Robin van Persie

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Wasn't overly convinced RvP was a big game player after watching him fail terribly at the Euros. Checked out some of his stats (I can't really count any other competitions as Arsenal haven't really got very far in any of them lately). They're decent, mainly beefed up from his great form last year.

RvP Scoring Record in the last 3 Seasons in the League:

Chelsea: 265 mins - 3 goals
United: 379 mins - 3 goals
City: 450 mins - 1 goal
Tottenham: 401 mins - 4 goals
Liverpool: 285 mins - 3 goals

RvP Scoring Record in the last 3 Seasons in the Champions League:

Group Goals: 627 mins - 5 goals
Last 16 Onwards: 326 mins - 2 goals
 
I think van Persie's age is an interesting factor. Not in the sense that he's too old to be spending loadsamoney on, but in that he fits the right profile for what we need right now - ready to play from the start, consistent in a way Hernandez and Welbeck aren't yet, but not likely to be around so long that he'll prevent either of those two from establishing themselves.
 
Theon said:
:lol: What the feck? You are having a mental breakdown Drainy, 'a technical study with statistical analysis' for feck sake. All I asked was how many games you think he will start.
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My tongue was firmly in cheek. I gave you my answer to that question and you didn't accept it.

If Welbeck is fit he'll make 30+ appearances in all comps next year. He'll be number one choice as a substitute for the out and out striker position (if he's on the bench) and can play across the attacking midfield 3- he'll get quite a of game time IMO.

Sir Alex isn't going to screw Welbeck over now, unless he doesn't sort out his contract.
 
barca have xavi, iniesta, busquet and yet they sign fabregas last summer. they also have messi, villa, pedro and then sign sanchez as well. it is not that they desperately need to sign these players, but they did to make them stronger(even if they end up not retaining the la liga and CL, but that is not the point here). the point here is they is always room for improvement, no matter how good you already are.

i am still believing that we need a central midfielder more than any other position just like most of us here, but it seems that fergei is no more interested in getting a proper CM these days. and signing a top striker, even thought we are already fine in this department at this moment, i mean it if it means that we are adding a world class striker into our team, then why not?

welbeck will has less time on the pitch for sure, but he will still play. the same goes for hernandez. berba is definitely not in fergei's plan anymore. so that leaves us with rooney, welbeck, hernandez and if we do get him, van persie as our strikers. that is a very scary quartet for any team to face.
 
SirAF said:
I assume he's been in New York for the IPO.
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That may well be, but I'm sure they have phones/fax machines etc in New York. Don't get me wrong, that wasn't a pop at Gill, it was more a pop at the title of the paper.
 
Summit said:
That may well be, but I'm sure they have phones/fax machines etc in New York. Don't get me wrong, that wasn't a pop at Gill, it was more a pop at the title of the paper.
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Aye, agreed.

Actually just read the article, says he was in London drumming up interest for the IPO.
 
“Of course he’s a player that I admire,” said Rooney.

“He’s a fantastic player, he’s been amazing for Arsenal over many years.

“Last season was probably his best season of all, he scored a lot of goals.

“If he does come here he would be a great addition to the squad.”

Asked if he and van Persie could play together, Rooney said: “I’d like to think so - but you’d have to ask the manager about that.

“There’s a lot of forwards here already with myself, [Danny] Welbeck, Chicharito and [Dimitar] Berba, who’s still here.

“So there’s a lot of forwards fighting for a place.”
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Sorry deleted it now. Forgot to refresh before posting as I was a little sidetracked flashing kernels on my phone :lol:
 
Summit said:
Gill steps in. What has he been doing so far then?
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a. I assume he's been in New York for the IPO. (Courtesy of SirAF)
b. Been on holiday; summer is the ideal time for him as there's no club business during the summer.
c. Looking for the key to the 'war-chest'.
d. Doing the laundry.
e. boue.
f. Gill was in London doing a 'roadshow' to promote the IPO. (Baby Faced Assassin)

Still can't see this coming out in our favour. RvP at United? Seriously??
 
Antisocial said:
a. I assume he's been in New York for the IPO. (Courtesy of SirAF)
b. Been on holiday; summer is the ideal time for him as there's no club business during the summer.
c. Looking for the key to the 'war-chest'.
d. Doing the laundry.
e. boue.

