I'm convinced he has made a bad error in judgement.
Robin van Persie
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In his time there (nearly 10 years now?) he's been largely injured or not that good. It's only last season has he turned into a world beater. I'd be quite pissed if I were a gooner, with RVP that is.
Sorry, where have I commented on Wilshire and Walcott leaving?
I don't need to watch football in general to look at the league table of the country that the team I support plays in and notice that Man City finished first and Arsenal finished third.
And my comment was that Man City is currently a step up from Arsenal. I think you're getting your posters mixed up there and, even more strangely, getting angry on the internet over very little.
The thing about him leaving though is where is he going to go that will let him play through the middle? City have aguero and potentially tevez there. Barca obviously have messi and real, benzema. Suppose he could go to Italy or Germany I don't know about the striker situations at their top clubs but I know Bayern have Gomez so it'd be weird if they took him out.
Chelsea could play him but I don't think there giving up on Torres just yet. So really at most big clubs he's likely going to have to play a wide position and whilst he can play there I would have thought he'd have been relishing being the main man through the middle. But then I guess he's probably willing to sacrifice that for a medal.
Chelsea could play him but I don't think there giving up on Torres just yet. So really at most big clubs he's likely going to have to play a wide position and whilst he can play there I would have thought he'd have been relishing being the main man through the middle. But then I guess he's probably willing to sacrifice that for a medal.
Can't think of one logically sensible reason as to why he should issue such a statement and be utterly disrespectful to the club while stating he 'loves' us.
Is it certain that he'll go to City? Juventus seem like a more likely destination to be honest.
Perhaps because of Wenger's statement earlier today? Sorry, but I feel that Wenger/Arsenal have taken the fans for fools before now with strident statements only for the players in question to leave shortly afterwards.
This is hardly surprising. My money is on him going to Juve. I think he not only wants a league but also to be the main man, and I'd assume he'd be the main man at Juventus. At City he wouldn't, At Barcelona he wouldn't, at Madrid he wouldn't and should United be a serious contender for his signature, he again wouldn't be our main man either. Juventus is just logical.
When you cannot spend big money on transfers and your budget is restricted like at Arsenal, you need to look at every penny. Van Persie would probably fetch £20m on the back of an excellent season right now, and that could easily be used to buy a replacement (probably much worse but you're not going to find a new RVP that easily) and another player.
They'll still finish in top 4. They were 3rd last season and realistically only Chelsea can finish higher than them next season as Spurs are obviously certain to finish lower because they're Spurs who never finish ahead of Arsenal and it'll take much longer for Liverpool to be back up there.
They'll still finish in top 4. They were 3rd last season and realistically only Chelsea can finish higher than them next season as Spurs are obviously certain to finish lower because they're Spurs who never finish ahead of Arsenal and it'll take much longer for Liverpool to be back up there.
Well, he almost certainly knew of RVP's intentions & yet Wenger's statement released earlier today made it look like nothing had changed...despite the fact that - as RVP mentioned in his statement - Wenger knew Van Persie wanted to leave.
1) They are both strikers who are at their best in his position
2) With those players Arsenal still wont win anything. They need strengthening in other areas and dont have money to do so. Its more than likely that they were bought in the belief RVP would be leaving so Arsenal need replacements
I asked what should Wenger/Arsenal say when asked about Robin?
It's almost irrelevant. Besides, Arsene's not the only manager who (arguably) plays fast n' loose with the truth sometimes. So I'm not really being 'anti-Arsenal', in truth.
Surely if it's gotten this far then he should either be the one to say rvp isn't signing and their plan for the future or give a non committed response until rvp had made his decision public. It's like nasri last year when he said they can't keep selling their best players and then sold nasri. Some of the timings or comments made at times just don't seem well considered.
My point was really that when this happens fans just seem to shrug it off all too easily, 'well if he wants to win trophies, good luck to him' kind of attitude.
He's given them 1 full season in the last 8 hasn't he?
With all his "love for Arsenal" he can't be signing for City can he 
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?With all his "love for Arsenal" he can't be signing for City can he
Bob say no.
He's been brilliant for them in most of that time far better than most of his team mates and its not his fault that hes out a lot. All he can do is make it count when hes fit which he has done.
