Robin van Persie

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You can't say that with any degree of certainty; he is 29 years old and has a poor injury record and a game that has some reliance on pace. He could be a Sheringham or he could be a Kluivert, it's a gamble. Personally I can't see RVP operating at this level when he is 32, can you? He will also have zero resale value which has to be taken into account when forking out this kind of cash.

RvP has 100 goals left in his boots if he can stay as healthy as he did this season.
 
I dont know where RVP will fit in. What I do know that our team is struggling to score goals. Welbeck is talented but he's not a natural scorer. Hernandez is a natural scorer but he's easily caught offside while Rooney has his ups and downs. RVP will be a statement for all our strikers. Deliver or you will lose your spot. He's one of the very few strikers who make Rooney worry of losing his first team place.

Gotta agree with the above, RVP reminds me of RVN in the sense he is likely to score a goal at anytime and more likely to score in the big games.
 
Yup.

In the 2009-10 season Dider Drogba was 32. He led Chelsea to the double, winning the Golden Boot (despite pissing off the the ACN half-way through the season) and scoring the winning goal in the FA Cup Final.

Who do you think is more reliant on youthful attributes like pace, power and athleticism to be an effective striker. Didier Drogba or Robin Van Persie?

I see your point but Drogba is the exception not the rule; the guy is one of the best athletes I've ever seen in football so it's unsurprising he lasted so long. He was also a wonderful technical player so let's not imagine he was inferior to RVP in that respect. You have to admit that a good number of strikers fall off pretty dramatically in their thirties. We could each produce a list of players that performed well into their thirties and players who deteriorated dramatically in their thirties, the point is that it's a gamble to assume he is still going to be playing at this level in his early thirties. Plus my point about resale value has to be taken into account.
 
If our luck/record with Fortune, Saha, Hargreaves, Anderson, Owen, Rio etc is anything to go by then it does look a risky gamble to sign a talented but injury prone player for a big sum and just hope that somehow things change.

I'm not just worried about RVP's injury record but also our record with such players. I can't really remember the last time we were able to positively turn around an injury-prone players career. May be Giggsy to an extent but we didn't really sign him.
 
I think we would do well to get 150 games out of him let alone 100 goals.

Even if you get 150 games out of him you're likely to get around 70+ goals...
 
Not a very classy act from Wenger - not as if it was expected. A player who gave so many years to the club and served as a captain, they should show more respect and let him have his will granted to join United.
 
Not a very classy act from Wenger - not as if it was expected. A player who gave so many years to the club and served as a captain, they should show more respect and let him have his will granted to join United.

Sure you'd be saying exactly the same if a United player wanted to do the same.
 
Gotta agree with the above, RVP reminds me of RVN in the sense he is likely to score a goal at anytime and more likely to score in the big games.

It's RVP's record in the big games that has me willing this transfer through more than anything else tbh. His record again both Liverpool & Chelsea is very good whereas Rooney's against the former at least is pretty poor
 
RVP is worth 20 million even with 11 months left on his contract. I think we should just cough up to be honest.
 
RVP is worth 20 million even with 11 months left on his contract. I think we should just cough up to be honest.

If he is 20m (with contingent fees included) then definately worth a gamble. He would give us one of the best strike forces in the whole of Europe. The only question is whether he would stay fit enough to play most of the matches.

Having said that, I dont think I'd be used to him in a Manchester United shirt. He was always such an arrogant cock with the gooners.
 
If he is 20m (with contingent fees included) then definately worth a gamble. He would give us one of the best strike forces in the whole of Europe. The only question is whether he would stay fit enough to play most of the matches.

Having said that, I dont think I'd be used to him in a Manchester United shirt. He was always such an arrogant cock with the gooners.

Something tells me you'd get used to the arrogance of a player when playing for a rival pretty quickly once he started banging them in...

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If he is 20m (with contingent fees included) then definately worth a gamble. He would give us one of the best strike forces in the whole of Europe. The only question is whether he would stay fit enough to play most of the matches.

