It's not a surprise. It's clear that he's simply after a big wage. It must be hard as an Arsenal fan to listen to all of the patronising shite that he's coming out with. All of the different vision and disagreement stuff, while saying he loves the club, is a load of nonsense. If he really loved the club then he wouldn't let one or two little things stop him from staying there.
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Surely he wants trophies.
I dont believe it's about money.
I dont believe it's about money.
Maybe he does want a big wage, but where do you see as a better opportunity to win trophies, players who sign for City now will be swayed by the money still, but the opportunity for trophies will be important
They're already signing better players than they were once able
Castles claimed that van Persie had provisionally agreed terms with City back in March.
The similarities with the Rooney situation are clear. Except in RVPs case the concerns are more legitimate, or more immediate at least. It doesn't have to be about money. He wants to win things and Arsenal aren't getting any closer.
I dont see him going to City tho. Abroad. Maybe ill be proved wrong.
I dont see him going to City tho. Abroad. Maybe ill be proved wrong.
If he really wanted trophies, he'd have made noise about leaving a few seasons ago.It's about the wages
But a few seasons ago people were giving wenger the benefit of the doubt, waiting to see if he could build a competitive team. Maybe he could have made this decision last summer. But this sense of Arsenal capitulation is relatively new, isn't it?
Maybe its just City winning the league that makes it feel that way.
Maybe its just City winning the league that makes it feel that way.
He may also actually want to win something before he retires/ whist he's in his peak. I don't get what's so wrong with that. It doesn't always have to be about more money. If you're given an opportunity to play for a team who can genuinely challenge then why not move. Yes arsenal have given him a lot of time but he'a also given them 2 seasons where he's pretty much carried them. The two years of champions league football, which they arguably wouldn't have got without him are probably worth more than the money they paid him when he was injured. It's very easy to call players mercenaries. Most people in any profession would take an opportunity to be part of an organisation at the top of their field at some point, and leaving to do so shouldn't always mean they're just interested in cash.
Yes there are ways you can do it, some are worse than others. I think Hargreaves comments about our medical staff which were shown to be wrong anyway were distasteful given the money we spent trying to get him back and paying him whilst he was out. Nasri's comments have been distasteful too. But if we're too accept rvp's story that arsenal weren't looking to progress in the way he thought necessary then again I don't see the issue. He hasn't got long left at the top so he should look to achieve what he can. If he goes too another club who are unlikely to be a major challenger for their league then you can have doubts but for now it seems pretty logical and fair.
Yes there are ways you can do it, some are worse than others. I think Hargreaves comments about our medical staff which were shown to be wrong anyway were distasteful given the money we spent trying to get him back and paying him whilst he was out. Nasri's comments have been distasteful too. But if we're too accept rvp's story that arsenal weren't looking to progress in the way he thought necessary then again I don't see the issue. He hasn't got long left at the top so he should look to achieve what he can. If he goes too another club who are unlikely to be a major challenger for their league then you can have doubts but for now it seems pretty logical and fair.
Few seasons ago they had a much better team (well there was Fabregas at least and all the other City boys). Plus there was no City to compete with. I'm sure he thought that team would eventually win something.
Just take last season for instance.Tbh in hindsight it's easy for me to criticize him
You think he'll be off to Anzi or Shanghai then? I don't.
I don't think it's just about wages. He clearly wants to plaly for a team that he thinks can win the big competitions.
I know, I was exaggerating a bit.
Keep seeing Arsenal fans saying: 'let's just sign 3 or 4 world class players to convince him to stay'. Transfers really don't work like that, not that many players of guaranteed class available and those that are would cost silly money.
For me, their ridiculously tight restrictions on wages and transfer fees are what is holding them back. If Fabregas, Van Persie and Nasri could have stayed together for longer and flaws elsewhere in the team gradually solved, they'd have a real chance at the title. As it is they're becoming a bit of a laughing stock - a feeder club really.
For me, their ridiculously tight restrictions on wages and transfer fees are what is holding them back. If Fabregas, Van Persie and Nasri could have stayed together for longer and flaws elsewhere in the team gradually solved, they'd have a real chance at the title. As it is they're becoming a bit of a laughing stock - a feeder club really.
its about both trophies and wages.
why is it difficult to accept professional footballers want to play at the highest level and get the best wages possible?
Personally I think it would be a shame if he left Arsenal for one of the sugar daddy clubs...but that's the reality we must accept these days.
why is it difficult to accept professional footballers want to play at the highest level and get the best wages possible?