Still can't see this coming out in our favour. RvP at United? Seriously??
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Gill was in London doing a 'roadshow' to promote the IPO.
 
I can't see how we can possibly not close this signing. Too many failed attempts, we need to save face.

He will be a class addition. feck that Lucas kid, this guy is the finished article. Incredible player.
 
peterstorey said:
You got blackmailed by Rooney, we're gonna screw RvP's feet to the floor.
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Blackmailed to pay him the going rate for a top footballer?

A player Rooney produces a massive economic output for the club. Fair fecks he demanded a good cut of the pie.
 
Summit said:
Only rumours sop far, nothing concrete.
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Fergusons comment make me pretty convinced that he knows something - he would never put pressure on Arsenal if he wasn't sure Van Persie was interested
 
So no news since SAF's interview?
I hope we get him tbh. Our front 4/3 will be amazing. Add to that Kagawa behind them :drool:
 
peterstorey said:
You got blackmailed by Rooney, we're gonna screw RvP's feet to the floor.
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Isn't every contract re-negotiation a form of blackmail? Players would be on minimum wage if there was no chance they were ever gonna move elsewhere.

Anyway, you're probably right about Arsenal keeping hold of RvP. It's always proven so difficult in the past to entice the best players away from the Emirates, impossible at times, and I see no reason why this transfer in particular would be any different. It's the trophies you win, you see, who wants to give that up just to come play for a big club, eh?
 
peterstorey said:
You got blackmailed by Rooney, we're gonna screw RvP's feet to the floor.
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:lol:

This assumption that Rooney was suddenly offered the world - not Fergie's style. He was visited by a posse of the support who let him know he was loved, Fergie had a word and Colleen told him to stop pissing around and sign the deal.

RVP? you'll need to nail more than his feet to the floor - tired of losers.
 
FM experts predict Van Persie future



http://www.teamtalk.com/arsenal/7973328/FM-experts-predict-Van-Persie-future



Our friends at Football Manager have run experiments to see how Robin van Persie might fare at Arsenal, Chelsea, Juve or the Manchester clubs.
Robin van Persie has been hogging the back pages since announcing he did not wish to extend his contract at Arsenal, with Chelsea, Juventus and both Manchester clubs among the clubs linked with a move for the unsettled Dutchman. The Gunners remain determined to keep him at Emirates Stadium, however, and, with that in mind, the experts at Football Manager have run five experiments on the new Football Manager 13 game to determine how Van Persie might fare at each of his possible destinations next season.

RVP at Arsenal

Arsenal finish fourth; Van Persie scores 10 goals in 22 games.
Eliminated in first knockout round of Champions League.
No trophies won.
Van Persie finishes as club's top scorer and third top scorer in Premier League.
Van Persie achieves average rating of 7.16 across season.
He forms good partnership with Lukas Podolski, who scores six goals in 29 games.
Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere provide many of the assists, but Van Persie misses three months of season with torn calf muscle.
RVP at Man City

City finish second to United despite racking up 90 points, as United finish on 94.
Van Persie makes 46 appearances (36 starts), scoring 22 goals.
His strike partner Sergio Aguero gets 15 goals in 43 games (42 starts).
City win the FA Cup but lose to Barca in the first knockout stage of the Champions League.
Van Persie finishes as the club's top scorer with 15 league goals.
Arsenal finish fifth without Van Persie and don't win any trophies.
RVP at Juventus

Juventus finish 4th in Serie A and win trophies.
Van Persie makes 33 appearances, scoring 15 goals.
He achieves an average rating of 7.43 across the season.
He is named Serie A Player of the Year, Serie A Foreign Player of the Year and Serie A Fan's Player of the Year.
Van Persie suffers no injury and scores eight goals in 16 Serie A appearances.
RVP at Chelsea