Having said that, I dont think I'd be used to him in a Manchester United shirt. He was always such an arrogant cock with the gooners.

most top players are
 
i would much rather us sign RVP over any midfielder ive seen linked with us

I'd much rather we sign any midfielder we've been linked with rather than RVP. Hell, I'd much rather we sign literally any midfielder.
 
I'd much rather we sign any midfielder we've been linked with rather than RVP. Hell, I'd much rather we sign literally any midfielder.

we've signed two in powell and kagawa.

both play sneijder/nasri role which everybody was crying out for
 
Ah, no, you mistake my point, I'm not part of the sign a midfielder or we burn down Carrington brigade, I just really, really don't want us to sign Van Persie.
 
I think SAF is doing the right thing. Refuse to pay big bucks for a player with one year left on his contract. It's more or less impossible for Arsenal to keep him. If another club comes in with money then so be it.

Nonsense.

'So be it' means we keep a lot of money in the bank where it does us no good, and we don't get a top player on the pitch where he could help us win trophies.
 
I think the stalling might be due to us haggling over how much they get up front and how much is based on appearances, etc. I reckon we'll get him in the end.
 
I think the stalling might be due to us haggling over how much they get up front and how much is based on appearances, etc. I reckon we'll get him in the end.

I think they are stalling in the hope that a club that is not Manchester United comes in for him and a club that RVP is interested in.

As I said before, I can't see Arsenal throwing away 18-20m to keep him for just 5 months before he'll be signing a pre-FREE-contract with whomever he pleases.
 
I think the stalling might be due to us haggling over how much they get up front and how much is based on appearances, etc. I reckon we'll get him in the end.

I hope so, that was my feeling as well. With his injury record an appearance based add on should be a given. Arsenal probably don't agree though, and want the whole amount up front, which is not that surprising given RVP's injury record! :D
 
I think they are stalling in the hope that a club that is not Manchester United comes in for him and a club that RVP is interested in.

As I said before, I can't see Arsenal throwing away 18-20m to keep him for just 5 months before he'll be signing a pre-FREE-contract with whomever he pleases.

I don't think they are that arsed tbh. They have seen enough of their players leave and go on to play for rivals, to be considered hardened to such a prospect.

I agree with Badunk, we probably want to offer so much up front and so much based on appearances. Arsenal probably want the lot up front, they want us to take the risk they are not prepared to.
 
Ah, no, you mistake my point, I'm not part of the sign a midfielder or we burn down Carrington brigade, I just really, really don't want us to sign Van Persie.

So we won't be seeing you at the weekly wine and cheese tasting meeting tonight then?
 
Maybe we're trying to add in success based clauses, and since Arsenal are our main competition for trophies they don't think it'll be worth while for them, as they'll win them all.
 
Maybe we're trying to add in success based clauses, and since Arsenal are our main competition for trophies they don't think it'll be worth while for them, as they'll win them all.

:lol: :lol:

All the residents Arse fans just creamed themselves. :D
 
Listen I'd be excited if I we signed RVP; he is a great player. But with all of these things you have to look at opportunity cost. It's a big gamble for a player of his age and injury record is all I'm saying.

The point is - there is no opportunity cost.

Fergie is dead set against buying a midfielder, and what other top players are out there that we could more productively spend the money on?

Our defence is fine, and if Fergie decided to shore up LB, it wouldn't require a lot of cash. Since midfield is ruled out, that leaves wingers and forwards. Despite our flirtation with Lucas, we're quite strong on the wings already, so our forward line, almost by default, is the area where money could be spent. RvP is the best forward out there.
 
--------RVP--Hernandez
Nani------------------Welbeck
------Carrick---Rooney
Evra---Vidic---Rio------Valencia
------------De Gea

Veryyyyy attacking.
 
Never mind - if we wait until RVP signs a new 10-year contract, we can get him for peanuts in 2021.
 
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