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RVP, Higuian and Benzema? 3 incredible strikers to have but how will they keep them all happy with game time?

Ayeee, they only play one up top as well so really can't see it.

Although saying that, he could play in the hole behind Benzema, rotating with Ozil.
 
RvP is less important to us than Adebayor or Modric are to you. ... .
Keep thinking that if it comforts you .... despite it not being true.

What percentage of Arsenal's league goals did RVP score score for you last season?
 
Bit classless by RVP to release a statement like that..expected him to show a lot more respect to the people who've basically made him who he is: the fans, the club and most importantly, the manager.
 
Can't see him at Madrid. They're having a hard enough time balancing 3 world class strikers at the moment, with Higuain spending a lot of time on the bench for someone of his calibre.

I know Madrid aren't typically a club that only buy when they need to, but I can't see them going for this one personally. Higauin seems happy enough to fight for his place and I think he'll be allowed to do that rather than get pushed back into fourth (and surely test his commitment to staying).
 
RVP, Higuian and Benzema? 3 incredible strikers to have but how will they keep them all happy with game time?

I'm not sure Benzema is as good as the hype, I don't think he's a particularly great player, at least the kind of great striker Real would settle for and I think given the chance Real would happily sign RVP and give him some sort of priority in the team. RVP would be a huge improvement especially in Europe IMO which I think would appeal to the current Madrid team given they've just won La Liga and came up short in Europe.
 
Bit classless by RVP to release a statement like that..expected him to show a lot more respect to the people who've basically made him who he is: the fans, the club and most importantly, the manager.

I think he has shown enough patience with his team. I am not surprised. He has hardly won anything in his whole career. He just wants to win something before he is done.
 
I'm not sure Benzema is as good as the hype, I don't think he's a particularly great player, at least the kind of great striker Real would settle for and I think given the chance Real would happily sign RVP and give him some sort of priority in the team.

Watched a lot of La Liga this season, especially Madrid's games. Benzema was brilliant for them. Contributed well both on goals and overall play, and linked up really well with Ronaldo and Ozil up front as well.

Personally I think this season was a real coming of age one for Benzema. He managed to push Higuain out the first XI despite Higuain's very successful season beforehand, and I'd be surprised if Madrid started freezing him out for an older player like RVP when Benzema has been performing for them at such a level.
 
Sorry I edited my post a bit to include Europe, you raise a good point about his age but I don't think Real are the sort of club to give a feck about a players previous season or development when they can get some short-term glory, especially given how much better RVP is, at least IMO, Benzema is not a real world class striker, he hasn't done much in Europe or with France, I think they'd take RVP for a couple of years in a heartbeat!
 
Watched a lot of La Liga this season, especially Madrid's games. Benzema was brilliant for them. Contributed well both on goals and overall play, and linked up really well with Ronaldo and Ozil up front as well.

Personally I think this season was a real coming of age one for Benzema. He managed to push Higuain out the first XI despite Higuain's very successful season beforehand, and I'd be surprised if Madrid started freezing him out for an older player like RVP when Benzema has been performing for them at such a level.

Yeahh, that is completely right. He was utterly immense last year and a complete improvement on the year before where at times it looked like he wouldn't make it. I agree it was a coming of age season, everything about his play was so much more mature than previously, his attitude especially was faultless.

Like Van Persie if he went to Madrid, Benzema offers them much more than Higuain does in terms of build up and keeping possession. He can hold the ball up well too, bringing the likes of Ronaldo and Di Maria into play.
 
You have to take players performances in La Liga for Barca & Real with a pinch of salt considering the level of opposition* they face most weeks, Benzema had a good season in the league, but he was forgettable in Europe, which will be the big target for Mourinho and Madrid now.

*relative to the top two teams themselves
 
Benzema is better than RvP overall. Has much more to his game. His European record is also remarkable. 26 goals in 43 games. Potentially the best #9 in the world. RvP would find it hard to get into the team.

Barcelona is even more unlikely. Messi plays his position and that's basically it. Also it's a CB Tito wants, not a CF.

Bayern have just bought Mandzukic. Also unlikely.

Juventus or City or Chelsea. Don't see any other possibility.
 