Arsenal cant compete for trophies, RVP is too good when fit to settle for that
Not playing devil's advocate here, but I really don't understand why players say that, about needing to win trophies. Is it not their effort that contributes to a trophy winning season?
I made this point earlier in the season, but what would have happened if Ronaldo and Rooney and other players decided to move to the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, and abroad earlier on, instead of buckling down and winning us a treble, and making us one of the best sides in Europe again?
It's a disgusting attitude in most cases.
Yeah, RVP wasnt trying hard enough last season and thats why Arsenal didnt win trophies
In fact Arsenal should be glad to get rid of him if thats his work ethic
In fact Arsenal should be glad to get rid of him if thats his work ethic
the big winners in all this will be Spurs and possibly Liverpool
they will push Arsenal hard for the Champions League place with no Van Persie
this summer really is crucial for Arsenal
Podolski is an alright player but I expect him to have the same impact as a Gervinho or a Walcott
Giroud I haven't seen much of admittedly
they desperately need to bring in some quality or they will be 7th or 8th I think
definately a case of invest or regress for Arsenal
they will push Arsenal hard for the Champions League place with no Van Persie
this summer really is crucial for Arsenal
Podolski is an alright player but I expect him to have the same impact as a Gervinho or a Walcott
Giroud I haven't seen much of admittedly
they desperately need to bring in some quality or they will be 7th or 8th I think
definately a case of invest or regress for Arsenal
I said most players. My point still stands. How many seasons has he been world class for the gooners?
Most where he's been fit a decent amount of games
Took him being top scorer for some people to begrudgingly admit he's a fantastic striker though
Took him being top scorer for some people to begrudgingly admit he's a fantastic striker though
I suppose it's a sensible statement if you're trying to force the club you 'love' to let you go to a team that are, in the club's eyes at least, one of their rivals for the title.
His ability hasn't really been his problem, rather his being made of glass.
Same old Arsenal.
Happens every year, I'd be livid if I supported them. Still though, Wenger always finds a way to steady the ship and I reckon they'll come 3rd or 4th again.
Happens every year, I'd be livid if I supported them. Still though, Wenger always finds a way to steady the ship and I reckon they'll come 3rd or 4th again.
He's almost never been fit! Incredibly talented, but till this season his name always came with the footnote, "if only he managed to stay fit"...
I don't know the details of his decision, so I just made a general point above.
Even more silly to suggest that hes a big part of the blame for them not winning anything. And even more silly for Arsenal to rely on him as their one top player
Not suggesting that.
Will be a shame to see him leave the Arsenal. Not sure how anyone can blame him though
Van Persie is a very good player. But Arsenal have sold better players than him.
Arsenal's model has its flaws but the City / Chelsea model is the real problem.
Arsenal's model has its flaws but the City / Chelsea model is the real problem.
What a twat. Had one injury free season and he treats the club that stayed loyal to him through all his injury woes-one that lasted almost a decade- like shite.
On the other hand I'm not really surprised considering he usually comes across as an arrogant tosser, only reason it wasn't that obvious was because he had nothing to be arrogant about until last season.
Considering his contract situation, Arsene should cash in on him for anything over 20 million. He's almost 30 and theres no guarantee he'll have a season as good as this again. For evidence see Torres who was arguably as good during the 07/08 season.
On the other hand I'm not really surprised considering he usually comes across as an arrogant tosser, only reason it wasn't that obvious was because he had nothing to be arrogant about until last season.
Considering his contract situation, Arsene should cash in on him for anything over 20 million. He's almost 30 and theres no guarantee he'll have a season as good as this again. For evidence see Torres who was arguably as good during the 07/08 season.
Even removing the plastics Chelsea/City/PSG etc, you've got the talent hoovers that are Barca and Madrid. Money talks and it hard to be noble and loyal when your already playing a game for a living and the other team is offering double.
It's funny how everyone talks about loyalty to the club when a player ditches them, but it's never spoken of the other way around.
It's funny how everyone talks about loyalty to the club when a player ditches them, but it's never spoken of the other way around.
It's not about the money.
Why would he want to leave the former Emirates Cup holders if not for money?
Why is that relevant in this case? Arsenal stuck with him all through, even though he was a perma crock for all but one season.
Juve, City, PSG (longshot)
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