Personally I think it would be a shame if he left Arsenal for one of the sugar daddy clubs...but that's the reality we must accept these days.
It's not silly.
We shouldn't have trusted him and had we bought a reliable striker who played for us each season, we would have won something.
Especially 08-09league title would have been ours.
He has been our one top player for just one season and that was due to some fecked up circumstances last season.
Knew this would happen, can't see him going anywhere but City unfortunately to take over the lone striker role from Dzeko, with Silva, Balotelli and Aguero in behind.
Juve or Bayern are the other realistic options but can't see either of those matching his wages. Plus Bayern have Gomez and have just signed Mandzukic, so surely that would prevent them making a big offer, they don't exactly need him.
Madrid obviously have Benzema and Higuain fighting it out for one starting place, Barca play Messi centrally and don't really use a striker, although I think he would be unreal there, they would need to alter their tactics to accomodate him.
AC Milan have Ibrahimovic, Cassano, Robinho and Pato, so they don't necessarily need him. Although Pato's injury seems to have stalled his progress so Van Persie up top with Zlatan, with Robino dropping behind could be amazing. Inter would be foolish to not make an attempt at signing him, with Milito one year older it's outrageous how much they relied on him for goals last year. Pazzini doesn't seem up to the task of replacing him so they really need to strengthen up top, although obviously after the disaster last year Van Persie probably wouldn't want to go there.
City for me seems the most likely option by some distance unfortunately. Anyone got any thoughts where he'll end up?
Juve or Bayern are the other realistic options but can't see either of those matching his wages. Plus Bayern have Gomez and have just signed Mandzukic, so surely that would prevent them making a big offer, they don't exactly need him.
Madrid obviously have Benzema and Higuain fighting it out for one starting place, Barca play Messi centrally and don't really use a striker, although I think he would be unreal there, they would need to alter their tactics to accomodate him.
AC Milan have Ibrahimovic, Cassano, Robinho and Pato, so they don't necessarily need him. Although Pato's injury seems to have stalled his progress so Van Persie up top with Zlatan, with Robino dropping behind could be amazing. Inter would be foolish to not make an attempt at signing him, with Milito one year older it's outrageous how much they relied on him for goals last year. Pazzini doesn't seem up to the task of replacing him so they really need to strengthen up top, although obviously after the disaster last year Van Persie probably wouldn't want to go there.
City for me seems the most likely option by some distance unfortunately. Anyone got any thoughts where he'll end up?
I always thought Van Persie was destined to be a Real Madrid player at some point in his career, but they don't exactly need him what with already having Ronaldo, Benzema and Higuain.
That's that settled then, thanks for playing devils advocate...
If you love the club, but have decided to leave for whatever reason, why don't you at least help them out and get more money for them? With Van Persie announcing to the world that he's not signing any deal, any club can now strongarm Arsenal into selling him for way less than they could've got if he kept his mouth shut.
At least Ronaldo signed a long-term deal, when he, along with United, knew all along that he'd leave well before the contract expired. And he had the decency to lie to the public on numerous occasions with statements like "I Stay".
At least Ronaldo signed a long-term deal, when he, along with United, knew all along that he'd leave well before the contract expired. And he had the decency to lie to the public on numerous occasions with statements like "I Stay".
Think he'll either go to City or Italy personally. Can't see either of the Spanish two being interested, nor any of the other PL clubs.
He's a very good player, but I would be surprised if he repeats the kind of season he had this year. If he does sign for City I don't think I'll be panicking too much, I'm more concerned about Aguero over there and his potential for the years ahead. RVP is nearly 29 and has had a stormer of a season, but something in my gut says he wouldn't thrive at City.
The support structure he had at Arsenal was great, with much of the team being based on him after Nasri and Fabregas's departures. He seemed to thrive on that new responsibility. I think at City without being the only one that they look to, without being the single spearhead of their attack week in week out, I wouldn't be surprised if he struggled to fully establish his role in that jam packed attacking squad that City have over there.
As for his decision to leave, it's a shame certainly, but it seems to signal that Arsenal are going to continue their frugal (and sensible) approach in the transfer market. It's a tricky one for them, because whilst that's clearly a very level headed and sustainable approach, they do need to do something about their continued trend of developing and then losing world class players if they want to be winning trophies again.
He's a very good player, but I would be surprised if he repeats the kind of season he had this year. If he does sign for City I don't think I'll be panicking too much, I'm more concerned about Aguero over there and his potential for the years ahead. RVP is nearly 29 and has had a stormer of a season, but something in my gut says he wouldn't thrive at City.