N.b We took the decision to remove Torres from Chelsea to give RVP a fair chance of being the number 1 striker.
Chelsea finish second to United in the Premier League but win the FA Cup and Europa League after exiting the Champions League in the group stages.
Van Persie plays 56 games (all starts), scoring 25 goals and claiming 16 assists, eight MoM awards, and achieving a 7.58 average rating.
Van Persie forms an excellent partnership with Eden Hazard, who gets 24 assists as well as 19 goals for himself.
Van Persie scores 13 goals in 34 Premier League appearances.
He finishes as runner-up in the Players' Player of the Year vote and makes the Team of the Year.
Arsenal finish fifth.
RVP at Man Utd

Man United win the Premier League and Champions League, and Van Persie is instrumental in their success, making more appearances than anyone else (46) and finishing as their top scorer with 24 goals in the League.
He achieves an average rating of 7.59 across the season.
Van Persie finishes as the second top scorer in the Premier League and is runner-up in the Footballer of the Year vote.
For more information and to purchase Football Manager, please visit www.footballmanager.co.uk
 
devilish said:
FM experts predict Van Persie future



http://www.teamtalk.com/arsenal/7973328/FM-experts-predict-Van-Persie-future



Our friends at Football Manager have run experiments to see how Robin van Persie might fare at Arsenal, Chelsea, Juve or the Manchester clubs.
Robin van Persie has been hogging the back pages since announcing he did not wish to extend his contract at Arsenal, with Chelsea, Juventus and both Manchester clubs among the clubs linked with a move for the unsettled Dutchman. The Gunners remain determined to keep him at Emirates Stadium, however, and, with that in mind, the experts at Football Manager have run five experiments on the new Football Manager 13 game to determine how Van Persie might fare at each of his possible destinations next season.

RVP at Arsenal

Arsenal finish fourth; Van Persie scores 10 goals in 22 games.
Eliminated in first knockout round of Champions League.
No trophies won.
Van Persie finishes as club's top scorer and third top scorer in Premier League.
Van Persie achieves average rating of 7.16 across season.
He forms good partnership with Lukas Podolski, who scores six goals in 29 games.
Aaron Ramsey and Jack Wilshere provide many of the assists, but Van Persie misses three months of season with torn calf muscle.
RVP at Man City

City finish second to United despite racking up 90 points, as United finish on 94.
Van Persie makes 46 appearances (36 starts), scoring 22 goals.
His strike partner Sergio Aguero gets 15 goals in 43 games (42 starts).
City win the FA Cup but lose to Barca in the first knockout stage of the Champions League.
Van Persie finishes as the club's top scorer with 15 league goals.
Arsenal finish fifth without Van Persie and don't win any trophies.
RVP at Juventus

Juventus finish 4th in Serie A and win trophies.
Van Persie makes 33 appearances, scoring 15 goals.
He achieves an average rating of 7.43 across the season.
He is named Serie A Player of the Year, Serie A Foreign Player of the Year and Serie A Fan's Player of the Year.
Van Persie suffers no injury and scores eight goals in 16 Serie A appearances.
RVP at Chelsea

N.b We took the decision to remove Torres from Chelsea to give RVP a fair chance of being the number 1 striker.
Chelsea finish second to United in the Premier League but win the FA Cup and Europa League after exiting the Champions League in the group stages.
Van Persie plays 56 games (all starts), scoring 25 goals and claiming 16 assists, eight MoM awards, and achieving a 7.58 average rating.
Van Persie forms an excellent partnership with Eden Hazard, who gets 24 assists as well as 19 goals for himself.
Van Persie scores 13 goals in 34 Premier League appearances.
He finishes as runner-up in the Players' Player of the Year vote and makes the Team of the Year.
Arsenal finish fifth.
RVP at Man Utd

Man United win the Premier League and Champions League, and Van Persie is instrumental in their success, making more appearances than anyone else (46) and finishing as their top scorer with 24 goals in the League.
He achieves an average rating of 7.59 across the season.
Van Persie finishes as the second top scorer in the Premier League and is runner-up in the Footballer of the Year vote.
For more information and to purchase Football Manager, please visit www.footballmanager.co.uk
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gazza said:
i think van persie's age is an interesting factor. Not in the sense that he's too old to be spending loadsamoney on, but in that he fits the right profile for what we need right now - ready to play from the start, consistent in a way hernandez and welbeck aren't yet, but not likely to be around so long that he'll prevent either of those two from establishing themselves.
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