
 
It's not a loss on the scale of Fabregas, we'll get over it and he'll probably go down hill fast.

They can't let it turn into a debacle like that though and sell him after the season has already started. If they're going to let him go, do it soon. Though unlike with Fabregas, it seems they've already bought their replacements.
 
They can't let it turn into a debacle like that though and sell him after the season has already started. If they're going to let him go, do it soon. Though unlike with Fabregas, it seems they've already bought their replacements.

That's what made me think they'd resigned themselves to letting him go. Otherwise why would they have spent the precious money!
 
Flog him, abroad if possible, if he doesn't want to play for us any more.
 
That's what made me think they'd resigned themselves to letting him go. Otherwise why would they have spent the precious money!

From the little I've seen of Giroud I'm not sure he's on RVP's level, or anywhere near it (yet, maybe). Podolski's alright, but he's not really a major improvement on what they have. Arguably the team will be worse, the squad slightly better.
 
Why? I think he has shown respect by telling them himself.

How better they find out? After months of rumours and whispers?

He has every right to leave. Arsenal are nowhere his best option for him anymore - by any measure.

....or they arent offering him the 220k a week he could get elsewhere?
If Arsenal offered to match any wages offer he got elsewhere I wonder if Arsenal would suddenly become his best option, he would then have to choose his future on football reason alone.

Im not knocking a player for wanting to get paid as much as possible.
But right now RVP can leave Arsenal based on footballing and financial reasons.

It's be interesting to see if he would still leave if Arse matched his best "new" wage offer
 
Arsenal investors reproach Stan Kroenke over Robin van Persie

• Usmanov and Moshiri have 'deep reservations' over club
• 'Where are safeguards to ensure this doesn't happen again'

Arsenal's second-biggest shareholders have written to owner Stan Kroenke expressing "deep reservations" about how the American is running the club after captain Robin van Persie refused to sign a new contract.

Alisher Usmanov and Farhad Moshiri say in the letter obtained on Thursday by the Associated Press that a "tight" financial regime is leading to manager Arsène Wenger "selling his best players and having to continue to find cheaper replacements".

They complain that "we are faced with losing our true marquee player" because we cannot "give confidence that we can win trophies," asking "where are the safeguards to ensure that this doesn't happen again and again?"

The pair own just under 30% of Arsenal through investment company Red & White but haven't been allowed by Kroenke to join the board.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/...estors-reproach-kroenke-van-persie?CMP=twt_gu
 
From the little I've seen of Giroud I'm not sure he's on RVP's level, or anywhere near it (yet, maybe). Podolski's alright, but he's not really a major improvement on what they have. Arguably the team will be worse, the squad slightly better.

Well, I was more focussed on the fact that they're buying two forwards, rather than the individual qualities of them. My guess was that they didn't want to be in a Fabregas situation when they were scrambling to pick up Arteta and Benayoun at the last minute. I could be wrong though!
 
Well, I was more focussed on the fact that they're buying two forwards, rather than the individual qualities of them. My guess was that they didn't want to be in a Fabregas situation when they were scrambling to pick up Arteta and Benayoun at the last minute. I could be wrong though!

Oh, I agree with you, I just mean that buying players at that end of the market (£10-15m) isn't a guarantee of success, so they might end up losing the one great player they had to bring in two decent players who aren't on that level. But as I said, I haven't seen enough of Giroud to really know whether there's a lot more to come from him.
 
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