The support structure he had at Arsenal was great, with much of the team being based on him after Nasri and Fabregas's departures. He seemed to thrive on that new responsibility. I think at City without being the only one that they look to, without being the single spearhead of their attack week in week out, I wouldn't be surprised if he struggled to fully establish his role in that jam packed attacking squad that City have over there.
As for his decision to leave, it's a shame certainly, but it seems to signal that Arsenal are going to continue their frugal (and sensible) approach in the transfer market. It's a tricky one for them, because whilst that's clearly a very level headed and sustainable approach, they do need to do something about their continued trend of developing and then losing world class players if they want to be winning trophies again.
Well that depends on what arsenal are doing and if they're willing too enter in to that sort of agreement.
Gotta feel for Arsenal really, he's basically kicked them in the nuts all over......rumoured for between anywhere from £20-25m when other clubs thought he might be 'willing' to talk with Arsenal, but now he's just out and said feck it, in a transfer window, his value essentially plummets to what Juve had rejected. It's not like it's January either. He's fecked them.
Sorry for disappointing you Fort, how can I live with myself now ?
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Load of shite.
Berbatov + £5m.
Seriously though, don't want him. It's more important to give Welbeck and Hernandez the chance than bring him in. We have got enough players with bad injury records as it is. RVP plus our luck and he wouldn't manage 15 games a season
Seriously though, don't want him. It's more important to give Welbeck and Hernandez the chance than bring him in. We have got enough players with bad injury records as it is. RVP plus our luck and he wouldn't manage 15 games a season
If we got past the over inflated value that Arsenal will set, if we we got past the silly wages he will demand and got past the issue that he prefers us to the other teams interested, where would he actually fit? 99.9999% sure this won't happen.
I'd heard whispers of a swap deal with Higuain.
Exactly, if you're gonna feck off for the money then just feck off. Don't give us a basinful of shite.
So disrespectful to the club and especially Wenger the man who has stuck by him through all his problems and played a huge part in him becoming the player he is today to go behind his back and release this. To my knowledge nobody at Arsenal knew he was about to announce this the way he did and the only reason is to lower his price and probably put up his wages as well.
We have moved on from losing better players than him so not going to cry about him leaving. Just hope it is done quickly and we can move on and hopefully strengthen the squad.
We have moved on from losing better players than him so not going to cry about him leaving. Just hope it is done quickly and we can move on and hopefully strengthen the squad.
We don't need him at all and you have to look past the bargain fee - we'd have to pay him way over £100k a week so even if we get him for £20m it'll still be an outlay of another £6m to £7m a year so another £30m over a five-year deal at least.
Was obvious that he is not gonna sign a new contract when they signed both Giroud and Podolski. Of course all the United fans might be getting Deja Vu of Wayne Rooney situation. Also I think Walcott will also be off.
I think I can't blame him, think he would have looked at Nasti who after getting a substantial pay rise also won a major trophy.
I think I can't blame him, think he would have looked at Nasti who after getting a substantial pay rise also won a major trophy.
That's going to be very difficult if you lose the player who, far more than anyone else, kept you in the top 4 last season.
With a year left on his contract, if Arsenal enter any talks with another club for his sale it will be clear he's not going to sign a new deal. Him keeping quiet wouldn't really have helped.
I'd have him, but not for the prices being banded about at his age. Those prices are for City. Mind you it would be nice if we bid just so that City bid more, a bit like the Scousers tried to do with us for Jones, but their attempt failed!
Why does it matter what City pay when they have unlimited money?
I'd like to think if he's going cheap that United have an offer tabled. Just for the record of a big player moving clubs that we're in there for him and at least having a go.
But to the detriment of Welbeck and Hernandez development time he'd start at an instant above or beside Rooney. Would be an excellent player. Not sure how he'd go with the less angled inside play making wing play but feck he'd be a good signing however you look at it.
Can understand the apprehension from the fans though. I myself wouldnt wan't it to take away from Welbeck JH's development time.
But to the detriment of Welbeck and Hernandez development time he'd start at an instant above or beside Rooney. Would be an excellent player. Not sure how he'd go with the less angled inside play making wing play but feck he'd be a good signing however you look at it.
Can understand the apprehension from the fans though. I myself wouldnt wan't it to take away from Welbeck JH's development time.
Anything to annoy them really!
RvP is less important to us than Adebayor or Modric are to you. So you'll finish below us for the 17th season in a row.
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