Benzema is better than RvP overall. Has much more to his game. His European record is also remarkable. 26 goals in 43 games. Potentially the best #9 in the world. RvP would find it hard to get into the team.

Barcelona is even more unlikely. Messi plays his position and that's basically it. Also it's a CB Tito wants, not a CF.

Bayern have just bought Mandzukic. Also unlikely.

Juventus or City or Chelsea. Don't see any other possibility.

Inter Milan, if they can afford him. He would walk into their starting 11 and instantly improve them. Centre forward is the position they need to strengthen.
 
Moratti has been desperate to lower Inter's payroll, can't see them out-bidding City here.

Yeah I agree they are vast favourites, but Inter would be mad to not make an attempt. But yeahh, it does look like it will be City.

Knew this would happen, can't see him going anywhere but City unfortunately to take over the lone striker role from Dzeko, with Silva, Balotelli and Aguero in behind.

Juve or Bayern are the other realistic options but can't see either of those matching his wages. Plus Bayern have Gomez and have just signed Mandzukic, so surely that would prevent them making a big offer, they don't exactly need him.

Madrid obviously have Benzema and Higuain fighting it out for one starting place, Barca play Messi centrally and don't really use a striker, although I think he would be unreal there, they would need to alter their tactics to accomodate him.

AC Milan have Ibrahimovic, Cassano, Robinho and Pato, so they don't necessarily need him. Although Pato's injury seems to have stalled his progress so Van Persie up top with Zlatan, with Robino dropping behind could be amazing. Inter would be foolish to not make an attempt at signing him, with Milito one year older it's outrageous how much they relied on him for goals last year. Pazzini doesn't seem up to the task of replacing him so they really need to strengthen up top, although obviously after the disaster last year Van Persie probably wouldn't want to go there.

City for me seems the most likely option by some distance unfortunately. Anyone got any thoughts where he'll end up?

I had a look at some of the main teams and there hardly seems any realistic options besides City.

Both Milan clubs could do with him, but he wouldn't be a priority for AC, and like you say Inter would struggle to afford him.. plus, would he want to go to Inter? Maybe Sneijder could pursuade him I guess, and to be honest if he went there then Inter would be far better, but would still need massive investment. Lucio, Samuel, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Forlan, Milito are all over 30, so it certainly isn't a club on the rise.

If Barca changed their formation then he would be perfect for them, as he could play possession football as well as any striker in the world and would immediately fit in with their policy of fluidity and interchanging of positions, as he's equally comfortable coming deep or staying up top. Obviously that would mean Messi would need to drop back, which he doesn't seem to be willing to do.
 
Out of all the big European clubs, Chelsea need and probably can afford him.
 
RvP is less important to us than Adebayor or Modric are to you. So you'll finish below us for the 17th season in a row.

To be fair, Arsenal's dependence on Van Persie is shocking. It reminds me of what we were like at times with Van Nistelrooy when Scholes, Keane and Giggs were out of form/injured.

Don't know what to think. Spurs are pretty fecked without these two though, too.
 
Without RVP, Arsenal have to have serious doubts about making the top 4 next season. Because they're so reliant on him, I can see them keeping him for his last season for just that reason. It would mean Arsenal had another year to come up with a solution, and securing CL football for the next season is worth more than they're likely to be offered.
 
Think he'll either go to City or Italy personally. Can't see either of the Spanish two being interested, nor any of the other PL clubs.

He's a very good player, but I would be surprised if he repeats the kind of season he had this year. If he does sign for City I don't think I'll be panicking too much, I'm more concerned about Aguero over there and his potential for the years ahead. RVP is nearly 29 and has had a stormer of a season, but something in my gut says he wouldn't thrive at City.

Spot on
 
Is it more to do with Wenger's youth policy?? I mean if it is about money then fair enough but IF they didn't convince him that Arsenal will be doing all it can to compete stronger this year then it's a bit of a copout.

He's signed two strikers.. Not world class but I don't get why you'd leave for trophies at that age. It has to be money, which would suck for Arsenal fans.
 
Is it more to do with Wenger's youth policy?? I mean if it is about money then fair enough but IF they didn't convince him that Arsenal will be doing all it can to compete stronger this year then it's a bit of a copout.

