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If Wenger sells RVP to City, he realises he will play second fiddle to Aguero and Balotelli and the abudance of strikers would leave Mancini having an abudance of attacking players -- not good.

If he sells to United, Wenger may realise he could make the difference for them. He would be selling a player to the only manager who has got the better out of him at the top level domestically -- and knows his 'weakness'. So logically, sell to City and RVP may not benefit as much as he would at another club.
 
Moriarty said:
Probably my most favourite Arsenal player was chippy. I well remember him ripping us to shreds at Wembley in 1979.
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We caned you for 80 minutes and then did our best to throw it all away until Liam saved us.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Nah, I'm not having that. You had extremely high hopes for Nasri. Even when it was clear that he had no intention of staying at Arsenal he was probably the only player in your team showing a bit of bottle and commitment in the closing weeks of the season.

Clichy, Toure and Adebayor not so much but they've all done their bit in getting City where they are now. Which is above you in the league and making CL qualification that bit harder than it was before. In fact, you could argue that Arsenal have done more than any other single club in helping make them the champions.

There can be no logical footballing reason for knowingly making them even stronger. Certainly no logical reason for choosing them over us.
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No, that would be us and our magnificent bottle job at the end of last season.
 
Guy Incognito said:
If Wenger sells RVP to City, he realises he will play second fiddle to Aguero and Balotelli and the abudance of strikers would leave Mancini having an abudance of attacking players -- not good.

If he sells to United, Wenger may realise he could make the difference for them. He would be selling a player to the only manager who has got the better out of him at the top level domestically -- and knows his 'weakness'. So logically, sell to City and RVP may not benefit as much as he would at another club.
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There's been quite a few different managers doing that over the course of these last 6 years or so.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
There's been quite a few different managers doing that over the course of these last 6 years or so.
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Yet many of those managers have been sacked for numeous reasons: from playing crappy football to failing to get their clubs into the Champions League.

If you exclude the oligarch's money and the investment from City, it has only been Ferguson who has finished above Wenger.
 
peterstorey said:
Stop being silly pal, Spurs haven't beaten you in the league for 10 years.
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Haven't you said stats don't tell you everything?

To be honest to Jake I also felt more confident before our game at Emirates than before WHL's one. Rightly so, as the result against Spurs told half the story, we scrapped the first goal and then it was all about two moments of brilliance from Young and it was all over. Whereas in the game against your lot I think we were comfortably the better side and I didn't worry one bit even when Van Persie equalised, knowing we would score at least once more if we had to.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Yet many of those managers have been sacked for numeous reasons: from playing crappy football to failing to get their clubs into the Champions League.

If you exclude the oligarch's money and the investment from City, it has only been Ferguson who has finished above Wenger.
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If you exclude the other clubs that finished ahead of Arsenal then yes, United are the only team to do so.

It's not as though United, Chelsea and City are the only team to finish ahead of them in the league anyway. Liverpool have done it three times since Arsenal last won a trophy.
 
Tomuś said:
Haven't you said stats don't tell you everything?
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I mean crap Opta stats like assists and key passes. Wins are pretty absolute. In our last 6 league games at our place we've won 3, drawn 1 and lost 2. Despite you being champions on 4 occasions. Spurs have probably lost 6.
 
peterstorey said:
I mean crap Opta stats like assists and key passes. Wins are pretty absolute. In our last 6 league games at our place we've won 3, drawn 1 and lost 2. Despite you being champions on 4 occasions. Spurs have probably lost 6.
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They definitely didn't all 6. Remember some 0-0 draw or two. Anyway you have a point. It's a dangerous thing looking at the past in such cases though.
 
RvP for 20-25 looks fantastic value when you see that Fletcher is going for 14m.
 
peterstorey said:
Kolo's soldout has been for about 3 years. Nasri funded Arteta (who was much better than him last season) and Cazorla (who will be much better than him this season). Clichy is still a flake - we wanted shot of him. And you're forgetting the £30M we got for Adebayor.
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I'd agree with this.
 
peterstorey said:
Kolo's soldout has been for about 3 years. Nasri funded Arteta (who was much better than him last season) and Cazorla (who will be much better than him this season). Clichy is still a flake - we wanted shot of him. And you're forgetting the £30M we got for Adebayor.
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If you still had Clichy, Nasri and Adebayor you'd be a far far better team then you are now.
 
A flaky fullback, an AM who's had 6 good months in 4 years and the laziest CF on the planet? I'll take the £60M ta.
 
wr8_utd said:
RvP for 20-25 looks fantastic value when you see that Fletcher is going for 14m.
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Fletcher would have a good few more years and/or a resale value. And would be on 25% of the wages.

Value is more than just the transfer fees.

25m + 10m a year (x4 at the very least) + other fees = ~70m over 4 years

17.5m a year for the privilege of having an injury prone, 29 year old striker who has just had his best season in his career isnt exactly value.


I dont care about how we spend the money we have.. and if we can add Van Persie, then it'll be great.. but he certainly wont be cheap or a bargain.
 
A better fullback who doesn't have brainfarts, Arteta and and Cazorla, and a CF who scored 30 league goals last season. Plus the Ox as a bonus.
 
peterstorey said:
A better fullback who doesn't have brainfarts, Arteta and and Cazorla, and a CF who scored 30 league goals last season. Plus the Ox as a bonus.
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we may be able to loan you Angelo Henriquez or Macheda for a year if you behave. :D
 
peterstorey said:
A flaky fullback, an AM who's had 6 good months in 4 years and the laziest CF on the planet? I'll take the £60M ta.
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Clichy is by far and away better then anything you can offer up at left back. And Abebayor might be lazy, but he's a bloody good striker.

If you were as interested in winning trophies as you are in balancing your spread sheets, your club might have actually won something in the past 7 years. Instead, you just keep selling your best players, replacing them...then selling them again a few years later, and the cycle begins again, and again and again.
 
Clichy had improved and was one of Man City's better players. City got a bargain for 7m.
 
Yep, I had him down to be a disaster at City. I didnt rate him at all at Arse. But he improved massively. One of the best full backs in the league last season
 
Have to say, I'd probably take Giroud and Carzorla over Nasri and Adebayor... even with the fact that the later two are acustomed to Premiership Football.

Just my personal preference though...
 
KM said:
Clichy had improved and was one of Man City's better players. City got a bargain for 7m.
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He was OK, he still fecked up under pressure and got sent off at Chelsea in true meltdown style.
 
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