He's signed two strikers.. Not world class but I don't get why you'd leave for trophies at that age. It has to be money, which would suck for Arsenal fans.

It's not for money. At this age, it's understandable that he wants to have a proper go at trophies.
No issue with that.
He wants to leave, go. We will deal with it.

But what's with the fecking announcement?
cnut.
 
It's not for money. At this age, it's understandable that he wants to have a proper go at trophies.
No issue with that.
He wants to leave, go. We will deal with it.

But what's with the fecking announcement?
cnut.

It's utterly absurd to leave a club in your peak for trophies. In decline or as a youngster yeah sure, I get it. But not at the peak of your career.

Wenger or the board or someone has said you're not going to get paid much and we won't be strengthening the club in the ways you see fit or something like that. He has every chance to win trophies if Arsenal strengthen in the right area's. It's not as though he's just been relegated or something.
 
I think if we make our interest known to him, i reckon he will give it a serious thought and might even come to us. After all, we have a far bigger chance to win trophies along with City. And he's not the type like Samir Nasri who's a money grabbing cnut

Most likely won't happen though
 
It's utterly absurd to leave a club in your peak for trophies. In decline or as a youngster yeah sure, I get it. But not at the peak of your career.

Wenger or the board or someone has said you're not going to get paid much and we won't be strengthening the club in the ways you see fit or something like that. He has every chance to win trophies if Arsenal strengthen in the right area's. It's not as though he's just been relegated or something.

Really? I think the opposite in regards to your first statement. Surely when you're a youngster or towards the end of the career you just want to play, so if you're at a club who is around the top and is giving you game time you stay. When you're in you're peak and you now want trophies, if your current club isn't challenging then that's the perfect time to leave.
 
Really? I think the opposite in regards to your first statement. Surely when you're a youngster or towards the end of the career you just want to play, so if you're at a club who is around the top and is giving you game time you stay. When you're in you're peak and you now want trophies, if your current club isn't challenging then that's the perfect time to leave.

Yeah I agree with this. If some youngster leaves 'to win trophies' instead of developing their game, I'd think that was foolish and quite short sighted. However in a case like RVP's, he must be thinking that if he doesn't leave now, he's not going to win any more major honours during his playing career.

If he postpones it another couple of years in all likelihood he'll have left it too late to spark a bidding war between the big guns, and even if he negotiated a move to one of those clubs at that stage, he'd face a bigger challenge pushing himself into the starting XI in his early 30s than he would at 28/29 when he's playing some of his best football.

I can understand the frustration he must feel if each time he feels the Arsenal squad are making progress they announce that they are open to letting players go and then often end up replacing such players with mediocre additions such as Gervinho or Mertesacker. At some stage you would think that Wenger would say, right I'm going to keep what I've got AND I'm going to bring in just one or two players that could really strengthen this squad and win us trophies. However it's clear that RVP doesn't feel that time is now and so he's not prepared to sit and wait on the assumption that this transformation happens in the next 2-4 years when he'd still be spearheading the attack. That I think is fair enough, but releasing this statement which will massively decrease his value, I'm not sure why he's done that.
 
Yeah the timing of the statement is odd but then we all knew nasri wasn't gonna stay and they still got a lot for him. At the end of the day arsenal will have a value that they think he'a worth based on how much he can bring to their season and if there are a few clubs sniffing around that price will increase. I suppose you could argue that if they force him to stay he won't perform etc but I think having only had 1/2 top seasons and being towards the end I his peak he can't telly afford a season of not being class if he wants to go to one of the tip teams not a season where he doesn't play.
 
Watched a lot of La Liga this season, especially Madrid's games. Benzema was brilliant for them. Contributed well both on goals and overall play, and linked up really well with Ronaldo and Ozil up front as well.

Personally I think this season was a real coming of age one for Benzema. He managed to push Higuain out the first XI despite Higuain's very successful season beforehand, and I'd be surprised if Madrid started freezing him out for an older player like RVP when Benzema has been performing for them at such a level.

Indeed.

I watched a lot of Benz this year due to my love for Ronaldo and he was immense, a complete striker. He has always seemed a bit of a confidence player which is why I think he struggled at the Euros but I would rather United sign him than RVP.
 
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